European Buttons

Bonemaster969 · Post by **Bonemaster969** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:58 pm

Hello all. I had just ordered a Suzo Inductive Stick the other day. I've always wanted to build a European style stick, but unfortunately, I can't figure out what the standard buttons are. When I visited Germany, I saw a Tekken machine using competition buttons with a stick that looked like a Happ competition with a flat top. When I went to London, I saw all sorts of combinations of parts. Seemed like most of the arcades were converting to Japanese-style parts. Anyone know buttons are used in combination with Suzo sticks?

PS: First post! w00t!

cody · Post by **cody** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:06 pm

Curious, where did you find the suzo inductive? Theyve been out of production & out of stock for a while now.

Bonemaster969 · Post by **Bonemaster969** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:01 pm

OMG! Someone with the exact same name as me is responding to my question! That's trippy! Anyhow, I had bought mine from tntamusements, but the guy had told me that I managed to order the last one. I guess a bunch of SRK guys were ordering more than one. Those dickheads. Hmm, for some reason I can't find any other place selling them. I could've swore there were a couple more places selling them for around $40.

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:55 pm

omg...im a cody too....lolz

small world....sorry OT....

i got nothing to add to this conversation.....lolz

cody · Post by **cody** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:43 pm

What makes you think i'm not just a street fighter alpha 3 player?

"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cody_(Final_Fight)"

back to the original topic, suzo sells pushbuttons:

http://suzo.com/cataloguefiles/20.pdf

although they look kinda dubious.

Bonemaster969 · Post by **Bonemaster969** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:17 am

omg...im a cody too....lolz

small world....sorry OT....

i got nothing to add to this conversation.....lolz

OK, things are starting to get a little creepy around here. What is this, the international Cody reunion? This reminds me of Wrestling Club in high school, where there were 3 of us Codys. We ended up just referring to each other by numbers instead.

What makes you think i'm not just a street fighter alpha 3 player?

"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cody_(Final_Fight)"

Because you have an avatar of that guy from GTO instead of Cody from Final Fight. Nevertheless, it made me think I was answering my own question!

back to the original topic, suzo sells pushbuttons:

http://suzo.com/cataloguefiles/20.pdf

although they look kinda dubious.

Damn, I really need to get a PDF reader for windows. Acrobat just seems too huge. I can't actually view the PDF, but I'm guessing they are identical to the Happ horizontal (concave) pushbuttons. Not sure if that's what Europe normally uses though.

Post by **system11** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:42 pm

IL.

http://www.gremlinsolutions.co.uk/produ ... uttons.htm

I think they actually make the parts sold by some of the other companies...

Bonemaster969 · Post by **Bonemaster969** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:39 pm

Hmm, looks just like the american-style buttons. Except for one thing: the blue cherry microswitches. I had heard a while back that they require much less pressure to activate than the red microswitch versions. The blue cherrys may be a bit hard to come by in the states. I think what I'll end up doing is ordering a Suzo 500 and using those buttons with it. As for the inductive stick, I think I'm gonna use some of those clear Seimitsu PS-14-KNs with it. I doubt inductive sticks were ever common in arcades, due to the much higher price tag. I never really wanted to use concaved buttons with the inductive stick. I feel that they would go much better with a microswitched Suzo.

Now for the part that always takes me forever: button layouts. Anyone have a common European button layout? I'm guessing the layout on those Electrocoin machines in Casino Arcade were the norm over there. Thanks for the help guys!

cody · Post by **cody** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:10 am

Bonemaster969 wrote: I think what I'll end up doing is ordering a Suzo 500 and using those buttons with it.

Not to sound like a broken record, but from where (assuming you arent in UK)?

theevilfunkster · Post by **theevilfunkster** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:23 am

There was no real common European button layout for cabs, certainly no standard like Sega have been using on their candy cabs for years. Mostly three button setups with three extra badly positioned buttons added by the operator so they could install Street Fighter 2

Buttons installed on UK cabs were usually Happs or some horrible leaf switch buttons. Sega Used either Sanwa or Seimitus on most of their cabs here.

Bonemaster969 · Post by **Bonemaster969** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:28 am

Not to sound like a broken record, but from where (assuming you arent in UK)?

http://www.ultimarc.com/controls.html
I think I'm gonna order the Suzo 500 and buttons from here. If you're after the buttons too, you may wanna double check that they use the "blue" cherry microswitches.

There was no real common European button layout for cabs, certainly no standard like Sega have been using on their candy cabs for years. Mostly three button setups with three extra badly positioned buttons added by the operator so they could install Street Fighter 2 Rolling Eyes

Buttons installed on UK cabs were usually Happs or some horrible leaf switch buttons. Sega Used either Sanwa or Seimitus on most of their cabs here.

Aww bummer. I guess it's usually the same layout america uses then. Sega actually sold candy cabinets there? I've seen candy cabs floating around in Europe, but I figured they were imported.

theevilfunkster · Post by **theevilfunkster** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:23 am

Bonemaster969 wrote:Sega actually sold candy cabinets there? I've seen candy cabs floating around in Europe, but I figured they were imported.

There's an enormous amount of Sega Universal Cabinets in the country, not so much of any of their other candy cabs, Astros, Aeros etc...

There's a lot of other Sega cabs here though, the likes of their Megalo and the wooden cabs they used for their Model 2/3 stuff usually had Sanwa or Seimitsu parts installed with the standard Sega button layout.