Ketsui for DS?!

Etrian · Post by **Etrian** » Tue May 27, 2008 12:12 am

Jockel wrote:I seriously cant stand the waiting time.
Being a console-only-shmuper, i could only experience the PS2 Ports of the Cave games. And there it is; finally an opportunity to play _the_ Cave game ever, without having to shell out 500+$

Spoilers: This is not Ketsui, this is a butchered version made for the DS.

neist · Post by **neist** » Tue May 27, 2008 2:19 am

Etrian wrote:
Jockel wrote:I seriously cant stand the waiting time.
Being a console-only-shmuper, i could only experience the PS2 Ports of the Cave games. And there it is; finally an opportunity to play _the_ Cave game ever, without having to shell out 500+$
Spoilers: This is not Ketsui, this is a butchered version made for the DS.

Yea, but its better than nothing.

I'm just happy its coming to a region free console. Everything will be gravy when shooters start to hit the PS3.

orange · Post by **orange** » Tue May 27, 2008 2:26 am

so everything is going to be gravy never?

:3

neist · Post by **neist** » Tue May 27, 2008 2:43 am

orange wrote:so everything is going to be gravy never?

:3

Pfft. PS3 should kick off in 4-5 years.

Thats considering shooters aren't reimagined by then. I'm starting to worry with the declining Japanese arcade market. Hopefully they wont die for good.

Avist Torch · Post by **Avist Torch** » Tue May 27, 2008 2:52 am

I'm not sure many shmups will make it to PS3, since Ketsui and Dai-ou-jou Black Label are on track for releases on the 360. It seems to me that if it was feasible, CAVE would rather have licensed out PS3 ports instead since it's so much more popular than the 360 in Japan. And that would've been sweet since PS3 games are region-free.

Maybe it's just hard to program or something, I don't know.

Etrian · Post by **Etrian** » Tue May 27, 2008 2:58 am

I get the feeling that the shooting department has gone the way of the 360.

The DS is region free, which is great, but I can't see many quality shooters ending up on it (as it stands, Ketsui DS seems rather watered down, although still good).

koda · Post by **koda** » Tue May 27, 2008 4:36 am

Does Play-Asia sell out of preorders? Their system seems sort of strange, since it makes it easy for people to flake out, and probably encourages a lot of 'half-hearted' orders. I pretty much wish they'd just charge my card the full price now so I could sit easy and not have to think about it again until the game arrived on my doorstep.

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Tue May 27, 2008 4:41 am

@Etrian: I am aware that this is a gimped version, but i guess the bullet patterns will stay the same. And thats the most important thing, right?
I would get Ketsui for the 360 too, if its region free ^^
(And of course i played DOJ- and freakin love it)

jp · Post by jp » Tue May 27, 2008 5:05 am

Got it pre-ordered.

Man, this might even surpass Judgement Silversword as the best handheld shmup ever.

Erinu · Post by **Erinu** » Tue May 27, 2008 5:09 am

koda wrote:Does Play-Asia sell out of preorders?

Wii Fit sold out of preorders, so... yes. Ketsui DS.. eeehhh it probably won't be presold.

Etrian wrote:
Jockel wrote:I seriously cant stand the waiting time.
Being a console-only-shmuper, i could only experience the PS2 Ports of the Cave games. And there it is; finally an opportunity to play _the_ Cave game ever, without having to shell out 500+$
Spoilers: This is not Ketsui, this is a butchered version made for the DS.

Bitch bitch bitch. You people whine for a Ketsui port and everyone bitches about it. :rolleyes:

jp · Post by jp » Tue May 27, 2008 5:13 am

I don't see how anyone could bitch about a lack of a Ketsui port. We're getting one this year on the 360.

The DS game is just something neat to carry around with you.

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Tue May 27, 2008 2:02 pm

Jockel wrote:@Etrian: I am aware that this is a gimped version, but i guess the bullet patterns will stay the same. And thats the most important thing, right?

The bullet patterns will be modified to fit the less than perfect controls (processing power/screen resolution) of the DS. However, as far as I can tell, the "spirit" of most patterns has been kept, as the more memorizable patterns are still in it (thinking of the stage 4(?) boss stream of bullets that forces you around the screen clockwise, for instance). And since there are three difficulty modes there might be some variation in that (adding to that there seems to be some sort of rank in it, too).

I guess the scoring system will suffer from the lack of stages, because aside from the pretty bullets the bosses throw at you the proximity scoring system sounds very thrilling to me (a nice, flexible risk/reward-setup), so I think of Ketsui DS as "sweet little boss-rush with nice patterns and hopefully not completely screwed up scoring and Ketsui art".

But I share your enthusiasm and have been excited about this from the first moment I heard about it (at first everybody thought this was an Aprils Fools, and for good reason), and it will easily push aside every other game on the DS for me. Even Nanostray 2 started to bore me after a couple of days, and since I grew up with the Gameboy I have an unnatural preference for handheld gaming, propably the worst attitude to have if you´re also a bullet-hell shmup fan.

tl;dr HELL YEAH.

