do you smoke? not cigarettes...hint hint

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:45 pm

smoke so much dope i'm counting it in metric

i should try and quite regular cigs again. only on six a day though (hand-rolled), so it's not too bad. like yourself jonny5, everyone in my building smokes, so it's kinda tough

goodluck with it dude

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:02 pm

One important benefit that nicotine potentially brings is its consummation ritual. Smokers tend to relax when they smoke, helping the socialization process and passing information that non-smokers that are away from the smoking group might have troubles catching up with. Unfortunately, that's pretty much the only rational benefit there is for it. "Looking cool" and stuff doesn't count, that's retarded.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:14 pm

it's not really a social situation for me, as there are currently only the two of us in the building now, we don't smoke at the same time. maybe i'm trying to look cool at home?

however... now i'm rollin', there is a sort of ritualistic thing to the preparation side of it. heard similar comments from other drug users...

i don't know what it's like in other countries, but here in UK you can't smoke indoors really anymore. so a smoking break means getting to leave the building for ten minutes, and go outside out the back. a bit dingy, but we get a wicked view of gloucester cathedral if you fancy having a smoke out on the 3rd floor's roof

it's literally about 30 yards away. smokers i think get preferencial treatment in the workplace here. sad, but true

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:29 pm

same deal here......if you smoke, you go for smokes....if you dont smoke, get back to work.....lolz

i smoke more out of habit now....if im busy i forget about it.....its a time filler more than anything....

if i can get past the habit, i will be clear.....cuz i dont enjoy smoking like i used to....and most of my friends dont smoke anyway

never understood the 'cool' thing about smoking.....i think that is something non-smokers came up with.....

i dont feel cool smoking....i feel like an ass for spending my money on something that is slowly killing me

ah well....no time like the present to quit....this weekend is it

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:11 am

and I never get depressed after MDMA use,

-How many did you eat?
-Did you have a shitty job?

These were my main factors.

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:15 am

Guys, MDMA pure OR cut into a nasty little Pac Man pill full of other shit leads to the worlds most depressing two day comedowns.

It's so fucking depressing, it actually outweighs the few hours the night before when you thought you were walking on air.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:26 am

Skykid wrote: It's so fucking depressing, it actually outweighs the few hours the night before when you thought you were walking on air.

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Now *you* are smoking something. It's not that bad, it's just noticeable.

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:38 am

GaijinPunch wrote:
Skykid wrote: It's so fucking depressing, it actually outweighs the few hours the night before when you thought you were walking on air.
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Now *you* are smoking something. It's not that bad, it's just noticeable.

I wish it was just noticeable! It's not for me anyways. It's like the corners of my mouth can't escape gravity, pointing south all day. Lack of sleep, fuzzy eyeballs, can't get anything done. Crap sleep and a general inability to get happy about anything.

I really don't like it, but I'm sure everyone reacts differently.

captpain · Post by **captpain** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:43 am

jonny5 wrote:MDMA.....god.....its alright as far as chems go but it leads to VERY long nights sitting up talking about nonsense in my experience.....

and lots of 'wanna do one more rail?' talk.....not to mention the 'wheres the chix at' comments.....lolz

Never done it, but maybe you're getting 'dirty' pills. Oftentimes, X will have meth or other additives which help to make the dealer money.

edit: unless you're talking about straight up powdered molly

Ruldra · Post by **Ruldra** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:46 am

Ozymandiaz1260 wrote:So many people have said no but haven't posted in this thread. I'd really like to know what people who either don't do or are strait up against drugs think about the subject. Nobody will get mad or offended, it's an open forum... what do people who don't do drugs think about this?

Fine, here's my input...

My father used to be a teacher at a police academy, and his specialty was narcotics. He studied the subject for a long time and even wrote books about it. Ever since I was a kid, he was always showing me the different types of drugs, its effects on the body and real-life examples of how much they can destroy a person's life. He also made clear that alcohol and tobacco are nothing but legalized drugs, and they are just as bad for you as any other drug. AND explained how easily friends can make you try them, so you just have to draw a line and say no.

All that information left a very strong impression in me, and I just decided that I wouldn't ever touch these stuff.

