If I Suck At Most Of The Bullet Hells, Should I Buy ESPg?

ilike2game · Post by **ilike2game** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:21 am

I was looking to get ESPgaluda, because I am a collector and I love the genre, but I am nowhere near as good as probably any on this site. Any ideas if I should buy this game or not? Will it be hard to find and is it a game where practice will get me nice at it?

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:29 am

if you aren't good at the game the angry stares of a million cash-poor ubergamers will bore deep into your soul

Seriously, what's the problem? If you can enjoy a game whilst sucking at it (like I do), then get it.

ilike2game · Post by **ilike2game** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:51 am

well I just wanna make sure its a good game as well, I don't wanna get stuck with like a Last Hope (expensive rare game that sucks). I enjoy the hell out of ikaruga and triggerheart and I suck, lol. So if you all think this is an enjoyable game and worth it, I don't mind picking it up. Is this hard to come by at all?

overkill55 · Post by **overkill55** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:56 am

Not especially hard to come by, though if you want it complete it will cost you $100+ in most cases

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:02 am

First off, I must say, if you're not having fun, you're doing it wrong. Being good or sucking ass aren't necessarily a factor (though for some people it might be... Not for me though, I love these games, and I too suck utterly).

Anyways, if you're not good at shooters, particularly manics, all the more reason to pick up ESPgaluda. It's hailed as Cave's most accessible shooter, and is the perfect manic to cut your teeth on, so to speak.

ilike2game · Post by **ilike2game** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:06 am

cool, I ordered it, thanks for the info and quick responses

Udderdude · Post by **Udderdude** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:27 am

ESPGaluda is great. You can't not like it. Seems you allready ordered it, but just throwing in my 2c :p

clp · Post by **clp** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:20 pm

if you suck so much at shooters why dont you find one you really enjoy and stick with it and practice until you improve?

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:28 pm

clp wrote:if you suck so much at shooters why dont you find one you really enjoy and stick with it and practice until you improve?

he just did

ForceDevice · Post by **ForceDevice** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:31 pm

ESPGaluda is great indeed. Can't think of a better way to start practicing at manic shooters. Infinite continues, a scoring system that's easy to get used to, simple bullet patterns with big gaps between them, auto-bombing when you're on Kakusei Mode... it's just a great game to practice and become better and better at the genre. Besides, it's good-looking, the soundtrack rocks and the character designs are fantastic.

But be warned: it starts off really easy (compared to most of the other stuff, at least), but around the last level it becomes a big challenge even to more skilled players. And the last boss is a pain in the ass. >_>

Seems you allready ordered it, but just throwing in my 2c :p

henry dark · Post by **henry dark** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:19 pm

Espgaluda will teach you how to play maniac shooters.

One of the best games ever made.

Etrian · Post by **Etrian** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:02 pm

Pad or stick, black or white, rain or shine, ESP Galuda is worth it. Although it wasn't what I started with, it's a fun game and worth playing.

I don't play it as much as my other Cave games, however.

Ruldra · Post by **Ruldra** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:22 pm

henry dark wrote:Espgaluda will teach you how to play maniac shooters.

I'd say Mushi Arrange is more effective on that part. Auto-bomb will really give you the confidence needed to dodge bullets.

Well, I guess Kakusei mode can archieve that too...

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:27 pm

I find autobomber features can make you somewhat blasé about dodging bullets. A lot of the time when playing in Mushi Arrange and Blue Wish resurrection, I find myself lurching into bullet storms without really looking for a way out, because technically I have like 12 starting chances to complete the game.

Manual bombing helps you to play in a more cautious style, that can later be refined for scoring play once the safest routes have been guaged.

Just my 2p.

Mortificator · Post by **Mortificator** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:51 pm

I've never used it, but if auto could keep new players from panic bombing every time they see a tough pattern it'd be a good thing.

Chi_Ryu · Post by **Chi_Ryu** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:32 pm

Arvandor wrote:It's hailed as Cave's most accessible shooter

In terms of difficulty, *Second* most accessible shooter, nowadays (thanks to Death Smiles)... unless you mean accessible in terms of easiest (and cheapest) to get hold of XD

But yeah, echoing the others, Espgaluda is a class game.

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:21 pm

Chi_Ryu wrote:
Arvandor wrote:It's hailed as Cave's most accessible shooter
In terms of difficulty, *Second* most accessible shooter, nowadays (thanks to Death Smiles)... unless you mean accessible in terms of easiest (and cheapest) to get hold of XD

But yeah, echoing the others, Espgaluda is a class game.

