So I bought a Dreamcast today...

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:07 pm

Motorherp wrote:
FIL wrote:Its on XBLA.
Not for much longer.

You'll still be able to get it... you'll just have to jump through an unnecessary series of hoops in order to buy it.

Momijitsuki · Post by **Momijitsuki** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:34 pm

doctorx0079 wrote:
Momijitsuki wrote:
Fenrir wrote:I won't suggest you anything because this board is literally packed with DC shmup lists, but let me get it straight: you managed to snatch a jap DC with 12 jap games for $35 (aka NOTHING) or is it an US DC with loader disk and 12 crappy NTSC/UC sports/driving games, as with the usual collection of the typical joe dimwit across the road?

(ps. I'd keep them all btw. DC games are always a joy to look at)
Ha, I wish it was a Japanese one, but no. It's just a regular US DC.
I'll take a wild guess and say the games you got are a whole bunch of sports games, Shenmue and Crazy Taxi. Maybe Sonic Adventure and Space Channel 5 if you're lucky.

Crazy Taxi was one of them, but that's the only one from your list.

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:36 pm

Elixir wrote: And it's one of the worst shmup compilations ever seen.

Why?

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:07 pm

maxmultiplier wrote:I just received my 2 copies from play-asia & I must say I'm extremely disappointed with this release.
All 3 games are ports of the inferior DC version which means Rajirugi & Chaos Field do not contain any of the exclusive modes that were found in the GC & PS2 version.

The Wii version of Rajirugi is missing Manpuku Mode, Okawari Mode, Score Attack/Practice Mode, Remix Soundtrack, Exclusive Eyecatches, & Internet Ranking.

The Wii version of Chaos Field is missing Arrange Mode, & Challenge Mode.

The Wii version of Karous has no new modes whatsoever.

The only mode that is new to this release is Sound Test. This mode allows you to listen to any track you want from any of the 3 games. The Rajirugi Remix Soundtrack doesn't seem to be included.

It doesn't make any sence why Milestone couldn't of added all of these modes & Internet Ranking to this collection when they were already in some of the previous releases. I feel cheated.

I have almost no motivation to play this release. I'd rather stick to the GC version for the extra modes & remix music. They should of called this 'Milestone Bare-Bones Collection'. Waste of money if you ask me.

This is why.

malik11 · Post by **malik11** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:56 pm

Elixir wrote:
Jockel wrote:since Karous Wii has already launched 2 month ago.
And it contains Radilgy and Chaos Field as bonus.
And it's one of the worst shmup compilations ever seen.

It doesn't really matter if they're exclusive titles or not. I'm pretty sure most shooters on the DC are arcade perfect.

Three modern shmups for fifty dollars is not good enough for you? If they are accurate ports, I think that's a good deal.

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:09 pm

malik11 wrote:Three modern shmups for fifty dollars is not good enough for you? If they are accurate ports, I think that's a good deal.

Not good enough, given the evidence. There probably won't be any changes to the compilation's benefit while localising.

Cheaper options usually mean sacrificing quality. Reportedly this compilation is a disappointment, and I don't really enjoy playing any STG without a Saturn pad or Seimitsu stick. But hey, that's just me.

Since the OP just bought a Dreamcast, it would be wise to track down the DC versions.

malik11 · Post by **malik11** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:28 am

Elixir wrote: Since the OP just bought a Dreamcast, it would be wise to track down the DC versions.

I don't disagree in the least. Let's not forget that the aforementioned compilation uses the 3 DC versions. I am defending the DC titles.

nimitz · Post by **nimitz** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:53 am

Seriously...

since when does extra features, remixed soundtrack, extra modes and such have to do with the value of a SHMUP port.

If the games are faithfull to the Dreamcast versions this is at least worth as much as the 3 DC games combined which is great even if you don't like Milestone shmups...

RackGaki · Post by **RackGaki** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:44 am

nimitz wrote:Seriously...

since when does extra features, remixed soundtrack, extra modes and such have to do with the value of a SHMUP port.

If the games are faithfull to the Dreamcast versions this is at least worth as much as the 3 DC games combined which is great even if you don't like Milestone shmups...

The Milestone Shooters Collection is priced modestly enough to compensate for the lack of extras. Karous alone goes for $100 or more on the Dreamcast. If I really want the extra modes in Radilgy, I can buy the $40 copy on eBay.

It seems to me that one person was upset with a lack of extras because he spent $100 (2 copies) on three games he already had. The disdain for this compilation has been parroted without any context.

Since the OP has a Dreamcast, he can just find some backup copies. Purchasing any Milestone game on the DC is only feeding the collector's wallet since they are all OOP. You don't buy a $35 Dreamcast to spend $100 on individual games...

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:46 am

But i've got to add that the tate mode in Karous Wii is crap.
Because controls are not "rotated"- so it plays like a (terrible) horizontal shmup.

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:11 am

Are you fucking joking? You can't change the controls or anything in the options menu?

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:14 am

Jockel wrote:But i've got to add that the tate mode in Karous Wii is crap.
Because controls are not "rotated"- so it plays like a (terrible) horizontal shmup.

There's no option to rotate the controls? Does Radirgy suffer from the same oversight?

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:42 am

Karous alone goes for $100 or more on the Dreamcast.

is this for real? i own it and had no idea.

Bootaaay · Post by **Bootaaay** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:51 am

Yep, average ebay price is £50/$100 for Karous - it's irritating as hell trying to find it for £50 or less inc. postage, but i'm just not willing to spend that much on it.

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:41 am

Jockel wrote:But i've got to add that the tate mode in Karous Wii is crap.
Because controls are not "rotated"- so it plays like a (terrible) horizontal shmup.

Holy f* shit...

clp · Post by **clp** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:03 pm

im glad i own the dreamcast ports now heh .

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:23 pm

Bootaaay wrote:Yep, average ebay price is £50/$100 for Karous - it's irritating as hell trying to find it for £50 or less inc. postage, but i'm just not willing to spend that much on it.

http://www.videogameimports.com/get_gam ... oduct=7967

The used copy isn't quite so ludicrously priced (although, VGI have a tendancy to be expensive to begin with).

Bootaaay · Post by **Bootaaay** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:49 pm

Awesome, thanks for the link mate