Add that to the fact that I have a very frail health. It's very easy for me to get sick, so I can't really indulge on drugs even if I wanted to.

themachinist · Post by **themachinist** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:03 am

I was a huge pothead two to three years ago, lighting something up every damn day with my friends. I think there are good times to be had, what with all the social culture surrounding the drug, the paraphanelia, the ensuing shenanigans, etc. For the most part stoners are completely harmless. That's what I liked about it. Just a bunch of young dudes (and not so often girls) chilling at home, hitting that bong, ordering a pizza, watching a movie, screwing around in a park or the outdoors, turning on some beats for a silly improvised rap session, gaming or chatting up something humorous.
My smoking days are pretty much over though. I don't care for it much anymore but I'd do it every once in a while, sure.
I decided not to cross the line when people started doing coke, though.

I also used to smoke cigarettes a lot, like a pack a day, but since have cut it down a lot. I just can't resist a cigarette when out drinking. They have a happy marriage.

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:17 am

I can't really stand people who smoke weed because thats all they talk about. I can't imagine how many times i've been sitting in a room full of weed smokers who haven't got any talking about the delights of what they got last month, how good it was, how crap it was, Amsterdam holidays and what not.

It wouldn't be so bad if I had a bad memory, but I don't I have a good memory and all these folks listen to it like its the first time they have heard this conversation.

I smoke, but cigerettes. I don't have to call around to see who's got any, I get the same quality, I call them by two names (fags, Ciggies) only and I certainly don't believe that any experience in my life is heightened that bit more by sticking a rollup in my gob.

Not to mention everyone apart from one person I know who smokes it lives pay check to pay check, are almost always broke. Most snort cocaine on the odd occasion. I must live a really boring life

themachinist · Post by **themachinist** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:03 am

I think the same could be said about a group of hobbyists or like-minded fans who get together, don'cha think

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kernow · Post by **kernow** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:31 am

My life is just as boring now I don't smoke, but with more booze.

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themachinist · Post by **themachinist** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:36 am

kernow wrote:My life is just as boring now I don't smoke, but with more booze.

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Me too, your statement about booze. I boozed so hard this summer; it was like a 3-times-a-week type thing. How I survived is an unsolved mystery. They should've given me one of them member punch-cards at the liquor store.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:38 am

I can't really stand people who smoke weed because thats all they talk about.

I feel the same way about gamers.

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:50 am

themachinist wrote:I think the same could be said about a group of hobbyists or like-minded fans who get together, don'cha think .

Smoking weed on a constant basis to me is like life therapy. You don't like the idea that there isn't much to look forward to so you look forward to having something others want instead. My brother smokes it no end and has absolutely no ambitions in life whatsoever. Maybe i'm basing all my thoughts on one persons inability to enjoy anything without weed but thats the way I see it.

Breaking it down, he earns almost as much as me, say $200 less a month. I have a much newer car, I save 50% of my salary, I have tons of clothes, electronics and am looking forward to great holidays. He has accumulated absolutely zilch except an addiction to weed, gambling and the odd bit of cocaine. He now has a daughter and I don't know what life she has to look forward to.

Am I wrong in saying that smoking weed has taken over his life? That all his friends (not one exception really) all have the same lifestyle as his. I've noticed him and his friends have a small attention span to anything.

Considering what my brother has achieved, I would as a friend or a forum member advise not to take up weed as a hobby (if you want to call it that). Do you really want to be subconsciously addicted to something you can't get on tap in good quality all of the time? Thats my problem with it. If I could buy it in the shops and get 100% quality every day of the week then I might take it up myself. But until then, I can't be bothered to get addicted to something that requires being at the right place at the right time, calling mobiles night and day and ending up talking about something I'm really not that interested to talk about half my life.

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:59 am

neorichieb1971 wrote:Am I wrong in saying that smoking weed has taken over his life?

Yeah, because you probably have no clue on what would his life be without weed. Because it could actually be very similar, with weed being a consequence, and not a cause.

Your current argument can be used to say "don't drive cars, they deliver you from point A to point B". What is missing is driver's will to go into point B, which is to blame here instead of a car. If he has weed, gambling, and cocaine on his table all at the same time, I'd rather think that he likes to escape reality in some way, and probably needs some help.

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:04 am

I'm 100% clean. Wish I could say I've never even smelt smoke, but my mother's a heavy smoker, and I don't really know what the deal with second-hand smoke is these days.

