Zwei's nerd rage against Ketsui DS

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:26 pm

Zweihander wrote:
MX7 wrote:
Zweihander wrote: Um, I don't know about you, but if I'm going to pay $50+ for a SHOOTER, it had better be at least half an hour long.

Part of why I never bought any of the Psyvariar games. Thank you, Piracy!<3

I heard a rumour that some freaks replay a shooter, even after seeing the credits. Something about score. Sounds like bullshit to me.

jp · Post by jp » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:27 pm

So a good shmup to you is one where a boss takes 10 minutes to fight and has the same 3 simple as hell bullet patterns over and over for the duration of the fight?

I mean, if that floats your boat, fine. But I got really bored with Nanostray 2 really fast because of that. Nanostray was much better in my opinion (as was Iridion II, actually).

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:28 pm

needs moar Ketsui DS

jp · Post by jp » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:30 pm

Indeed.

I think Ketsui Death Label looks awesome. I cannot wait to give Arika $50 so that I can have an awesome 2D shooter on my DS so I can play it when I'm away from the Saturn/360 or while I'm laying on the couch watching Mystery Science Theater 3000.

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:30 pm

jp wrote:So a good shmup to you is one where a boss takes 10 minutes to fight and has the same 3 simple as hell bullet patterns over and over for the duration of the fight?

I mean, if that floats your boat, fine. But I got really bored with Nanostray 2 really fast because of that. Nanostray was much better in my opinion (as was Iridion II, actually).

Funny, since Nanostray 2 basically fixed all of the problems with the first game, including the invisible walls, the "valor" system, and the touch-screen weapon switch.

To be precise: I don't consider a 10-minute romp of all 5 or 6 boss fights before the credits roll to be a "good shmup". I consider that a "demo", and demos usually don't retail for $58.99.

But whatever, enjoy your overpriced weeaboo rubbish, fanboy.

Never_Scurred · Post by **Never_Scurred** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:30 pm

MX7 wrote:needs moar Ketsui R0 homeport

Fixed.

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:31 pm

jp wrote:Indeed.

I think Ketsui Death Label looks awesome. I cannot wait to give Arika $50 so that I can have an awesome 2D shooter on my DS so I can play it when I'm away from the Saturn/360 or while I'm laying on the couch watching Mystery Science Theater 3000.

You did get the memo that it's retailing for about $60, right?

jp · Post by jp » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:31 pm

Wow...

I'm getting called a "weeaboo" Cave fanboy.

Never. thought. I. would. see. the. day.

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:31 pm

Never_Scurred wrote:
MX7 wrote:needs moar Ketsui R0 homeport
Fixed.

Oh fuck yes.

Never_Scurred · Post by **Never_Scurred** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:31 pm

Zweihander wrote:I consider that a "demo", and demos usually don't retail for $58.99.

Real Talk.

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:32 pm

Never_Scurred wrote:
Zweihander wrote:I consider that a "demo", and demos usually don't retail for $58.99.
Real Talk.

Troof. I'll buy Ketsui DS when one of two things happen:

1. I can get it for $25 or less, still a steep price for a demo but I'll go by my word of "half a game for half the cost".
2. Arika calls me to let me know "Surprise! We're actually porting the full game to the DS."

Until then, R4 it is.

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:34 pm

Ketsui for DS?!

umi · Post by **umi** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:36 pm

It's hard enough to find quality games these days at all, let alone easily accessible, high-quality ports of kick-ass STGs I'd never get to play otherwise. I know I'd pay twice as much to be able to play this, even in a neutered form. Btw wtf aren't the boss fights always the highlights anyway? Not as climactic without the level sure, but... why shit all over a labour of love such as this? Amazing :shock: Someone find Zweihander a job...

I pre-ordered 2 just so I can preach, uh, share the cave love with my step brothers.

You can have my spare dvd if you want zwei...

brokenhalo · Post by **brokenhalo** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:38 pm

MX7 wrote:Ketsui for DS?!

since when? somebody start a thread!1!!so zweihander can ruin it

jp · Post by jp » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:38 pm

Zweihander wrote:
jp wrote:Indeed.

I think Ketsui Death Label looks awesome. I cannot wait to give Arika $50 so that I can have an awesome 2D shooter on my DS so I can play it when I'm away from the Saturn/360 or while I'm laying on the couch watching Mystery Science Theater 3000.
You did get the memo that it's retailing for about $60, right?

