Ketsui X and Daioujou Black Label X - Ports for Xbox 360

moonblood · Post by **moonblood** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:03 pm

Well as long as they don't fuck things up in-game I'm happy

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:30 pm

it gives the game pedo power.... be quiet.

zap · Post by **zap** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:22 pm

hirounder wrote:Original dolls from DOJDDP got redrawn for 360 port aswell. Leinyan's on missing page.

Which magazine and issue is that from?

hirounder · Post by **hirounder** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:11 pm

zap wrote:Which magazine and issue is that from?

FamitsuXbox360 monthly magazine, issue 11/2008.

And here's missing Leinyan

...got scans from Cave thread at 2ch btw.

adversity1 · Post by **adversity1** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:05 am

So they don't even bother to show phone girl's ship in a 360 mag featurette? WTF?

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:08 am

adversity1 wrote:So they don't even bother to show phone girl's ship in a 360 mag featurette? WTF?

I'm sure this is some kind of double entendre.

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:08 am

adversity1 wrote:So they don't even bother to show phone girl's ship in a 360 mag featurette? WTF?

Is there actually a new ship? I thought there was just a fourth doll

Remember, the game originally had 2 ships (A and B) and three girls (Shota, Lolia and Barely Legal).

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:03 am

its just a new doll (not a new ship), her laser seems to get wider as it goes along.. strange.. not sure what the shot type looks like.

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:21 am

As it goes along? What do you mean?

joeboto · Post by **joeboto** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:20 pm

the new artwork has deathsmiles style. me loves it.

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:03 pm

moozooh wrote:As it goes along? What do you mean?

meaning its narrow where it comes out of teh ship and gets wider the further it reaches up the screen.

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:23 pm

Oh, you mean it spreads out… That might be very useful for beginners who mainly stay at the bottom of the screen. Not sure about chaining, though I guess it can be used to its advantage as well, having less distance to cover in order to connect enemy groups.

I wonder what are the downsides to this. Reduced power, perhaps?

emphatic · Post by **emphatic** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:08 pm

moozooh wrote:I wonder what are the downsides to this. Reduced power, perhaps?

Hitting stuff you don't want to shoot at the top of the screen that you don't aim at or in proximity to what you really aim at?

Emph

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:12 pm

Yeah, that's the olny thing that comes to mind so far. Supposedly it can still be circumvented by various means, depending on the laser's divergence and the normal shot's properties.

manaka · Post by **manaka** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:55 pm

PV up at famitsu

http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/1218492_1407.html

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:06 pm

They could as well show something new, unless the video was supposed to showcase at least the scale filters (which would be pretty moot with flash video, anyway). :\

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:01 pm

I don't think they could possibly make the screen any smaller for yoko. Time to get myself a rotatable monitor, I think.

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:12 pm

manaka wrote:PV up at famitsu

http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/1218492_1407.html

haha "dude, there is something moving in the middle of your screensaver"

henry dark · Post by **henry dark** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:57 pm

hirounder wrote:Original dolls from DOJDDP got redrawn for 360 port aswell. Leinyan's on missing page.

More game art I'd be embarrassed to show people! Great.

moonblood · Post by **moonblood** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:19 pm

Doj BL is now up for preorder at Play-asia

jp · Post by jp » Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:10 am

moonblood wrote:Doj BL is now up for preorder at Play-asia

I don't really like the 'Pachi games but...

... done!

Gotta support the shmup movement on teh 360.

Though, I haven't played too much of DOJ, so, does the video on Famitsu's site look weird to anyone else? Like, the ship movement, bullet movement, etc?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:21 am

Though, I haven't played too much of DOJ, so, does the video on Famitsu's site look weird to anyone else?

It's the frame rate. Either it's the actual video, or the encoding job. If it's the actual game this will be the worst port ever.

Anyone else think the new art is absolute garbage?

jp · Post by jp » Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:13 am

GaijinPunch wrote:

Though, I haven't played too much of DOJ, so, does the video on Famitsu's site look weird to anyone else?
It's the frame rate. Either it's the actual video, or the encoding job. If it's the actual game this will be the worst port ever.

Really? Because when I looked again it looks like the animation is just shit.

brokenhalo · Post by **brokenhalo** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:01 am

jp wrote:
GaijinPunch wrote:

Though, I haven't played too much of DOJ, so, does the video on Famitsu's site look weird to anyone else?
It's the frame rate. Either it's the actual video, or the encoding job. If it's the actual game this will be the worst port ever.

Really? Because when I looked again it looks like the animation is just shit.

it's the framerate and the compression. that said the graphics look a bit sharper than the ps2 port. might just be the full screen being shrunk down to a postage stamp messing with my eyes though.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:53 am

Anyone else think the new art is absolute garbage?

yes

still, I haven't seen any in game shots using that art so maybe it's just gonna be in the manual ect?

Erinu · Post by **Erinu** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:05 am

Yessssss... I sure hope they don't have shitty art in my danmaku shooting game - story, don't fail me now!

Anyway it looks good. I will probably get it even though I'm not big on games that punish you for the tiniest mistake in scoring.

manaka · Post by **manaka** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:38 am

Strider77 wrote:
Anyone else think the new art is absolute garbage?
yes

still, I haven't seen any in game shots using that art so maybe it's just gonna be in the manual ect?

Anything new you'll probably only see in the 'X Mode' of the game. The ports would be expected to be perfect ports with no alterations except the wallpaper for non-Tate and the anti-aliasing filters.

Etrian · Post by **Etrian** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:06 am

Excuse me but.. what are the differences between Black Label and regular DOJ? Don't tell me it's harder.

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:11 am

It's finer tuned for scoring. Chain counter is raised to 5 digits (counterstops at 9999 in White). Extends are transferred to the second loop if you reach it. Hitbox sizes of A and B ships are swapped.

Also, what I've gathered from others' comments is that rank has a smoother curve with easier minimum and harder maximum, making it scale to one's skills better.

In other words, it's a better game for basically any purpose.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:26 am

anti-aliasing filters

I really hope they let you turn that shit off... this will kill the port for me.

I plan on running this through my emotia via VGA 480p then to my tate'd SONY PVM.... this way it's back in true low res and tate'd.