IGN puts out another "Top 10 Shoot 'Em Ups" list

jp · Post by jp » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:12 am

http://retro.ign.com/articles/865/865346p1.html

Difference is, this time its actually a pretty damn GOOD list. I mean, like, its better than the ones shmups.com typically generates.

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:15 am

WRONG:
Fantasy Zone
Axelay
Space Invaders
Star Wars: The Arcade Game
M.U.S.H.A.
Lightening Force
River Raid
Radiant Silvergun

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:18 am

MUSHA "requires lightning reflexes and good pattern memorization, especially when you confront the game's numerous screen-sized bosses."

Nice vintage EGM on the end there.

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:29 am

You'll be running on pure adrenaline by the time you reach the absolutely massive castle boss.

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:37 am

I suppose "classic" shoot'em ups is to distiguish them from "modern" ones (DOOM)?

edit: who wrote this top ten? The IGN guy who cannot pronounce Ikaruga?

Anyway, yes, it has Compile in the top ten. We don't make such a good chart since 2003.

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:40 am

I heard Radiant Silvergun has 500 power levels... FOR EACH WEAPON!!

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:44 am

That's because it's the thinking man's shooter.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:48 am

Where else are you going to find

smart controls

Like when you push on the d-pad and the ship moves, or you hit a button to fire. You can even press two buttons at once to do something that can be accomplished with one.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:01 am

JoshF wrote:WRONG:
Fantasy Zone
Axelay
Space Invaders
Star Wars: The Arcade Game
M.U.S.H.A.
Lightening Force
River Raid
Radiant Silvergun

Exactly.

kengou · Post by **kengou** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:01 am

I was surprised they included Dodonpachi, and also that they DIDN'T include Ikaruga.

And their top 10 list had like 2 or 3 actually good games out of the 10. I'd hardly call that a good list.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:05 am

If you're going to let one 16-bit console shooter in it should be Lightening Force. Credit for that, and also not picking TF3.

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:16 am

I'd replace the non-shmup Star Wars with something like Salamander. Or Gradius V. Then I could use it.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:29 am

Turrican wrote:I'd replace the non-shmup Star Wars with something like Salamander. Or Gradius V. Then I could use it.

One problem. Gradius V isn't retro, which is what that section is about. DoDonPachi and Radiant Silvergun could be debatable in terms of being "retro" as well.

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:03 am

well, as retro as a 2004 title can possibly be (of course that's a compliment)

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:08 am

DoDonPachi and Radiant Silvergun could be debatable in terms of being "retro" as well.

Guys, I can't think of a tenth game, quick what's something popular I can throw in there to increase my cred!?

henry dark · Post by **henry dark** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:28 am

Zebra Airforce wrote:
DoDonPachi and Radiant Silvergun could be debatable in terms of being "retro" as well.
Guys, I can't think of a tenth game, quick what's something popular I can throw in there to increase my cred!?

In The Hunt

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:30 am

is it me or these things come out always when we're doing our annual poll? I remember last year something similar popped up around this time.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:30 am

Zanac Neo should be the new top 10 list secret handshake.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:34 am

More Top Ten lists = more pages to put ads o-excuse me, more content

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:41 am

What the fuck is River Raid?

Macaw · Post by **Macaw** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:46 am

GaijinPunch wrote:What the fuck is River Raid?

a piece of shit

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:51 am

GaijinPunch wrote:What the fuck is River Raid?

A game I keep confusing with Raid on Bungeling Bay, which at least spawned Sim City

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:28 am

i was surprised that they didn't just put einhander for all ten entries

or put gradius V 20 times

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:33 am

Einhander is awesome, shut up.

Outtake!

3) Desert Strike: Return to the Gulf

The first entry in the all-too-forgotten Electronic Arts Strike series, Desert Strike puts you in the cockpit of an AH-64 Apache helicopter -- keep an eye on your fuel! Representing western developers magnificently with its unique multi-directional mission-based objectives, this gritty war shooter has originality in spades. It's been released on every available gaming platform of its day and a few after, now if only Nintendo will answer our prayers and add this gem to their shooter-friendly VC roster.

evil_ash_xero · Post by **evil_ash_xero** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:50 am

GaijinPunch wrote:What the fuck is River Raid?

Man, that game was my childhood addiction. I used to have to hide the cartridge under my mattress so no one would get to it before I did and hog the TV.

s/m

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:03 am

Macaw wrote:
GaijinPunch wrote:What the fuck is River Raid?
a piece of shit

No, RR rocks.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:04 am

Rob wrote:Outtake!
3) Desert Strike: Return to the Gulf

The first entry in the all-too-forgotten Electronic Arts Strike series, Desert Strike puts you in the cockpit of an AH-64 Apache helicopter -- keep an eye on your fuel! Representing western developers magnificently with its unique multi-directional mission-based objectives, this gritty war shooter has originality in spades. It's been released on every available gaming platform of its day and a few after, now if only Nintendo will answer our prayers and add this gem to their shooter-friendly VC roster.

Genius. I've got a thrift store found copy of the game, never bothered starting it up.

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:02 am

Ed Oscuro wrote:
Rob wrote:Outtake!
3) Desert Strike: Return to the Gulf

The first entry in the all-too-forgotten Electronic Arts Strike series, Desert Strike puts you in the cockpit of an AH-64 Apache helicopter -- keep an eye on your fuel! Representing western developers magnificently with its unique multi-directional mission-based objectives, this gritty war shooter has originality in spades. It's been released on every available gaming platform of its day and a few after, now if only Nintendo will answer our prayers and add this gem to their shooter-friendly VC roster.
Genius. I've got a thrift store found copy of the game, never bothered starting it up.

I found Desert Strike and Jungle Strike for the Genesis at a yardsale and I barely played them. I need to give them a play. I was also giving a PC collection with Necular Strike for free. I couldn't get Necular Strike working on my laptop, though.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:05 am

BrianC wrote:
Ed Oscuro wrote:
Rob wrote:Outtake!
Genius. I've got a thrift store found copy of the game, never bothered starting it up.
I found Desert Strike and Jungle Strike for the Genesis at a yardsale and I barely played them. I need to give them a play. I was also giving a PC collection with Necular Strike for free. I couldn't get Necular Strike working on my laptop, though.

You should both be flogged for not playing the 16bit 'Strike' games after owning them for as long as you have. They're fun.

As for Nuclear Strike, good luck with that one BrainC. I've yet to find anyting about how to get it to run on XP. Good thing there's a PS1 version (which I own).

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:54 am

Bizarro World D.C.!

It looks like a nice day but the Washington Monument looks like a tee stuck in a golf green in there. Plus the buildings nearby don't resemble some Middle Eastern hovel.

(Yes, this is Jugnle Strike; that might be the one I have.)

ShiryuGL's Desert Strike video has a comment I liked:

Well a game can shine like the nob to a whore house, doesn't make the gameplay as great as what nes, snes and sega layed down.