China suddenly has bootlegged Sega pc pads perhaps?

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:36 am

D wrote: Can dupes be this good? I never saw or even heard of bootlegged peripherals. These guys are pioneers?

Nah, i have a bootlegged PS2 Controller. And it sucks!
The controls are not responsive and buttons work only if you press them really hard.
But i am optimistic with this Sega-pad.

Rezatron · Post by **Rezatron** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:53 am

You can snag black ones now:

http://cgi.ebay.com/SEGA-Saturn-SS-USB- ... 00595325QQ

(you must specify the color after checkout)

D · Post by D » Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:07 am

Strider77 wrote:
They should make a ps button on that so I can play ps2 games on the ps3!
you don't need one, I play PS2 games on my PS3 with my arcade stick via a USB adapter all the time with no PS button.

How does this work? caus with a normal sixaxis you have to press the ps button. Is there a technique to get usb devices wthout a ps button to play ps2 games on ps3?
how?

edit:

Rezatron wrote:You can snag black ones now:

http://cgi.ebay.com/SEGA-Saturn-SS-USB- ... 00595325QQ

(you must specify the color after checkout)

How many colors of the original were even ever made?
I never was able to find any info on these pads. Is there an information source somewhere

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:55 am

Received them a few minutes ago... they are pretty good.
D-Pad is quick and responsive. The sound of the buttons is a little clicky, but that might go away.
Shoryuken-approved

gonna put pics up tonight or tomorrow, since i've got to get to work soon.

uroko-sakanabito · Post by **uroko-sakanabito** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:11 am

Hehe, i have one too and i love it;

Comparsion;

Rezatron · Post by **Rezatron** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:18 am

D wrote:How many colors of the original were even ever made?
I never was able to find any info on these pads. Is there an information source somewhere

On the USB side you had 8 colors. Get ready for some controller pr0n:

^ These 3 on eBay right now.

Plus 2 amazing metallic versions. If anyone has one of these I will give you $150 right now.

Champagne Gold and Metallic Blue:

then you had PS2 colors... screw it, if you want to see those colors go on playasia.

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:30 am

Saturn repoduction padz!!!11! Gotta catch'em all!

I like these three

Rezatron · Post by **Rezatron** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:36 am

Lordstar wrote:Saturn repoduction padz!!!11! Gotta catch'em all!

I like these three

I have 2 of those, never seen the orange anywhere though.

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:56 am

this the the point where you get people sending you PMs saying I WANTZ!!

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:22 pm

Jockel wrote:Received them a few minutes ago... they are pretty good.
D-Pad is quick and responsive. The sound of the buttons is a little clicky, but that might go away.
Shoryuken-approved
gonna put pics up tonight or tomorrow, since i've got to get to work soon.

Which means to me that I too will soon SATURN PAD GET!

D · Post by D » Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:49 pm

Rezatron wrote:

I want this one. Then I'll swap the buttons for white buttons

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:58 pm

How does this work? caus with a normal sixaxis you have to press the ps button. Is there a technique to get usb devices wthout a ps button to play ps2 games on ps3?
how?

you only have to press that button b/c:

when the PS3 switches over over to it's PS2 mode it sort of resets, it drops it's wireless signal then reactivates it; so you have to press that PS button to reactivate the controller and have it sync up to the system again.

have you tried playing PS2 games with that saturn pad yet? have they not worked for you in PS2 mode?

I have not used those pads but I can promise you that I've navigated through the PS3 dashboard, played the battle fantasia demo, and played KOF 98 UM all with my stick connected directly with a PS2 to USB adapter that has no PS button. I was never prompted to press the PS button either.

D · Post by D » Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:04 pm

Strider77 wrote:have you tried playing PS2 games with that saturn pad yet? have they not worked for you in PS2 mode?

Thanks for the explanation.
Not one ps2 game has worked for me, I tried all kinds of weird procedures and tests, but nothing. I do hope to find out a way to do it.
ps3 and ps1 games for fine and do not reset the connection. I've got a HK ps3 60GB and I tried with an original saturn usb pad.
Perhaps somebody knows what the deal is here?

EDIT: I wonder if any ps3 usb sticks work with ps2 games on the ps3, or are they all with ps buttons? probably. OK, so ps2-USB converters work.
Hmmm, well, it's a shock that the usb saturn pads even work with ps3 in the first place.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:14 pm

I'd guess that a Chinese company (maybe even the company that made these originally) has obtained a license from SEGA to produce these. They look too good to be fakes, and there are too many of them, and in too many colours, to be new old stock. Maybe?

