I can haz cheezburger?

[Neon]

Just curious. I converted a few months ago. Hasn't helped me lose the beer belly, but I'm sticking with it. One of my friends described what they do to animals at factory farms and it's pretty horrifying

[Udderdude]

One of my friends described what they do to animals at factory farms and it's pretty delicious. Eventually.

Fixed.

[jpj]

apart from bread, i may as well be a carnivore

[Ozymandiaz1260]

No. The animals die whether I eat them or not, so I might as well have a healthy diet. It does make me sad when I really think about it though.

[Turrican]

I mostly eat veggies. Almost never meat. But I eat it on special occasions.

[Lordstar]

One of my friends described what they do to animals at factory farms and it's pretty delicious. Eventually.

Fixed.

agreed

apart from bread, i may as well be a carnivore

I cannot imagine a sandwich without some kind of delicious meat inside.

seriously tell me one sandwich "recipe" which does not contain some kind of meat?

F.Y.I. Fish is meat and non of you half arsed veggies can say whatever you want about it but its still the flesh of an animal. As for you who think its ok to eat chicken and call your self a veggie well you might as well just fuck off and say Well I dont like beef, pork or lamb.

[Ed Oscuro]

yo all these new age vegans are doing it wrong. needs moar fiber and less spices just like Will Harvey Kellogg would do

[themachinist]

No. Meat is good. Very good. Being a vegetarian will not delete your beer belly.

[Ed Oscuro]

especially when thrust beneath one's nose

[Ganelon]

seriously tell me one sandwich "recipe" which does not contain some kind of meat?

Portobello. Anyway, you can just imagine how you would feel if your mind was trapped in a pig's body, with your whole species bred for consumption. That said, I have no qualms eating meat although overindulgence, as with any other type of food, won't do any good for your body.

[Lordstar]

Portobello.

thats a word not a reciepe! I am however wrong as you can get away with not adding meat to a sandwich with cheese (since some cheeses are quite awesome)

[MX7]

Awesome, well done! I'm always very proud of people who become vegetarian for ethical reasons in later life (i.e not raised vegetarian). I've been vegetarian all my life. I have been a vegan for about 6 years now. Hasn't been going so well recently. I was doing so well as well

It's pretty easy though. I'm not a big vegetable fan, and I get by fine.

[shoe-sama]

No. The animals die whether I eat them or not, so I might as well have a healthy diet. It does make me sad when I really think about it though.

One of the things about vegetarianism and veganism is that animals use up more resources per unit weight than crops. Reducing demand reduces this energy expenditure by reducing the amount or meat supplied at equilibrium. Might possibly reduce the supply curve itself in the long run if a widespread shift to vegetarianism occurs too.

Anyways
I've found myself eating less meat recently because the uni dining halls suck.
I still eat it whenever there's anything delicious though.

[Lordstar]

For the portobello mushrooms:
1. Preheat the grill.

2. Mix the olive oil, garlic, salt, pepper and 1 teaspoon of the basil together. Remove the stems from the mushrooms and brush both sides of the caps with the olive oil mixture. Set aside.

3. Grill the mushrooms until they are soft in the center, about 3 to 4 minutes on each side. Slice each cap on the diagonal into 1" strips.

For the sandwiches:
4. Mix the cheese, the remaining teaspoon of basil, salt and pepper together. Set aside.

5. Spread 6 halves of bread with the cheese mixture, then top with the spinach or arugula, a slice of tomato and several portobello mushroom strips. Place the other half of the bread on top.

Serving Size: 1 sandwich

hummmmmmmm sounds a like a lot of arse'n and messing about just for a sandwich.

[Ruldra]

(...)Hasn't helped me lose the beer belly

Maybe you should cut the beer instead.

And I have no qualms about eating meat. You need them for a healthy diet and it's delicious.

[MX7]

No. The animals die whether I eat them or not, so I might as well have a healthy diet. It does make me sad when I really think about it though.

One of the things about vegetarianism and veganism is that animals use up more resources per unit weight than crops. Reducing demand reduces this energy expenditure by reducing the amount or meat supplied at equilibrium.

Anyways
I've found myself eating less meat recently because the uni dining halls suck.
I still eat it whenever there's anything delicious though.

Don't forget that Soya, the primary ingredient of many meat substitutes uses up lots of land, which much deforestation being done to plant more and more soya. A lot of people think that vegetarians thus use up as much land as meat eaters. it's a contentious issue, to be sure.

It's interesting what you say about hall food, I found that when I moved into halls, it was incredably hard to remain a vegan. I lost a lot of weight, got pretty ill, and basically became a vegetarian. I have no morals

I'm not sure where this whole "you have to eat meat to be healthy" idea comes from. Humans are particularly unsuited to eating meat. For one thing, our intestineal tracts are a lot longer than that of carnivourous animals, meaning that we retain a lot of undesirable elements of meat that a carnivourous animal would have excreted long ago. Also, if we are to look at our closest living reletive, the chimpanzee, we see that meat constitutes approximately 2% of their diet. Anything more, for chimps or humans is particularly unhealthy. There's a reason that vegetarians on average live for several years longer than meat eaters, and have greatly reduced risk of ailments such as heart desiese and appendicitis.

