I'm going to sue Shmups!

Tigershark · Post by **Tigershark** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:46 pm

Only joking! But I'd like to go on record by stating that since I've joined this bloody place it's cost me a lot of money that I would not otherwise have spent! I keep reading about all these fantastic sounding games I don't have which forces me to go out and buy them.

A good example of this is my recent purchase of a Japanese Sega Saturn just to play Battle Garrega on it. No doubt Radiant Silvergun will follow.

Where will it all end?

Anyone else in the same boat? Perhaps we could bring a class action?

TS.

Specineff · Post by **Specineff** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:49 pm

Against whom? The only companies out there still making shmups are Cave, Milestone, maybe Treasure and G-Rev.

Tigershark · Post by **Tigershark** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:52 pm

Pedant

I meant the web site obviously

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:05 pm

Specineff wrote:Against whom? The only companies out there still making shmups are Cave, Milestone, maybe Treasure and G-Rev.

Skonec, Triangle Service, Warashi, Moss, Shinen, et all not withstanding you mean...Getting into this hobby and persuing everything you want can cost you a small fortune for sure.

The joy you'll get from the games will be the best counter argument in court for the companies though.

genetik · Post by **genetik** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:21 pm

Tigershark wrote:Only joking! But I'd like to go on record by stating that since I've joined this bloody place it's cost me a lot of money that I would not otherwise have spent! I keep reading about all these fantastic sounding games I don't have which forces me to go out and buy them.

Same problem happened with me. Since i joined I bought a lot of stuff. Radiant Silvergun, Border Down Reprint, Matrix (Sealed), Gigawing 2(Sealed), Virtual ON Twinsticks, Parodius series, Strikers series, Blast Wind, