Ikaruga is awesome but sucks compared to Radiant Silvergun

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:24 pm

jpj wrote:is it red?

i'm 37% mexican but i'm sure my skin color isn't that.

Hardstepah · Post by **Hardstepah** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:30 pm

i know it takes so much more than 5 brain cells to figure out a raiden fighters game or battle garegga right? i think im done with this thread theres no use arguing with elitests

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:31 pm

Hardstepah wrote:i know it takes so much more than 5 brain cells to figure out a raiden fighters game or battle garegga right? i think im done with this thread theres no use arguing with elitests

it really does you should try it sometime.

unless the word "score" doesn't mean a thing to you

wait i already know the answer to that

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:31 pm

Hardstepah wrote:omg this sucks these points against RSG must be invalid because RSG is fucking awesome

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:35 pm

editing your posts again

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:36 pm

if you watch i append not edit

like this

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:38 pm

you would save yourself time if you weren't so eager to click submit, after writing something exciting about your penis

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:39 pm

less effort per action

i use the RISC model of forum posting

bsidwell · Post by **bsidwell** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:40 pm

Hardstepah wrote:i know it takes so much more than 5 brain cells to figure out a raiden fighters game or battle garegga right? i think im done with this thread theres no use arguing with elitests

Playing Raiden Fighters Jet is like doing calculus problems while driving a Formula 1 car 190mph the wrong way down a one-way street.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:42 pm

it has lots of fairies.

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:48 pm

ZOMGZ TIMING BASED CHAINZ + MEDALZ!11!111

it's like donpachi meets raizing

w/e that means

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:00 pm

Back to RSG bashing for a sec, hey does anyone think the soundtrack actually detracts from the game? It seems like leftovers from Final Fantasy Tactics. Not very fitting, and also: leftovers.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:01 pm

Yeah it wasn't particularly fitting for a shooter since it was too fantasy-epic

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:03 pm

they reprinted the soundtrack cd due to demand.

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:09 pm

And then Ikaruga's soundtrack was very good. It's amazing to see that Iuchi is such a talented composer.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:14 pm

jpj wrote:they reprinted the soundtrack cd due to demand.

Which means people want to listen to it away from the game, I guess. I can see that.

Plasmo · Post by **Plasmo** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:39 pm

I really like RS and Ika. They'll always stay in my top 10.
RS has an excellent level design and most of the bosses are pure awesome. The atmosphere is incredible. Stage 5 is probably my favourite stage in a videogame ever. But to be honest i have to admit that the chaining system is rather messed up. You shoot red enemies 90% of the time and it's not flexible at all. In Ikaruga Treasure has fixed this problem. Here you can chain all enemies no matter what polarity they are. The thing i like most in Ika is that there are chains and places that are everything but obvious. Before the Appreciate DVD and other superplay vids i had to make my own sketches and spent lots of time figuring the chains out, it was really fun. It wasn't much of a Shmup, it's more like a puzzle game and i like that.
In other games like DDP the chain routes are usually very obvious. I never had to think more than lets say 5-10mins for a good chaining route.

lawnspic · Post by **lawnspic** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:20 am

Ah, opinions, opinions- The spice of life (or should i say Shmups)

FIL · Post by **FIL** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:24 am

RSG is not a game I enjoy playing much, therefore it is bad. Ikarugua I enjoy a little bit more so it is not as bad.

Keade · Post by **Keade** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:43 am

Good demostration.

OldSchoolGamer86 · Post by **OldSchoolGamer86** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:24 am

I have never played Radiant Silvergun yet myself so I can not compare. Personally, I could care less which is better. I have played MANY shmups that top ikaruga. I am told ikaruga is a stripped down Radiant Silvergun, and by that statement I can believe that Radiant can't touch many other shmups I have played.

Personally I find Border Down, Under Defeat, ESPgaluda, DoDonPachi all much much much better than Ikaruga could ever hope to be. Ikaruga seems more like a well made flash game(look at the file size) than a well made shump. There isn't much to ikaruga as all you do is switch colors and shoot the opposite color while trying not to die. I love treasure so I am in no way trying to put them down...but I feel Ikaruga is more hype than anything.

Cave>Treasure in just about every aspect as far as shmups are concerned.