Haha, those newer Cave games don't exist to us regular folks, even Ketsui is a mythological artifact!

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:36 pm

hope you enjoy the game

henry dark · Post by **henry dark** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:33 pm

Ruldra wrote:
henry dark wrote:Espgaluda will teach you how to play maniac shooters.
I'd say Mushi Arrange is more effective on that part. Auto-bomb will really give you the confidence needed to dodge bullets.

Well, I guess Kakusei mode can archieve that too...

That could work too, although the auto-bombing arrange doesn't prepare you for the stress of Maniac so well (you start more powered up than its possible to be in the main game too, so it wouldn't really give you practice dodging all the boss patterns as they die too quickly)

yyr · Post by **yyr** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:04 pm

Just throwing out another recommendation where it isn't necessary.

I suck at most bullet hell games (I can't finish Mushi Arrange, for example, and can't even pass stage 3 of either Ibara or DOJ). But I have more fun with Galuda than I've had with most games...in any genre. The gameplay system is fantastic, the music and graphics are top-notch, and the scoring isn't impossible for even mere mortals like myself to pull off. Plus, I can actually reach the final boss. =)

ForceDevice · Post by **ForceDevice** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:25 pm

yyr wrote: I suck (...)

(I can't even pass stage 3 of (...) DOJ).

Not a good example.

Post by **Shatterhand** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:27 pm

Ibara isn't a good example either, I find it harder than DOJ.

henry dark · Post by **henry dark** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:50 pm

Shatterhand wrote:Ibara isn't a good example either, I find it harder than DOJ.

Yes! Good grief yes.

Although, I think Gunbird 2 is harder than DOJ too

ForceDevice · Post by **ForceDevice** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:12 am

ANYTHING by Raizing/Yagawa is harder than DOJ... or at least I suck more at it than DOJ. lol

Damn those background-bullets.

evil_ash_xero · Post by **evil_ash_xero** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:56 pm

Shatterhand wrote:Ibara isn't a good example either, I find it harder than DOJ.

You know, for some reason, I am MUCH better at Ibara than a lot of other Cave titles. I don't have any idea why. I'm mince meat in DOJ. I guess I just play Ibara enough to get decent at it. I've noticed since I de-interlaced it that I have an easier time seeing the bullets and dodging them, so that's helped.

But on topic, yes, you should get ESP Galuda. It is genuinely the best game to cut your teeth on for manics. It even has a "slow down" ability that will allow you to put all the bullets in slow motion for a limited amount of time. Very helpful for someone new and/or trying to improve at the genre. And it is a very fun game.

Enjoy.

s/m

ilike2game · Post by **ilike2game** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:04 pm

I'll post my review of it when I get it on my blog

Post by **Shatterhand** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:38 pm

evil_ash_xero wrote:
Shatterhand wrote:Ibara isn't a good example either, I find it harder than DOJ.
You know, for some reason, I am MUCH better at Ibara than a lot of other Cave titles. I don't have any idea why. I'm mince meat in DOJ. I guess I just play Ibara enough to get decent at it. I've noticed since I de-interlaced it that I have an easier time seeing the bullets and dodging them, so that's helped.

You maybe click better with Raizing games than Cave ones. Athoulgh to be quit honest, I do play Batrider, Garegga and Bakraid a lot better than any Cave game, and Ibara still kicks my ass

Matsunaga · Post by **Matsunaga** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:12 pm

ESPGaluda is a must-buy, it's now my 2nd favorite shooter (behind DDP). It looks so damn good, the scoring system is different and fun, and even if you're mediocre like me you can get pretty far into it with a little practice.

Ibara or Mushihime is next on my list, not sure which to buy..

budloc · Post by **budloc** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:33 am

ESP Galuda is perfect to begin with manic shooters, awesome scoring system, the game is "easy" (for a Cave game) so it is not as frustrating as DDP DOJ for example.

Clearly the best PS2 shooter with Gradius V on the ps2 IMHO.

bostongeorge · Post by **bostongeorge** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:25 am

I'm not exactly just getting into manic shmups, but I think I'm going to make ESPgaluda my first 1cc.

I've put a decent amount of time into Shikigami 2 and Triggerheart Exelica but never got a 1cc in either. (Level 3 in THE and 3-1 in Shikigami 2) And I've played a TON of other shmups less seriously.

I think I'm gonna play ESPgaluda exclusively for a while and stick with it, and hopefully I can make some decent progress.

shmups.system11.org

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