Underrated Shmups ?

Rob79 · Post by **Rob79** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:52 am

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:04 am

My thoughts - nobody may care but you're getting them anyway:

Cyvern - the hitbox on this game screws me up always. I'd rather be playing a Strikers game.

Air Gallet: Don't let it take off! Good stuff. I think I want to buy this board sometime.

Eco Fighters: This one has a Gleylancer-like rotating ball thing, right? Hate those.

Kyukyoku Tiger 2: I'm still working on my highscore for this game. I usually enjoy it, but it's not very balanced - the Blue Smasher is complete crap, the default red weapon does poor damage but allows you to consistently leave the stage 1 midboss with ~90K points, and the green one kills everything, sometimes too quickly (move off to the side and hit the enemies with the homing missiles for more points). The bomb & powerup setting is also pretty lol, as that is basically the only scoring mechanic that matters. From what I can tell, the rank of importance for scoring is: stacking bombs & powerups (and not dying ever) > killing bosses > collecting stars.

Macross Plus: Nonplussed by this game when I last played it.

Varth: Too many stages o_O

Viper Phase 1: 1 popcorn enemy missed = bonus cleaved in twain

XII Stag: Don't have, can't play. That demo player sucks though. Whenever there's an enemy that shoots a harmless shot spread out to the sides, I go straight to the middle...

For my part, I think the first two Raiden Fighters games are somewhat underappreciated. Not a whole lot going on scoring-wise, but the medal mechanic is easier and makes for relatively lo-stress playing compared to RFJ (restart restart restart)

deddonpachi · Post by **deddonpachi** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:10 am

I think the milestone shmups are uderrated! I really like especially Karous and Radirgy.

louisg · Post by **louisg** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:21 am

Ed Oscuro wrote:For my part, I think the first two Raiden Fighters games are somewhat underappreciated. Not a whole lot going on scoring-wise, but the medal mechanic is easier and makes for relatively lo-stress playing compared to RFJ (restart restart restart)

I tend to think maybe the first RF is. It seemed to suffer from less feature creep than the later installments (who needs 20 ships to choose from?).

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:45 am

Yes, the first one is the one I play the most now. Though I should probably try to improve my RFJ score, heh.

Marcel1CC · Post by **Marcel1CC** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:09 am

XII Stag is very bad in my opinion.

underrated shmups are trizeal (cool oldschool shoot em up wihout big mistakes or something like that) and radirgy (great scoresystem and nice cellshade graphics. love it!)

henry dark · Post by **henry dark** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:01 am

Is Blazing Star underrated?

Herr Schatten · Post by **Herr Schatten** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:09 am

henry dark wrote:Is Blazing Star underrated?

No way, it's overrated.

Hulkcore · Post by **Hulkcore** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:19 am

DonPachi

henry dark · Post by **henry dark** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:30 am

Herr Schatten wrote:
henry dark wrote:Is Blazing Star underrated?
No way, it's overrated.

HEY POOR PLAYER

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:13 am

deddonpachi wrote:I think the milestone shmups are uderrated! I really like especially Karous and Radirgy.

I really like Radirgy, but Karous not so much. It's the unwanted red headed stepchild to Radirgy.

I think Triggerheart Exelica is grossly underappretiated. I really have tons of fun with that game. I don't understand people's problems with it at all.

ARCADIA · Post by **ARCADIA** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:15 am

Dangerous Seed & Nebulas Ray

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:18 am

Psikyo (all). They were the best and not acknowledged as such.

Plasmo · Post by **Plasmo** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:30 am

Warning: Opinion!

-Last Hope is horribly underrated.
-Also I think Donpachi is at least twice as good as Dodonpachi.

Herr Schatten · Post by **Herr Schatten** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:37 am

Arvandor wrote:I really like Radirgy, but Karous not so much.

Plasmo wrote:Also I think Donpachi is at least twice as good as Dodonpachi.

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:43 am

Also I think Donpachi is at least twice as good as Dodonpachi.

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:55 am

I give XII Stag a 8/10.
It's very, very cool shmup.

henry dark · Post by **henry dark** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:52 am

I think Donpachi is three times as good as Dodonpachi.

Udderdude · Post by **Udderdude** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:58 am

I played XII Stag once. The first level almost put me to sleep, and then a ship came out of nowhere from behind and rammed into me. That was the end of my XII Stag career. :S

Marcel1CC · Post by **Marcel1CC** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:03 am

Udderdude wrote:I played XII Stag once. The first level almost put me to sleep, and then a ship came out of nowhere from behind and rammed into me. That was the end of my XII Stag career. :S

haha, same here

HardcoreOtaku · Post by **HardcoreOtaku** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:09 am

I think Radiant Silvergun, Ikaruga, Gradius V and all the Cave Shmups are highly underrated.

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:41 am

Also I think Donpachi is at least twice as good as Dodonpachi.

You're kidding me, right? Donpachi is slower paced, easier, and less interesting than Super Star Soldier (which I love, just by the way) until like what, stage 5?

You guys have lost all rights to complaining about how sedate and boring touhou games are =P Donpachi? Fucking seriously? I actually had to pop it in and play it again just to make sure I wasn't missing something... And... I wasn't...

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:15 pm

Zeberdeey wrote:
Udderdude wrote:I played XII Stag once. The first level almost put me to sleep, and then a ship came out of nowhere from behind and rammed into me. That was the end of my XII Stag career. :S
haha, same here

Noobs

Post by **Shatterhand** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:24 pm

There's an arcade near my workplace with a Macross Plus cab. That thing is extremely annoyingly cheap. It has the biggest amount of point-blank shots per minute in the shmup history. And also it has a big number of "Shots that come from nowhere because the enemy ship shooting it was out ot the screen" cases.

I do play a few credits there sometimes, but as I found another arcade nearby which actually has GIGAWING, I didn't feel like going there anymore

FIL · Post by **FIL** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:27 pm

XII Stag is ok but a little too dependent on the waggle and butt fire for scoring.

Post by **spadgy** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:35 pm

I think the Psyvariar games are a little underrated - I loves 'em.

kozo · Post by **kozo** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:01 pm

FIL wrote:the waggle and butt fire

hoohoohoohoo.

(has yet to try XII Stag, will be shortly though.)

ForceDevice · Post by **ForceDevice** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:43 pm

Donpachi is a million times better than DDP. Not that being better than DDP means much though.

Also, I loved Chaos Field, maybe because my expectations were so low... and Sol Divide isn't the absolutely worthless stinking piece of the worst kind of crap everyone says it is. I actually liked it a lot.

Vincere · Post by **Vincere** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:05 pm

I'm waiting for some serious arguments leaning towards DP>DDP because I personnaly find DP to be pure and premium shit.

ForceDevice · Post by **ForceDevice** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:32 pm

Vincere wrote:I'm waiting for some serious arguments leaning towards DP>DDP because I personnaly find DP to be pure and premium shit.

DP = cool music, chain system is there but it's extremely easy to ignore and it's neither frustrating nor heavily based on memorization;

DDP = worst soundtrack I've ever heard in a video game, and that alone would be enough reason to like DP better. But there's also the whole "chain your ass out" thing, which ruins all the fun I could possibly have with it.

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