Any verts with people?

nem · Post by **nem** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:03 pm

There's Mystic Formula and Psycho Chaser on the PCE.

Post by **undamned** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:21 pm

Batlantis by Konami.
-ud

Mortificator · Post by **Mortificator** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:42 pm

Wow, thanks for all the replies. I've taken a spin in almost all the games listed now. Some stand out:

Hi no Tori
Feels like the father of Undeadline and Elemental Master. I think this and Aleste Gaiden are the only walking shmups where you can jump. I'll probably appreciate the game more when I figure out how to open the damn door.

Ninja Emaki
This game is completely insane. In a good way.

Gun.Smoke
Simple & fun, a la 1942.

Extermination
I didn't remember this game when I made the topic, but I've actually played it before. They say people block out horribly traumatic experiences.

SWAT
Doesn't fit in with the theme, but it's really fun and creative. SEGA!

Psycho Chaser
The MSX games have better backgrounds than this. The MSX1 games.

Fixeight
This is really from the guys who made Out Zone? They must have hit the bottle hard.

Undeadline, Elemental Master, Twinkle Tale
Like the light-orgy into to Twinkle Tale, these three fantasy walkers compete for dominance. For now, Elemental Master's the top.

Shatterhand wrote:Aleste Gaiden indeed isn't very hot (In spite of being very impressive on the technical side

Yeah, I thought Gaiden looked great (and it's a disk game), but as it went on (and on... and onnnnn.....) I saw how gimped it was compared to Zanac and Aleste.

MX7 wrote:If you're interested in borderliners (shock!) maybe you should consider something like Capcoms Mercs? It's a bit long in the tooth and has no scoring system to speak of, but it's a blast in 2 player.

No need to consider it, I played Mercs way back when.

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:14 pm

try and track down china vortex or mechanized samuiraizm...both doujin titles but they feature the whole robot/person running on the ground vert shmup feel you want....sadly no tate

and if you can find em you will need to switch your system settings to japanese.....wont run with applocale or non-unicode language settings....

awesome games

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:45 pm

Mortificator wrote:Hi no Tori
Feels like the father of Undeadline and Elemental Master. I think this and Aleste Gaiden are the only walking shmups where you can jump. I'll probably appreciate the game more when I figure out how to open the damn door.

Famicom or MSX? I believe they're very different games. Just got the FC version in the mail last week, incidentally :)

Also in the vein of Out Zone is Gundhara, by Banpresto. Maybe arcade only.

zero.otaku · Post by **zero.otaku** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:46 pm

I clicked on this thread thinking it'd be really lame. To my surprise, I stumbled upon a wonderful resource of games I've never heard of but sound really cool (all that Konami MSX stuff - I never knew!) and some oldies but goodies from my collection that've been neglected (Twinkle Tale & Undeadline, wow, it's been awhile since I've had a go at those).

Thanks everyone for posting. To me, these kind of topics are what make shmups.com worth reading.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:56 pm

zero.otaku wrote:To me, these kind of topics are what make shmups.com worth reading.

There'd be more of them if not for the hazy definitions and apparent borderliner snubbing going on, I suppose

nimitz · Post by **nimitz** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:12 pm

Knighmare with with hatsune miku vocal encoder

here!

DarkMoon · Post by **DarkMoon** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:29 pm

Ed Oscuro wrote:
DarkMoon wrote:Adventures of Dino Riki on NES.
I think I played the FC version of that in an emulator a while back, had forgotten the name. I'll look this up now.

lol, wikipedia:

In Vol. 224 of Nintendo Power current Editor-in-Chief Chris Slate named "The Adventures of Dino Riki" as his choice for worst game of all time, due to its incredibly difficult levels and lack of enjoyment.[/quote}

Its not that bad. It is a difficult game because its one of those where if you die in Level 4 you are going to have a hard time coming back. Best bet is to get powered up at the beginning of the game and stay so.

Worst game of all time. Hardly. Difficult. Yes.

I like the game, but I have a lot of nostalgia with it as well.

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:33 pm

DarkMoon wrote: lol, wikipedia:
In Vol. 224 of Nintendo Power current Editor-in-Chief Chris Slate named "The Adventures of Dino Riki" as his choice for worst game of all time, due to its incredibly difficult levels and lack of enjoyment.[/quote}

Just like that Garegga review... It's all coming together =O

320x240 · Post by **320x240** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:13 pm

Equites by Alpha Denshi/Sega. It's playable in Mame.

