IGN reviewer can't play or pronounce Ikaruga

[kengou]

The review of Ikaruga on XBLA is up on IGN. Take a look:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/864/864903p1.html

It's funny to note that the guy can't pronounce Ikaruga and all clips of him playing are just terrible. And the comments have the inevitable "it's only 30 minutes long, why waste money on it" posts. But at least they mention the chaining, which most reviews don't. And they mention Tate.

[Etrian]

That was actually a pretty good review. He mentions how it isn't for casual players and the difficulty, the different modes and functions of the game.

Sure, he can't pronounce the game correctly, so what?

[themachinist]

Ikarumba!

[Ed Oscuro]

eye-gouge-a-roogah (edit: haha yeah he says it like that, after all)

He got the first mora wrong (I THINKS), eh so whut

[jp]

I've never encountered in real life that COULD pronounce Ikaruga correctly.

Well, that wasn't from Japan anyways.

[henry dark]

Graddyus

[FIL]

Darius Gayden

[Arvandor]

I've never encountered in real life that COULD pronounce Ikaruga correctly.

Well, that wasn't from Japan anyways.

I even know how phoenetic Japanese is, am fully capable of pronouncing Ikaruga correctly, but say it the way it looks to an American.

I know it's technically Ee Kah Roo Gah, but I always call it Ick Ah Roo Gah. Huge difference, I know, but for those of you who know Japanese, I'm sure you will be able to hear the gaijin who almost knows Japanese inflection to the second pronunciation =P

[Etrian]

I pronounce it like this: "E - car - roo - gah", I'm sure the "roo" is meant to be pronounced as "du" because those crazy japs have odd ways of saying things.. oh well.

[henry dark]

I pronounce it like this: "E - car - roo - gah", I'm sure the "roo" is meant to be pronounced as "du" because those crazy japs have odd ways of saying things.. oh well.

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[evil_ash_xero]

I've always pronounced it "EE Ka Ru Gah". I guess i've seen enough Japanese media to realize that "I" is usually pronounced "ee".

I have to say the guy gave it it's props, so he's cool with me. It is truly a classic.

s/m

[shoe-sama]

I CALL IT IKA

[icycalm]

I even know how phoenetic Japanese is, am fully capable of pronouncing Ikaruga correctly, but say it the way it looks to an American.

I know it's technically Ee Kah Roo Gah, but I always call it Ick Ah Roo Gah. Huge difference, I know, but for those of you who know Japanese, I'm sure you will be able to hear the gaijin who almost knows Japanese inflection to the second pronunciation =P

The above two paragraphs make no sense, fyi.

[iatneH]

It's funny to note that the guy can't pronounce Ikaruga and all clips of him playing are just terrible. And the comments have the inevitable "it's only 30 minutes long, why waste money on it" posts. But at least they mention the chaining, which most reviews don't. And they mention Tate.

So the common peoples don't appreciate shooters. What else is new?

I don't think I even bother getting riled up about it anymore.

[henry dark]

Christ, you do realise he gave the game a NINE and praised it to high heavens right?

So he pronounced it wrong? WHO GIVES A SHIT

[icycalm]

Heh.

I see we have yet to realize that a higher rating does not equal a higher degree of appreciation.

Just as there are wrong reasons for condemning something, there are wrong reasons for praising something. In the end, the condemnation or praise are not important. The reasons are.

[Etrian]

I pronounce it like this: "E - car - roo - gah", I'm sure the "roo" is meant to be pronounced as "du" because those crazy japs have odd ways of saying things.. oh well.

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[grovsnus]

In my country, manufacturing reasons for other people's actions is a female trait.

[Dante]

I'v not read all the comments yet, would imagine alll the kids will say it's to easy and they completed it on there first go by credit feeding credit feeding it.. Totally ignoring the fact that chaining every level for 100 % would take forever

[Ed Oscuro]

In my country, using the royal "we" when not referring to yourself is considered odd.

Icycalm's post is logical and correct, however.