Etrian wrote: The DS is region free, which is great, but I can't see many quality shooters ending up on it (as it stands, Ketsui DS seems rather watered down, although still good).

There might never come a shmup to the DS after that, EVER, or maybe, if this game sells well, it might initiate some other shmups to come out on it - I mean original games or portable versions, like in this case, not just old games emulated; MODERN shmups. I guess it´s just a question of how the japanese market reacts to it. Maybe it might even create some new interest in the genre? Ah, wait and see... Though I believe that the inclusion of a multiplayer versus mode might prove to be a very clever decision - think of japanese shmup fanatics battling each other while taking breaks from playing on the cabinets. I could be far off, though, but who knows...

PsikyoPshumpPshooterP · Wed May 28, 2008 12:49 am

got this pre-ordered. duno why

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:44 pm

Thread revived.
Seems like it got a final boxart now, and a Cero A rating.

Domino · Post by **Domino** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:57 pm

Play-Asia now wants $10 more for a pre-order copy:

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-9g- ... -2rh8.html

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:11 pm

Domino wrote:Play-Asia now wants $10 more for a pre-order copy:

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-9g- ... -2rh8.html

crap

Post by **spadgy** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:26 pm

Seems they still charge you the original price if you ordered before the price hike...

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:35 pm

Yeah, I was wondering why this was so cheap before. It does include a DVD. Let's just hope PA stick to their promise.

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:58 pm

It is available for pre-order at yesasia for $55.99 with free shipping.

link

Going to order mine right now.

msm · Post by **msm** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:38 pm

^ thanks, ordered

this is a bargain, wanted to get the old inh superplay dvd but that cost more on it's own!

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:02 pm

msm wrote:^ thanks, ordered

this is a bargain, wanted to get the old inh superplay dvd but that cost more on it's own!

It;s not the same as the INH superplay, but I presume it'll be an even better one, so this is a grat bargin however you look at it

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:23 pm

I wonder how it will be packaged since a DVD doesn´t quite fit into a DS case.

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:59 pm

^^^^

My guess is it'll come in a small, glossy, cardboard slip case.

Looking forward to trying this. Sure it's a novelty but a darn nice one and impressed it made it beyond the supposed April fool's joke of long ago. Is the multiplayer single cart?

Domino · Post by **Domino** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:40 am

spadgy wrote:Seems they still charge you the original price if you ordered before the price hike...

Play-Asia is still charging me $48.90 for Ketsui DS. I pre-order it a week before they raise their prices.

gs68 · Post by **gs68** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:36 am

So I'm watching videos of this game on YouTurd--I mean, YouTube, and I come across this:

Hell Yeah , Touhou in DS!! , its gonna ruleeee!!

GAHDAMMIT TOUHOU FANS

please stop saying that every danmaku shmup is a derivative of touhou before i laser-bomb you all to death.

Anyways, I'm not too sure about a danmaku on one DS screen. We'll see, I guess. It beats that annoying gimmick of "hay guys lets combine 2 screens to make 1 tall screen, never mind the gap between the screens."

hermosaguy · Post by **hermosaguy** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:38 am

Put my order in at yes asia. Hopefully my R4 will suffice till the game gets into my hands!

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:05 am

gs68 wrote:So I'm watching videos of this game on YouTurd--I mean, YouTube, and I come across this:
Hell Yeah , Touhou in DS!! , its gonna ruleeee!!
GAHDAMMIT TOUHOU FANS"

There was a similar comment like "Looks like a Touhou game without the awesome spell cards". SHHYEAH RIGHT

gs68 wrote: Anyways, I'm not too sure about a danmaku on one DS screen. We'll see, I guess. It beats that annoying gimmick of "hay guys lets combine 2 screens to make 1 tall screen, never mind the gap between the screens."

Yeah, that two-screen vertical mode is always, ALWAYS horrible, that gap just never stops being annoying and confusing. And lets not forget that stretching the action on both screens adds much more strain on the already not very powerful DS processor.

I just hope people finally realized that this can´t possibly compare to the original Ketsui. The only thing I am really anxious about is if that game runs with a high framerate. It looks a bit choppy in the official trailer; and nothing kills shmups more than not running silky smooth. (Aside from having bad controls. Oh wait...)

Regardless, the thought of having a Ketsui bossrush on my DS still makes me excited, even if it´s dumbed down to fit on a inferior hardware.

Zuhzuhzombie!! · Post by **Zuhzuhzombie!!** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:59 pm

I'd like to get it, but Ketsui on the DS would murder my eyes.

Still hopin for a localized 360 port.

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:29 pm

How come there's no mention of the DVD on the Yes-Asia and Play-Asia pre-order pages?

orange · Post by **orange** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:39 pm

someone call up zun and tell him to stop making games

if you want to call them that