Oh noez! Ten more dollars! Whatever will I do!?

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:38 pm

umi wrote:It's hard enough to find quality games these days at all, let alone easily accessible, high-quality ports of kick-ass STGs I'd never get to play otherwise. I know I'd pay twice as much to be able to play this, even in a neutered form. Btw wtf aren't the boss fights always the highlights anyway? Not as climactic without the level sure, but... why shit all over a labour of love such as this? Amazing Someone find Zweihander a job...

I pre-ordered 2 just so I can preach, uh, share the cave love with my step brothers.

You can have my spare dvd if you want zwei...

No thanks, odds are I can just find a torrent of it.

It saddens me... I used to be a big fan of Cave. ESPgaluda is still my #1 favorite game, but I wouldn't have paid the same $70 I did if it was just a boss-rush-only demo disc.

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:39 pm

jp wrote:
Zweihander wrote:
jp wrote:Indeed.

I think Ketsui Death Label looks awesome. I cannot wait to give Arika $50 so that I can have an awesome 2D shooter on my DS so I can play it when I'm away from the Saturn/360 or while I'm laying on the couch watching Mystery Science Theater 3000.
You did get the memo that it's retailing for about $60, right?
Oh noez! Ten more dollars! Whatever will I do!?

More like "Thirty-five more dollars than it should be."

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:40 pm

MX7 wrote:Ketsui for DS?!

Nah, not quite. A demo cart doesn't really qualify as a full game, sorry to disappoint.

jp · Post by jp » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:42 pm

Zweihander wrote:
jp wrote:
Zweihander wrote: You did get the memo that it's retailing for about $60, right?
Oh noez! Ten more dollars! Whatever will I do!?
More like "Thirty-five more dollars than it should be."

It has a lot of bonus stuff in it. *shrugs*

Never_Scurred · Post by **Never_Scurred** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:43 pm

Zweihander wrote:
Never_Scurred wrote:
Zweihander wrote:I consider that a "demo", and demos usually don't retail for $58.99.
Real Talk.
Troof. I'll buy Ketsui DS when one of two things happen:

1. I can get it for $25 or less, still a steep price for a demo but I'll go by my word of "half a game for half the cost".
2. Arika calls me to let me know "Surprise! We're actually porting the full game to the DS."

Until then, R4 it is.

I seriously doubt it'll hit the sub $40 range since once Play-Asia hits the bottom of their stock (which when it comes to import gaming shops, doesn't take very long to do) it will jump in price due to "ohhhh rarez cave game!!!"

Never_Scurred · Post by **Never_Scurred** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:44 pm

jp wrote:
Zweihander wrote:
jp wrote: Oh noez! Ten more dollars! Whatever will I do!?
More like "Thirty-five more dollars than it should be."
It has a lot of bonus stuff in it. *shrugs*

What is that?
The rest of the game? LOL

jp · Post by jp » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:45 pm

Would it even be technically possible for them to do a full port of Ketsui to the DS?

I mean, from what I've seen, even the boss fights have been really dumbed down in comparison...

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:50 pm

Never_Scurred wrote:
jp wrote:
Zweihander wrote:More like "Thirty-five more dollars than it should be."
It has a lot of bonus stuff in it. *shrugs*
What is that?
The rest of the game? LOL

Epic burn. I lol'd.

MR_Soren · Post by **MR_Soren** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:51 pm

Zwei, we get it, you do not like this game that you've never played before and consider it to be a rip-off. You don't need to say it again.

However, I should point out the fault in most of your posts: A longer game isn't necessarily a better game. Likewise, getting kicked in the balls for 30 minutes isn't as good as 15 minutes of sex. I'd spend a little extra to get the sex, even though it doesn't last as long as the ball kicking.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to this game. It looks like it will be a lot of fun.

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:54 pm

Never_Scurred wrote:
Zweihander wrote:
Never_Scurred wrote: Real Talk.
Troof. I'll buy Ketsui DS when one of two things happen:

1. I can get it for $25 or less, still a steep price for a demo but I'll go by my word of "half a game for half the cost".
2. Arika calls me to let me know "Surprise! We're actually porting the full game to the DS."