It is interesting to note that this game from 84 is in some ways more innovative than what came after in this genre: Knightmare, Undeadline, Guwange etc.

toaplan_shmupfan · Post by **toaplan_shmupfan** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:11 am

One that immediately comes to mind is Heavy Barrel (Data East). Even though it's probably more of a top-down run and gun shooter, there are elevators and such that are also encountered in parts of the game.

It's probably very hard to find an actual arcade machine of this game nowadays (and the NES version was okay but was also significantly easier than the arcade version), but to me, it seems it would qualify as a shump with people, rather than planes or ships.

zaphod · Post by **zaphod** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:04 am

No it's a run and gun.

Games like Knightmare and Kings Knight are the type of game he's looking for.

320x240 · Post by **320x240** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:21 pm

Isolated Warrior is an interesting ground based isometric shmup on the NES. Some of the later levels looks quite hectic:

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/isola ... 4167920686

What about Ninja Commando? You shoot in one direction only, like in a shmup, but the levels doesn't auto-scroll, which makes it feel more like a run'n gun. (Just noticed it was already mentioned)

320x240 · Post by **320x240** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:12 pm

Fray in Magical Adventure is another shmup where the character seems to (mostly) walk on the ground. I've seen pictures that show the heroine flying above ground too. The game was released for the Turbo-R(?) and PCE-CD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAFjhHZ6E-o
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320x240 · Post by **320x240** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:45 am

And then there's Mercenary Force. Probably the only horizontally scrolling ground based shmup (?).

Turrican made a short but great review/guide for it here:
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=11656

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:33 pm

it290 wrote:Hmm... this thread got me thinking for some reason about how sweet it would be if Capcom released a Ghouls 'n' Ghosts vertical shmup.

its a franchise they sure could do a lot with. maximo was a poor subsitute.

jochen · Post by **jochen** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:01 pm

Twinkle Tale for the Mega-Drive - similar to Elemental Master
and Undead Line.

emphatic · Post by **emphatic** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:58 pm

it290 wrote:Hmm... this thread got me thinking for some reason about how sweet it would be if Capcom released a Ghouls 'n' Ghosts vertical shmup.

Try "Legendary Wings".
Emph

320x240 · Post by **320x240** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:12 am

The raft stage from the nes game 'The Adventures of Tom Saywer' is by definition a ground based vert. In the Japanese original it's the first stage too.

2.05 and onwards:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYYq7DTdVQE

RoninBuddha · Post by **RoninBuddha** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:49 pm

Gatchaman - The Shooting for the PS1 alternates between walking stages and ship-flying stages...

nash87 · Post by **nash87** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:24 am

cannon spike (gunspike) by capcom on the dreamcast/arcade comes to mind. I don't know what kind of shmup i'd categorize it as but you do control a character. You can shoot, melee, or both to make a combo. It has the most amazing selection of characters in any shooter i've ever played!

320x240 · Post by **320x240** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:34 am

RoninBuddha wrote:Gatchaman - The Shooting for the PS1 alternates between walking stages and ship-flying stages...

Looks interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG6smPvJV6E

I prefer that ground based shmups take on some of the characteristics of horizontals myself though, like natural obstacles and that the enemies themselves become as much of a threat as their bullets.

Mortificator · Post by **Mortificator** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:21 pm

Yeah, that actually doesn't look half-bad.

MadScientist · Post by **MadScientist** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:19 pm

I was looking for that one time and downloaded Space Adventure Cobra - The Shooting instead by accident. It was awful...

Post by **spadgy** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:24 pm

As close as I've seen to Chaos Engine with forced scrolling, which means I might have to hunt that down.

Post by **Ghegs** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:50 pm

Mortificator wrote:Yeah, that actually doesn't look half-bad.

Gatchaman: The Shooting is really, really, really, really easy on defaults and gets boring fast. Yes, even easier than Harmful Park or TFVI or Shienryu Explosion. At least those other games have other redeeming qualities but Gatchaman just doesn't.

On the defaults you can take a billion hits before dying...on the other difficulty mode you take one hit and it's Game Over. Yes, just one life. It still doesn't make the game any more interesting.

Mortificator · Post by **Mortificator** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:28 pm

Oh. Well, thanks for the heads-up. I'll battle on other planets.

320x240 · Post by **320x240** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:18 pm

Thundercade/Twin Formation should count as ground based I guess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuNN1M5qvzs

MadScientist · Post by **MadScientist** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:21 pm

Ghegs wrote: Gatchaman: The Shooting is really, really, really, really easy on defaults and gets boring fast.

I found this eventually. Yeah, it's pretty easy. Kind of a Psikyo game for babies sort of feel to it. The 'walking' stages don't really feel much like walking stages since you don't interact with the background in any way.