I hope to one day aquire Radiant Silvergun so I can give it a shot...but my hopes are not high on how great it will be.

lawnspic · Post by **lawnspic** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:53 am

OldSchoolGamer86 wrote:I have never played Radiant Silvergun yet myself so I can not compare. Personally, I could care less which is better. I have played MANY shmups that top ikaruga. I am told ikaruga is a stripped down Radiant Silvergun, and by that statement I can believe that Radiant can't touch many other shmups I have played.

Personally I find Border Down, Under Defeat, ESPgaluda, DoDonPachi all much much much better than Ikaruga could ever hope to be. Ikaruga seems more like a well made flash game(look at the file size) than a well made shump. There isn't much to ikaruga as all you do is switch colors and shoot the opposite color while trying not to die. I love treasure so I am in no way trying to put them down...but I feel Ikaruga is more hype than anything.

Cave>Treasure in just about every aspect as far as shmups are concerned.

I hope to one day aquire Radiant Silvergun so I can give it a shot...but my hopes are not high on how great it will be.

Just dont hate it before you play it, because you will convince yourself not to like it even if you do. RS is a benchmark in shmups as well as many other good games out there.

Also im starting to believe comparing the two titles is pointless. I never thought Ika was a "Spiritual Sequal" to RS despite what is displayed on the splash screen. They are two separate entities entirely.

RS and Ikaruga are two fine games in there own right.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:01 am

lawnspic wrote:you will convince yourself not to like it even if you do.

OldSchoolGamer86 · Post by **OldSchoolGamer86** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:05 am

lawnspic wrote:
OldSchoolGamer86 wrote:I have never played Radiant Silvergun yet myself so I can not compare. Personally, I could care less which is better. I have played MANY shmups that top ikaruga. I am told ikaruga is a stripped down Radiant Silvergun, and by that statement I can believe that Radiant can't touch many other shmups I have played.

Personally I find Border Down, Under Defeat, ESPgaluda, DoDonPachi all much much much better than Ikaruga could ever hope to be. Ikaruga seems more like a well made flash game(look at the file size) than a well made shump. There isn't much to ikaruga as all you do is switch colors and shoot the opposite color while trying not to die. I love treasure so I am in no way trying to put them down...but I feel Ikaruga is more hype than anything.

Cave>Treasure in just about every aspect as far as shmups are concerned.

I hope to one day aquire Radiant Silvergun so I can give it a shot...but my hopes are not high on how great it will be.

Just dont hate it before you play it, because you will convince yourself not to like it even if you do. RS is a benchmark in shmups as well as many other good games out there.

Also im starting to believe comparing the two titles is pointless. I never thought Ika was a "Spiritual Sequal" to RS despite what is displayed on the splash screen. They are two separate entities entirely.

RS and Ikaruga are two fine games in there own right.

I will take your advice. I will aquire it some day as I stated earlier...but its not a huge must have want for me. I will pick it up when I have the $$ for it laying arround or if I can get a fair trade going to get it. I do and will keep an open mind on RS. I am sure RS and Ikaruga are 2 different games in their own right, and more than likely, shouldn't be compared to each other.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:20 am

lawnspic wrote:Just dont hate it before you play it, because you will convince yourself not to like it even if you do.

it's the other way around really, nearly all of the people who hate it have actually played it while most who praise it haven't even played it beyond a brief stint of running it at half speed in ssf

then there are these one or two weirdos who genuinely enjoy playing the shmup equivalent of standing in the middle of a street directing traffic

Macaw · Post by **Macaw** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:26 am

To me its more about direction and atmosphere than score systems, and thats why I love RS so much. Its an incredible thrill ride that just feels exciting as you go through it, and the music perfectly suits everything going on and adds to the dramatic feel of it all.

That doesn't mean I don't play it for score though, of course I do. I think its about as fun as the Ikaruga system, they're both so similar anyway - I couldn't care less if you 'have to let certain enemies go'

Batrider is the best shooting game ever.

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:33 am

Batrider is the best shooting game ever.

He has a point.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:37 am

Batrider - if you want all of the bosses you have to use crap characters. :(

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:55 am

-1

I know Carpet is Gain mk.2 but it's just not the same

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:10 pm

- Ikaruga is not a puzzle game
- You are not clever when you say this
- Every good scoring game has a heavy element of puzzle solving (you'd have to play for score to notice.)