Ketsui X and Daioujou Black Label X - Ports for Xbox 360

honorless · Post by **honorless** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:20 pm

They'd originally planned on putting in a high-resolution mode, with graphics that had been redrawn at 4x original size. (translation of interview)

Not happening though.

PROMETHEUS · Post by **PROMETHEUS** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:01 am

Which is too bad really, DOJ in particular could use a major re-lifting. It looks very aged I think.

Anyway, I'm glad they're keeping beginners and accessibility in mind, in my opinion that's the main thing that keeps most people from enjoying those games.

brokenhalo · Post by **brokenhalo** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:05 am

that's awesome that they are adding an arrange mode. mushi arrange is about the only thing cave i have managed to 1cc.

Rai82 · Post by **Rai82** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:30 am

怒首領蜂大往生ブラックレーベル EXTRA

So the final product name is Dodonpachi Daioujou Black Label Extra or DDPBLEX. And looks like the Dec. 25th 2008 release date is pretty much confirmed by Famitsu.

縦画面モード、スコアランキング、リプレイといった機能を搭載

I don't know what it means by vertical screen mode...I thought it was vertical gameplay already? Plus there's Score Ranking and replays to create and download on Live.

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:25 am

PROMETHEUS wrote:Which is too bad really, DOJ in particular could use a major re-lifting. It looks very aged I think.

I actually think it's very well-detailed, which keeps it from feeling aged. In fact I largely thought the same of the original DDP, but DOJ refines it further with its fluid animation (<3 hyper shots).

Rai82 wrote:I don't know what it means by vertical screen mode...

Tate.

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 10:44 am

December 25th? Isn't that a strange date to release a game, even in Japan?

Geezer · Post by **Geezer** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 10:49 am

No, as I understand it Christmas day is just another working day in Japan (with presents).

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 10:51 am

What a cruel and heartless race

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:40 am

PROMETHEUS wrote:Anyway, I'm glad they're keeping beginners and accessibility in mind, in my opinion that's the main thing that keeps most people from enjoying those games.

Yeah, with DOJ and Ketsui this makes a lot of sense. Even if it's just an auto-bomb training mode, I'll probably use it.

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:42 am

Where do I buy a Jap X360? (Being based in London).

Who is the bright businessperson selling them?
GaijinPunch?

Etrian · Post by **Etrian** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:13 pm

DEL wrote:Where do I buy a Jap X360? (Being based in London).

Who is the bright businessperson selling them?
GaijinPunch?

Yep, although.. shipping to me was actually CHEAPER through play-asia.. so you should check play-asia's total cost as well.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:01 am

Etrian wrote:
Yep, although.. shipping to me was actually CHEAPER through play-asia.. so you should check play-asia's total cost as well.

Please don't mislead. They don't ship EMS. If you want to roll the dice and ship it SAL/boat, I can do that for a trusted forum member. I don't recommend it though.

DEL:
You're looking pretty buff these days.
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 60&start=0

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:05 am

GaijinPunch wrote:
Etrian wrote:
Yep, although.. shipping to me was actually CHEAPER through play-asia.. so you should check play-asia's total cost as well.
Please don't mislead. They don't ship EMS. If you want to roll the dice and ship it SAL/boat, I can do that for a trusted forum member. I don't recommend it though.

I think he's referring to their UPS and FedEx services. I got my X360 shipped from Hong Kong via FedEx for $70 (EMS, which they also offer, would have been about $120). Took about 2-3 days.

EDIT: Just checked, and they now offer just UPS or EMS shipping options for X360 consoles. $72 for UPS (1-4 days), $120 for EMS (3-5 days).

RGC · Post by **RGC** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:20 am

Think I'll wait until DOJ-BL-X is preorderable, and then tap GP on the $houlder.

Etrian · Post by **Etrian** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:52 am

EOJ wrote:I think he's referring to their UPS and FedEx services. I got my X360 shipped from Hong Kong via FedEx for $70 (EMS, which they also offer, would have been about $120). Took about 2-3 days.

EDIT: Just checked, and they now offer just UPS or EMS shipping options for X360 consoles. $72 for UPS (1-4 days), $120 for EMS (3-5 days).

Yep, that's what I'm referring to. If GaijinPunch can ship them from Japan using UPS or FedEx, then it might be cheaper that way. Otherwise..

Apparently I'm "not trusted"

CStarFlare · Post by **CStarFlare** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:53 am

yeah how weird is that huh

Etrian · Post by **Etrian** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 4:29 am

CStarFlare wrote:yeah how weird is that huh

The items never arrived so I got a refund.. pretty straight forward stuff. I've had other deals with about 5 different people here but only 1 has bothered to put feedback on me. As for your trading record.. that would be zero.

Battlesmurf · Post by **Battlesmurf** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 5:06 am

Etrian wrote:
CStarFlare wrote:yeah how weird is that huh
The items never arrived so I got a refund.. pretty straight forward stuff. I've had other deals with about 5 different people here but only 1 has bothered to put feedback on me. As for your trading record.. that would be zero.

Lol..if it makes you feel any better I'd probably not partake in a business transaction with you after that fiasco. A 360 is alot to shoot out into the open- especially uninsured. I can't see why you of all people would want to risk that.