But for this - IGN doesn't give away strat guides for games for free, and that's not the purpose of their reviews anyway. Sure, the reviewer isn't as familiar with the game as we might like, but for a $10 rerelease learning the game comprehensively isn't a top priority. It really has everything against it - cheap, rerelease, niche product. I bet they've only thrown in a video because it's pretty and likely stands well enough on its own merits. What's more, not only is the reviewer likely to be unfamiliar with shmups, but so (it must be assumed by IGN staff) the average person coming to the site will be as well.

[icycalm]

In my country, manufacturing reasons for other people's actions is a female trait.

You are not understanding what I am saying, smartypants.

By 'reasons', I mean the ways in which one justifies his praise or condemnation. For example, one expert reviewer may praise Ibara for its ruthless rank control system whereas another may condemn it for the same reason. The important thing is not whether they praise or condemn the game because of the rank control system -- but that they understand it.

The IGN reviewer is praising the game for the wrong reasons. Graphics, sound, or whatever. His review is worthless -- regardless of the rating. The rating is merely a reflection of the opinion of the game he thinks his readers will have. He is merely pandering to the tastes of his audience -- instead of challenging them (and therefore molding them), which is what good critics do.

[jpj]

the reader, ultimately, decides if a review is good or bad.

for myself, i don't care about other people's opinions. so a good review is something that tells me a lot about the game and contains a lot of (useful) information. someone getting on their soapbox doesn't interest me.

the guy covered all the basics. it's nice and concise. and you've got some images and a video as well. personally, i think these are excellent in reviews because you can watch the gameplay for a short while and immediately have an idea on whether you'll like the game or not. a video of someone playing it is much more useful to me than reading someone's (biased) opinion, but this is the best of both worlds.

if this review was your first point of contact with ikaruga, i think you'd find it a useful read.

the opening post comes across a bit elitist
so what if he's not that good at it?
i've got 26m on ika, and i don't pronounce it correctly either

[icycalm]

for myself, i don't care about other people's opinions. so a good review is something that tells me a lot about the game and contains a lot of (useful) information.

That is not a review. It is a description. A review is an opinion, a judgement. Nothing more, nothing less. No one ever a won a Pulitzer prize for criticism by parroting Wikipedia.

someone getting on their soapbox doesn't interest me.

Then reviews don't interest you.



People hardly get more unintellectual than you, jpj. You've made yourself at home right at the bottom of the barrel.

[moozooh]

I liked the written part of the review. Short and informative, without much idle talk or any other stupid shit.

[jpj]

That is not a review. It is a description.

it is a review as soon as you stick a number on the end.

some trolling remarks...

[henry dark]

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The IGN reviewer is praising the game for the wrong reasons. Graphics, sound, or whatever. His review is worthless -- regardless of the rating. The rating is merely a reflection of the opinion of the game he thinks his readers will have. He is merely pandering to the tastes of his audience -- instead of challenging them (and therefore molding them), which is what good critics do.

the 9.0 he gave the game has is probably done more to raise awareness of shooters in the west than anything in recent memory. But, oh no wait, he reviewed it wrong didn't he, I forgot

[JoshF]

You know what, I'm just glad Hillary "Metal Slug 3 is about as complex as 2 + 2" Goldstein didn't review the game.

[spadgy]

Ikarumba!

Me and a mate (one who never plays shmups) have used 'Ikaruga!' as a silly 'bloody hell!' type exclaimation ever since the first release, pronounced much how I imagine you'd pronounce 'Ikarumba!'.

It just sounds good to say as a daft, inoffensive expletive...

[icycalm]

But, oh no wait, he reviewed it wrong didn't he, I forgot

He never reviewed it. It is not possible to review a game which you can't even play. The most you can do then is copy the manual or Wikipedia.

it is a review as soon as you stick a number on the end.

How about if I stuck a number up your end. Would that make you a review?

[Acid King]

There will probably never be a better shooter on XBLA because Microsoft speared DOJ Black Label and Ketsui.