Until then, R4 it is.
I seriously doubt it'll hit the sub $40 range since once Play-Asia hits the bottom of their stock (which when it comes to import gaming shops, doesn't take very long to do) it will jump in price due to "ohhhh rarez cave game!!!"

I got Rez on PS2 for $12 from them, so who knows. However, every Cave shooter's price skyrockets near the end of their production run, and there never seems to be a price drop. I was lucky enough to find DaiOuJou for $80 this year at a gaming convention, used but in pristine condition. This, however, is Cave's first portable outing, and it's just a demo of a full game being released for the 360, so we'll see.

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:55 pm

MR_Soren wrote:Zwei, we get it, you do not like this game that you've never played before and consider it to be a rip-off. You don't need to say it again.

However, I should point out the fault in most of your posts: A longer game isn't necessarily a better game. Likewise, getting kicked in the balls for 30 minutes isn't as good as 15 minutes of sex. I'd spend a little extra to get the sex, even though it doesn't last as long as the ball kicking.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to this game. It looks like it will be a lot of fun.

Nah, if I wanted 30 minutes of ball-kicking, I'd play Chaos Field, Nanostray 1, or Karous. Also, I never said I don't want to play Ketsui. I'm sure it's a decent game. However, a $60 demo is no good. You'd have to be a fanboy to argue otherwise.

However, I'm also looking forward to it... on my R4, I mean.

Herr Schatten · Post by **Herr Schatten** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:46 pm

Zweihander wrote:However, I'm also looking forward to it... on my R4, I mean.

The more often you say that you are a pirate the more awesome it gets.

moonblood · Post by **moonblood** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:07 pm

Wow this thread quickly turned into all kinds of awesome

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:36 pm

Herr Schatten wrote:
Zweihander wrote:However, I'm also looking forward to it... on my R4, I mean.
The more often you say that you are a pirate the more awesome it gets.

Such a catchy song.

I wonder if Stephanie's carpet matches the drapes.

Kaspal · Post by **Kaspal** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:51 pm

MR_Soren wrote:Zwei, we get it, you do not like this game that you've never played before and consider it to be a rip-off. You don't need to say it again.

However, I should point out the fault in most of your posts: A longer game isn't necessarily a better game. Likewise, getting kicked in the balls for 30 minutes isn't as good as 15 minutes of sex. I'd spend a little extra to get the sex, even though it doesn't last as long as the ball kicking.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to this game. It looks like it will be a lot of fun.

i LOL'ed hard at this part... its so true man!!

i usually dont buy games that i dont intend to play for long periods of time, and since im more of a handheld gamer now adays than ever, some shmup love on the go its a heavens blessing for me.

ketsui its one of those "rare" cave games on home consoles, and havin a boss-rush of it on the go its pretty good for me... sure, i'd love to have the whole thing on the go, but if its NOT technically possible rite now, i'd settle for the boss-rush in the blink of an eye.

you dont wanna pay for it, Zwei, dont worry, we will, and by the time you decide to do so (which i doubt, btw) we'll be happy with our hard copy of the game.

i really wanted to reply to lots of your messages, i found some of them pretty hilarious, but sadly i was at work and was kinda hard for me to read them while there (i dont ahve time for forum browsing while at work), but one thing is for sure dude, GET A LIFE!... we already know you dont wanna pay for the game, and that you'll pirate it... is there a need for you to say it a billion times?.

im no cave fanboy... im a shmup lover, and since cave makes good games its only natural for me to want to play every shmup the churn out, if that makes me a fanboy, fanboy i am then... is there a problem with that?... if i wanna buy a "demo" of a game for 500 bux, why are you suffering for that?... is your money that is being spent or something?.

just let it go man!... most of us wont have the chance to play the full fledged ketsui EVER (i dont have a JAP X360, or i'd be importing this one aswell), so whts wrong of playin only the boss fights?... even moreso, what wrong on enjoyin the bossfight of such game ON THE EFFIN GO!?... i'll gladly pay my 50-60 bux for it... and dont cry for me, cuz i dont feel like i've been ripped off, im just payin for another fix of somethin i like, so if i wanna pay for that is MY FREAKING PROBLEM, not yours.

so, save the preach on me (at least), im not listenin... and, yeah, like FrederikJuk said, ban yourself man!.