That being said- GP's a superhero when it comes to sourcing stuff. I've already tapped him on the shoulder. He doesn't seem out to make a profit- but I'll be damned if us forum members don't get him some flyer miles

Etrian · Post by **Etrian** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 5:29 am

Battlesmurf wrote:
Etrian wrote:
CStarFlare wrote:yeah how weird is that huh
The items never arrived so I got a refund.. pretty straight forward stuff. I've had other deals with about 5 different people here but only 1 has bothered to put feedback on me. As for your trading record.. that would be zero.
Lol..if it makes you feel any better I'd probably not partake in a business transaction with you after that fiasco. A 360 is alot to shoot out into the open- especially uninsured. I can't see why you of all people would want to risk that.

That being said- GP's a superhero when it comes to sourcing stuff. I've already tapped him on the shoulder. He doesn't seem out to make a profit- but I'll be damned if us forum members don't get him some flyer miles

k that's great. Guess you won't be buying any of my stuff then, and it'll go to someone else, but that isn't the point at all. I've never had a package from play-asia go missing, ever, and I'm fairly certain that the UPS option will also include tracking of some sort. I've done business with GaijinPunch before.. like, I'm not trying to take business away from him. Overall what I am getting at is the total cost -- in this case, play-asia seems to be cheaper.

Last of all, it still isn't my fault at all that Lordstar's items never arrived (and they still haven't).

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:17 pm

Etrian wrote:I've never had a package from play-asia go missing, ever,

I've sent a couple of thousand packages from Japan to you name it, and only two by airmail have gotten lost. None by SAL, none by boat. Still, there's a first for everything.

Last of all, it still isn't my fault at all that Lordstar's items never arrived (and they still haven't).

So to play devil's advocate, if you had me send it to you SAL and it didn't show up, would you issue a charge back? If you wouldn't bother w/ that type of shipping then you being trusted or not is a moot point.

Anyways, after checking, UPS' cheapest shipping method for a 6kg box is 26,000 yen. So yeah, that's out.

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:26 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:Anyways, after checking, UPS' cheapest shipping method for a 6kg box is 26,000 yen. So yeah, that's out.

Does the x360 kit weigh that much? Or were you referring to something else?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:48 am

moozooh wrote:
GaijinPunch wrote:Anyways, after checking, UPS' cheapest shipping method for a 6kg box is 26,000 yen. So yeah, that's out.
Does the x360 kit weigh that much? Or were you referring to something else?

It weight a bit over 6kg.

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:09 am

Etrian wrote:Overall what I am getting at is the total cost -- in this case, play-asia seems to be cheaper.

Wouldn't Y!JP be even cheaper in the long run? I see them there for 15-25k, or $150-250. And shipping would be... $70? I'm guessing since that's how much the shipping on my HRAP1 was. The Xbox 360 Arcades on Play-Asia are about $340 total. Overall that would be cheaper.

Etrian · Post by **Etrian** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:46 am

GaijinPunch wrote:So to play devil's advocate, if you had me send it to you SAL and it didn't show up, would you issue a charge back? If you wouldn't bother w/ that type of shipping then you being trusted or not is a moot point.

Are SAL and UPS different? Can't you use UPS?

Elixir wrote:Wouldn't Y!JP be even cheaper in the long run? I see them there for 15-25k, or $150-250. And shipping would be... $70? I'm guessing since that's how much the shipping on my HRAP1 was. The Xbox 360 Arcades on Play-Asia are about $340 total. Overall that would be cheaper.

I wouldn't have a clue.. expect Rinkya or SMJ to charge out the ass in shipping & their own fees. The HRAP is only 2.6KG in comparison to the 360 @ 8kg. zboz is HUEG. Even if you got one for 15,000 yen -- you'd probably end up paying the same amount in shipping+fees.

Triple Lei · Post by **Triple Lei** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:11 pm

I'll get the games as they come out because I think I'll regret it later if I don't.

As for actually getting a Japanese Xbox 360, I think I'll wait for that "Xbox 360 Slim". That would be cheaper to ship, wouldn't it?

Halloween Jack · Post by **Halloween Jack** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:03 pm

DEL wrote:Where do I buy a Jap X360?

Aargh, I'm in the same boat DEL, and finally lost the battle with my conscience and placed the order with GP

. Just couldn't bare the thought of missing out on Raiden IV bosses over the winter months...

Cheers

HJ

hirounder · Post by **hirounder** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:34 am

According to gpara article, both DDPDOJBL Extra and Ketsui Extra will be playable at Sega booth at next month's TGS, along with Shooting Love 200X.
Guess Sega will be distibutor for these games.

・Xbox360『シューティングラブ。200X』シューティング（試遊）
・Xbox360『怒首領峰大往生・ブラックレーベルEXTRA』シューティング（試遊）
・Xbox360『ケツイ〜絆地獄たち〜 EXTRA』シューティング（試遊）

http://www.gpara.com/article/cms_show.p ... 6&c_num=14

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:35 pm

Etrian wrote: Are SAL and UPS different? Can't you use UPS?

SAL is a method used by Japan Post. It's basically fast surface. UPS is a different company. And yes, I can use them. Shipping via UPS from Japan for the unit is $250 at least, as stated above.

Fudoh · Post by **Fudoh** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:48 pm

The UPS rates differ a lot between private (and small business) and real business accounts. PA ships a lot via UPS and they get real good prices. The same goes for Amazon JP.

It's the same with all the major freight companies (Fedex, DHL, UPS). As a private person (or with a small biz like GaijinPunch) you can hardly use those services at "normal" prices.

The japanese post office is among the best worlwide though. EMS service is ~ 3 days to Europe, airmail most often less than a week and even SAL is pretty good with 7-10 days to most european destinations.

hirounder · Post by **hirounder** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:10 pm

Original dolls from DOJDDP got redrawn for 360 port aswell. Leinyan's on missing page.