Ketsui worth the price?

Ligersknight · Post by **Ligersknight** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:06 pm

im thinking of buying my first pcb and arcade cab but is ketsui really worth 800-1000$? I have heard some very nice things about ketsui but what do you think?

drboom · Post by **drboom** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:25 pm

Yup. Check out Insomnia.ac's review.
http://insomnia.ac/reviews/custom/ketsui/

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:28 pm

Ketsui's a pretty great game, good soundtrack, short chains and is played best on a cab.

Be warned - its full on though. Its not a relaxing game.

Price used to be about $600 or less. Now there's Cave Madness, so don't bite the bullet for more than $800.

Plasmo · Post by **Plasmo** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:30 pm

It's definitely NOT worth that much IMO. Just wait for the port and buy it cheaper.

Kaiser · Post by **Kaiser** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:31 pm

Plasmo wrote:It's definitely NOT worth that much IMO. Just wait for the port and buy it cheaper.

Fuck ports, PCBs will be always superior experience

clp · Post by **clp** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:34 pm

Kaiser wrote:
Plasmo wrote:It's definitely NOT worth that much IMO. Just wait for the port and buy it cheaper.
Fuck ports, PCBs will be always superior experience

parting with hundreds of dollars more for one will always be a superior experience to ...........

Plasmo · Post by **Plasmo** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:35 pm

Fuck ports, PCBs will be always superior experience

Garegga, Mars Matrix, Border Down???

But even if the Ketsui port won't be such an awesome port, it'll be around $700 cheaper and that's the most important thing to me.

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:45 pm

And thats the point, $700 cheaper or $700 greater experience?

elfhentaifan · Post by **elfhentaifan** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:46 pm

Plasmo wrote:
Fuck ports, PCBs will be always superior experience
Garegga, Mars Matrix, Border Down???

But even if the Ketsui port won't be such an awesome port, it'll be around $700 cheaper and that's the most important thing to me.

luckily I am as rich as hell and i can afford a good ketsui pcb, instead of a port on console of microshit.

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:20 pm

It´s pretty hard to put a price on games, anyways. I mean, if you play Ketsui for the next five years, 800$ isn´t such a bad price.

Hey, while we´re at it, let´s link another Icycalm essay:
http://insomnia.ac/commentary/on_value_for_money/

In the end, you don´t really pay for a fixed good (like, a game with seven stages is worth more than a game with five stages) but for an experience. If you buy Ketsui and realize it´s THE best shooter you have ever played and you will play it until you hit the grave, then paying this much money isn´t bad. However, if you think it blows, then it´s obviously not.

And given that you can play certain shmups over and over and over (and then some) again, many games can have more substance than 30 RPGs combined.

Ligersknight · Post by **Ligersknight** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:37 pm

im not really GODLY or anyhing at shmups but im accually pretty bad at DDP i can only get to stage 4 on 1 credit does this make ketsui "not for me"?

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:57 pm

Ligersknight wrote:im not really GODLY or anyhing at shmups but im accually pretty bad at DDP i can only get to stage 4 on 1 credit does this make ketsui "not for me"?

my advice is get something easier then, Ketsui is worth every penny but it is hard as nails aswell, why not get DDP DOJ and when you can get to the last stage on that id say you have nice enough skills to enjoy ketsui aswell

charlie chong · Post by **charlie chong** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:07 pm

sven666 wrote:
Ligersknight wrote:im not really GODLY or anyhing at shmups but im accually pretty bad at DDP i can only get to stage 4 on 1 credit does this make ketsui "not for me"?
my advice is get something easier then, Ketsui is worth every penny but it is hard as nails aswell, why not get DDP DOJ and when you can get to the last stage on that id say you have nice enough skills to enjoy ketsui aswell

word ! i've only played ketsui for 2 afternoons when i met up with markedkiller and it almost seemed alienly hard to me at first.. i think on my first go i got to the 3rd boss on some flukey shit but that bugger didn't topple all afternoon.. i started picking it up a bit better on the 2nd afternoon tho and got to the 4th level finally! i just love the overwhelming feeling you get from this game... hopefully i'll get some more playtime soon.. it's deffo infinitely preferable to mushimesama ,espgaluda 2 and the newer cave games i.m.o

Ligersknight · Post by **Ligersknight** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:24 pm

sven666 wrote:
Ligersknight wrote:im not really GODLY or anyhing at shmups but im accually pretty bad at DDP i can only get to stage 4 on 1 credit does this make ketsui "not for me"?
my advice is get something easier then, Ketsui is worth every penny but it is hard as nails aswell, why not get DDP DOJ and when you can get to the last stage on that id say you have nice enough skills to enjoy ketsui aswell

that was the best idea i've heard in a long time

also considering the fact that im only 15 and Dodonpachi Daioujyo only costs 300-480$ max for the pcb thx

EDIT: also is www.coinopexpress.com a good place to buy from?

