shmups in hd?

Hardstepah · Post by **Hardstepah** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:34 pm

so whats the best way to get the best picture on my import ps2? i have an s-video cable connected to my 1080p lcd, looks way pixelated tho, any other types of connections i can use other than s-video to smooth it out?

subcons · Post by **subcons** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:50 pm

D-terminal, or maybe a homemade scart cable. You'd need some sort of converter like an XRGB-3 to hook it up though.

I don't think there are any other options for the PS2, but if there is, I'm sure someone here knows.

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:12 am

Any of the released XRGBs will work:

XRGB-1

XRGB-2

XRGB-2+

and the

XRGB-3

If you can find an Microcom produced XRGB-2+ upscan convertor, it comes with an Component Video to Japanese 21-pin RGB adapter -- the easiest way to get your PS2 looking sharp on your HD LCD monitor. So all you'd need is a PS2 Component Video cable setup and you're all set... ^_~

There is an XRGB-2+ for sale in the Trading Section courtesy of fellow shmupper, Specineff:

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=19940

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

ubersaurus · Post by **ubersaurus** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:35 pm

Aren't there PS2 component cables?

subcons · Post by **subcons** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:01 pm

ubersaurus wrote:Aren't there PS2 component cables?

There are, but the PS2 doesn't handle high resolutions like that on its own. You need some sort of upscan converter, such as the XRGB.

Problem is, they tend to be a bit pricey plus you have to find someone that is selling theirs.

Daigohji · Post by **Daigohji** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:30 pm

Anyone tried this? It gets pretty mixed reviews, but it's a hell of a lot cheaper than an XRGB. Half the complaints seem to be about the picture being shrunk down when upscaled, but I don't know how well it handles just 480p.

exquisite_torture · Post by **exquisite_torture** » Thu May 01, 2008 12:38 am

Daigohji wrote:Anyone tried this? It gets pretty mixed reviews, but it's a hell of a lot cheaper than an XRGB. Half the complaints seem to be about the picture being shrunk down when upscaled, but I don't know how well it handles just 480p.

I have that. I picked it up in GAME for 98p. Don't expect miracles. It's noticably better than SCART. The best res you can expect is 576p.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Thu May 01, 2008 10:17 am

try component.... even without a xrgb my tv looked all right. but it's gonna vary wildy from tv to tv. what brand of tv is it?

but really the only way to go is an xrgb with HD TVs

Hardstepah · Post by **Hardstepah** » Sat May 03, 2008 5:26 am

Strider77 wrote:try component.... even without a xrgb my tv looked all right. but it's gonna vary wildy from tv to tv. what brand of tv is it?

but really the only way to go is an xrgb with HD TVs

ok got it. its a 46 inch Samsung 650 lcd with the 120hz, i hooked up a friends ps3 and its incredible. gradius V looks fairly sharp on it to begin with but DDP DOJ and ESPGaluda looks VERY pixilated.

Chi_Ryu · Post by **Chi_Ryu** » Sat May 03, 2008 8:11 am

PC Engine Fan X! wrote:XRGB-3

Warning: the X-RGB3 introduces a non-trivial amount of lag (but on the plus side, does support 1920x1200 and DVI out). Buy at your own risk (I did, and regret it).

The 2 and 2+ are great, though.

PC Engine Fan X! wrote:If you can find an Microcom

ITYM Micomsoft ;p

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Sat May 03, 2008 8:52 am

DDP DOJ and ESPGaluda looks VERY pixilated.

It will always look that way unless you use an XRGB for 2D. Really with HD it's just the way it goes. Well for someone who sees DDP and ESP playing on a HD TV via a PS3 it is.

Even with an XRGB if you are using LCD, you have to worry about he TV's ability to scale 480p. Most seem to a fine job these days. Either way it should be no worse than the PS3 lag wise (Some swear there is but I can't say I notice it myself, none that screw me up while playing). Not unless your TV is older model wise.

I hate my HDTV for 2D (low res) unless it's through that XRGB, one of the best buys I've made.