D · Post by D » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:24 pm

Mikey wrote:I'd guess that a Chinese company (maybe even the company that made these originally) has obtained a license from SEGA to produce these. They look too good to be fakes, and there are too many of them, and in too many colours, to be new old stock. Maybe?

Sega has not issued a press release stating they would start producing these again. I think that they are not fakes. I bet they are/were made in the same factory the originals were made. Or perhaps a new intern somehwere asked: "hey, what's in here?".
So many possibilities!

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:27 pm

i'm asking but there not replying

which would lead me to think there Boots. I daont care sega are ot producing them and these are just as good.

LaserGun · Post by **LaserGun** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:14 pm

Hi ___, we received our order of the Sega Saturn pads today and we can confirm that they are authentic. We matched them to our original pads that we have been using for a few years now. The cardboard packaging, the controller cables, the circuit board, and the buttons are the same.

We sent a few emails to the seller inquiring about ordering larger quantities but unfortunately they haven't responded to our inquiries. Based on what our Hong Kong suppliers have told us, the supply that they had remaining was probably old stock from a few years ago which they started selling.

Regards,
NCS, Inc

I just saw that on SRK, it's an email reply from NCSX, sounds like they must be original old stock then.

Rezatron · Post by **Rezatron** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:56 pm

Mikey wrote:I'd guess that a Chinese company (maybe even the company that made these originally) has obtained a license from SEGA to produce these. They look too good to be fakes, and there are too many of them, and in too many colours, to be new old stock. Maybe?

The 3 colors on eBay right now were the most common/most produced variants back in 2004. This combined with the thread @ SRK and that NCS e-mail above pretty much confirms suspicions that these are in fact "New old stock."

Get 'em while you can!

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:59 pm

Oh wow, I can´t believe I got so lucky then

Etrian · Post by **Etrian** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:15 am

What the.. the same seller is now selling them for $70+ BIN. Lame.

LaserGun · Post by **LaserGun** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:38 am

Etrian wrote:What the.. the same seller is now selling them for $70+ BIN. Lame.

I know, it's ridiculous isn't it? I really want a pair of grey controllers too, it looks like no one is really buying them due to the inflated prices, so I expect the prices to hopefully drop soon.

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:51 am

Actually, he is trying to sell a pair of grey ones for 89 USD now. This is the fault of all those Lordstars and NCSXs pestering the seller with questions, combined with buyers actually willing to pay those stupid prices.

Simple solution: Don't buy them. The seller wants to unload his stock- he'll be forced to lower his prices. As you can see, the first couple of BIN auctions have already ended without anyone buying. That's good.

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:41 am

I asked him one question about there origin. Mine combined with everyone elses is at fault.

Oh yeah and the greedy Hong Kong chinese guy whos selling it maybe?
and the people stupid people prepared to pay way over the odds.

Maybe we should all shut up about it

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:46 am

question: What was the original price back in 94?

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:54 am

They came out in 2004, not '94, and they cost about 30 USD a piece back then (2980 Yen).

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:54 am

Holy dickhornets. I knew something like this would end up happening.

I'll probably end up using mine though. The grey ones don't get dirty as much as the pink and white ones.

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:56 am

Ceph wrote:They came out in 2004, not '94, and they cost about 30 USD a piece.

yeah my bad typo. Well I paid 30USD for two of them so im blamless

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:59 am

Elixir wrote: I'll probably end up using mine though.

OMG, you'll actually use them, as opposed to let them remain in their boxes until the day you die? Wow!

lewisit · Post by **lewisit** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:55 pm

got my pair today:

- plug&play in xp

- original or not, they feel absolute great and i'm sure i'm gonna have alot of fun with them (hope they last...)

- for the old bin-price def. a steal - dunno if they're really "worth" the newer prices (considering the shitty alternatives when it comes to d-pads on other usb-controllers, they actually might...)

i'm happy with my purcase

[throws away that *@%#! psx-controller and never uses it again]

D · Post by D » Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:37 pm

Ceph wrote:OMG, you'll actually use them, as opposed to let them remain in their boxes until the day you die? Wow!

Using a controller? This is pure madness.
I bought mine to scrub the toilet clean.

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China suddenly has bootlegged Sega pc pads perhaps?

original or boot?