Shion · Post by **Shion** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:39 pm

Ligersknight wrote: that was the best idea i've heard in a long time also considering the fact that im only 15 and Dodonpachi Daioujyo only costs 300-480$ max for the pcb thx

EDIT: also is www.coinopexpress.com a good place to buy from?

Well, they're generally pretty overpriced. But with the dollar being so weak at the moment, it could be doable.

Plasmo · Post by **Plasmo** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:40 pm

If you want to buy DOJ then go with the ps2 port. It's one of those ports that's actually superior to the original.

ave · Post by **ave** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:40 pm

If you're into danmaku games, love Cave, love hammering soundtracks and a deep but simple score-system -> its worth it.

Regarding the approaching port though, I'd not buy the PCB before the console version was released. Or just buy the port.

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:40 pm

I think Ketsui was the first Cave game where I ever managed to get to stage three on my first ever credit. The same day i played mushi for the first time and died on the scorpion boss after panic bombing my way through the first boss

Then again, I've only ever played like 9 credits on Ketsui on just two seperate sesions. Beginners luck?

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:13 pm

you have a hell of a lot of disposable income for a 15 year old

i recommend taking up smoking, drinking, and/or crack cocaine

yeah, it's a good game

I'm Alec · Post by **I'm Alec** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:16 pm

yeah i'd say its worth it. can't think of any shooter i'd rather play. be warned though, it is balls-to-the-wall-tough.

PROMETHEUS · Post by **PROMETHEUS** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:23 pm

definitely buy the DOJ port instead of the PCB. It's not worth paying that much and ports are way superior for practicing thx to level select. And you can record replays more conveniently.

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:43 pm

So you don't have an import PS2 with DOJ, Epsgaluda etc. and yet you are prepared to spend 900 USD on a single game you have never even played?

LOL.

PS.
What is this, a "Look at me!"-topic?

PPS.
Porsches are nice. You should buy one now, even if you can't drive yet.

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:57 pm

MX7 wrote:I think Ketsui was the first Cave game where I ever managed to get to stage three on my first ever credit. The same day i played mushi for the first time and died on the scorpion boss after panic bombing my way through the first boss

Then again, I've only ever played like 9 credits on Ketsui on just two seperate sesions. Beginners luck?

I would guess that playing for score makes this game a lot harder (point blanking).

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:20 am

luckily I am as rich as hell and i can afford a good ketsui pcb, instead of a port on console of microshi

who is this douche bag?

doodude · Post by **doodude** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:09 am

Strider77 wrote:
luckily I am as rich as hell and i can afford a good ketsui pcb, instead of a port on console of microshi
who is this douche bag?

Steve Jobs illegitimate squirt!?

Imhotep · Post by **Imhotep** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:17 am

it's a great game. I sold it because of DOJ PS2, which is equally great at least.

Never_Scurred · Post by **Never_Scurred** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:22 pm

neorichieb1971 wrote:And thats the point, $700 cheaper or $700 greater experience?

Remember, this is a USED game we're talking about here. And by used, that means its prolly had several owners. Just something for the thread starter to take into consideration.

PROMETHEUS · Post by **PROMETHEUS** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:42 pm

neorichieb1971 wrote:And thats the point, $700 cheaper or $700 greater experience?

how about buying the PCB 50,000$ for a 50,000$ greater experience then ?!?!!

your sentence makes no sense at all lol

Keade · Post by **Keade** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:33 pm

The question is : is it worth the price for YOU ?
We cannot answer that question for you.

I wouldn't personnally put as much money on a game, because I wouldn't like to take the risk of the game losing value. I'm not on a hurry and prefer buying and playing lots of good old games for cheap than buying 70 euros for very recent games. Neither do I like spending too much on PC components which will lose value in little time, etc., but these are only personal choices.

Venom · Post by **Venom** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:37 pm

Still remember when it first came out and got a poor review. You could pick up a PCB for under 250 easily. Progear was more expensive than it...

Great game, is it worth the $? Matters. If it maintains value after the port, then you can easily recomp your money later on.