[Ed Oscuro]

I can't wait until we get "test tube" meat. Should be highly efficient for land use and without a nervous system you don't have stressed out animals to deal with (less antibiotic use required, of course the lack of a digestive system and a clean environment also leads to this)

[shoe-sama]

btw some of the vegan stuff is incredibly disgusting lol

"soy cheese"

man its like trying to make cheese out of water or blood or some other liquid

disgusting

[iatneH]

For every animal you don't eat, I'm going to eat three.

Though that would be a bit excessive. I would rather eat a balanced meal than a huge slab of meat though, my tiny Chinese body is not built to handle it.

Wow, shoe is in university? I would never have guessed.

[Damocles]

But....but....but cows are so delicious.

[Frederik]

I was one when I was maybe 16, mostly because I thought it was cool and "anti" in a way - back then it was a surefire way to get some attention. But I used to sneak into the kitchen to eat slices of salami every two months or so, thinking "Damn, back to zero again".

Now I enjoy the occasional sausage, not so much actual slabs of meat. I respect the noble motivations behind vegetarism, though I don´t like the "I am a cleaner human than you" attitude SOME of them have (yes, I know a couple of vegetarians). Then again, I don´t like ascetic behaviour at all - if you don´t eat meat, fine, but at times it seems that vegetarians are spending considerable amounts of time each day thinking this whole business.

In general, it would be much better if all of the heavy meat eaters cut down their meat intake so that we don´t brutalize the planet as much as we do now than having some strict vegetarians annoy meat eaters each times they eat some. Not eating food I WOULD like to eat because it is against my set of morals is a stress I don´t need in my life. It just reeks of self-righteousness and pseudo-religion to me sometimes. But again, I respect vegetarism in general.

tl;dr Not eating meat is cool as long as you don´t define yourself over that and rub it into everybodys face. (Veganism is too radical for me, though.)

One of my friends described what they do to animals at factory farms and it's pretty horrifying

I don´t know about how the stores are stocked where you live, but there is also organic meat which is usually from animals that were treated MUCH better, and isn´t full of antibiotics and all that stuff.

[MathU]

lol,vegetarians

[GaijinPunch]

I've been a fake vegetarian for about 12 years. I eat seafood, and if I'm hungry enough, I'll simply remove the meat myself. I quit for a lot of reasons, but mainly b/c of the strain heavy meat consumption put on my body. Took me ages to take a shit back in those days.

[indstr]

One of my friends described what they do to animals at factory farms and it's pretty delicious. Eventually.

Fixed.

this made me LOL really hard. good job

[Etrian]

I don't enjoy eating a lot of meat. For example, chicken and other stuff directly off the bone, or steak. But I'll have a hamburger.

It really just depends on what I feel like eating.

[Neon]

Chickens raised to be eaten have their beaks and talons ripped off with pliers (w/no anaesthetic) and then live out the rest of their lives in constant pain from hormones, wallow in their own filth and are almost unable to move due to being kept in small cages. Whether you want to boycott meat or no, I don't understand how people can hear that and just not care. Yet there's a lot of animosity and contempt for the whole vegetarian thing. I guess it comes down to whether you care about big business making a profit (no matter how much cruelty is involved) versus supporting regulations (the organic shit or whatever) in order to make the proletariat's lives suck less. I guess I'm just a big fat socialist pussy.

[jpj]

if it's any consolation, i do purposefully buy free-range eggs

[Arvandor]

I'm enough of a carnivore that I don't think I could live as a vegetarian. And even assuming I could, it would make me a very unhappy human being. I mean... Bacon IS happiness. Steak also.

With that said, I'm losing my beer gut slow but sure merely with a half-assed low-cal diet (I still eat like shit, just a bit less), and a fair amount of exercise.

[JUX.Jaggsen]

Chickens raised to be eaten have their beaks and talons ripped off with pliers (w/no anaesthetic) and then live out the rest of their lives in constant pain from hormones, wallow in their own filth and are almost unable to move due to being kept in small cages.

Mechanically seperated meat... arousing!

[benstylus]

Chickens raised to be eaten have their beaks and talons ripped off with pliers (w/no anaesthetic) and then live out the rest of their lives in constant pain from hormones, wallow in their own filth and are almost unable to move due to being kept in small cages. Whether you want to boycott meat or no, I don't understand how people can hear that and just not care. Yet there's a lot of animosity and contempt for the whole vegetarian thing. I guess it comes down to whether you care about big business making a profit (no matter how much cruelty is involved) versus supporting regulations (the organic shit or whatever) in order to make the proletariat's lives suck less. I guess I'm just a big fat socialist pussy.

The answer to that is that big business will make a profit regardless of what regulations are imposed.

Any additional cost to raise the animals will be passed on to the consumer.

Of course one could argue that a dramatic increase in the price of meat could leat to a dramatic decrease in the demand of meat, and more people become vegetarian.

On the other hand, it's also quite possible that the government would simply intervene and keep prices down through incentives and tax breaks for the meat makers (much like they do for the grain growers right now).