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:06 am

i think you are judging weed basewd on your experiences with a few people....

not everybody who smokes weed is consumed with constant thoughts of smoking weed, nor does everybody who smokes weed do other drugs like cocaine

obviously some people go beyond moderation and let smoking become the end all be all of their day.....but for many others its the equivalent of having a few beers after work.....

its different for everybody.....and it doesnt necessarily leave you in the poor house...

put it this way...sadly i make like 27g's CAD a year BEFORE taxes......i smoke weed(like a bowl in a pipe) daily.....yet i pay my bills, rent and food and still have enough to blow thousands on PCB's

if anything i would saY i have an unhealthy addiction to arcade games....im not at work going oh man i want to smoke weed....im thinking oh man i want to go home and get back on futari

i think any drug use (alcohol included) means differetn things to diferent people....some peoples personalitys just leave them open to dependence on outside influences to fullfil them...be it games, drugs what have you

whatever makes you happy

but as in all things in life, moderation is key

themachinist · Post by **themachinist** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:40 am

Yes, what jonny5 said. Sorry to hear about your brother neorichieb.

kernow · Post by **kernow** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:42 am

I'm free from herb, but I still find life as utterly pointless as ever, I can't get excited or motivated about doing anything, I could quite easily sit in a subway rotting each day like a homeless person.

awesome eh?

I just can't find it in me to give a shit about anything. I've had countless discussions with people about why the fuck we bother, and no-one can answer, everyone seems to busy having children or getting married. I swear if there was a switch on the back of my head saying 'OFF' I would have pressed it years ago. I'm not depressed as such, well maybe a little, I just can't see the point of anything. Only buying posessions makes me enjoy life.

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:15 pm

kernow wrote:I'm free from herb, but I still find life as utterly pointless as ever, I can't get excited or motivated about doing anything, I could quite easily sit in a subway rotting each day like a homeless person.

awesome eh?

I just can't find it in me to give a shit about anything. I've had countless discussions with people about why the fuck we bother, and no-one can answer, everyone seems to busy having children or getting married. I swear if there was a switch on the back of my head saying 'OFF' I would have pressed it years ago. I'm not depressed as such, well maybe a little, I just can't see the point of anything. Only buying posessions makes me enjoy life.

i definitely see what you are saying...id say im much the same way

kernow · Post by **kernow** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:29 pm

its not a fun way to be when others seem so content, but hey ho, what can you do exactly. I only get pleasure from dropping loads of money on stupid stuff, if theres no point to being here - you might as well make your time here as enjoyable as you can.

that to me does not equate to having loads of horrible little kids that moan and cry and whine until they are teenagers, then hate the sight of you, lie to you every minute of the day etc then bugger off when they are old enough, or getting married only to be miserable for the next 25 yrs. It equates to blowing your money on loads of stupid things and sitting around happy that you own everything you want and that its great and stuff.

Honestly we are such a small speck of dust in the universe theres no point to anything, you might as well party every day like a homeless bum, hence why I said I quite envy them really, they don't give a shit about anything, no bills, no commitments etc, they care about nothing, except getting wasted, awesome. Might as well make your small 70-odd years on this planet as enjoyable as possible really, I don't want to work my ass off like I've seen others do, just to pay bills etc.

God I'm so apathetic.

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:57 pm

kernow, i think you and i would get along famously...very much the same outlook

kernow · Post by **kernow** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:07 pm

Nice! I'll have to pop over to a meet sometime for some beer, moaning, and shmups.

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:08 pm

pop over the atlantic....im in canada dude

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:20 pm

Skykid wrote:
GaijinPunch wrote:
Skykid wrote: It's so fucking depressing, it actually outweighs the few hours the night before when you thought you were walking on air.
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Now *you* are smoking something. It's not that bad, it's just noticeable.
I wish it was just noticeable! It's not for me anyways. It's like the corners of my mouth can't escape gravity, pointing south all day. Lack of sleep, fuzzy eyeballs, can't get anything done. Crap sleep and a general inability to get happy about anything.

I really don't like it, but I'm sure everyone reacts differently.

I feel its not that bad. I guess it depends on what otehr crap they pile in the pill. My freind swears by his pure MDMA powder. Refuses to take pills now.

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:46 pm

As for my brother, I feel that if I had the collateral like say $10,000,000 to offer him to quit, he would feel some what alienated. Too much would be missing because it would leave a gaping hole the size of the moon in his life.

I would say its as much a social thing, probably more than anything else.

Do you smoke alone or with other hobbyists? This is purely for my own curiosity.

TriggerHeartExelica · Post by **TriggerHeartExelica** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:58 pm

jonny5 wrote:MDMA.....god.....its alright as far as chems go but it leads to VERY long nights sitting up talking about nonsense in my experience.....

and lots of 'wanna do one more rail?' talk.....not to mention the 'wheres the chix at' comments.....lolz

See I always got shit on when rolling. The last time I ended up passing out and someone decided to hold a lighter to my butt :

shmups.system11.org

do you smoke? not cigarettes...hint hint

do you smoke weed?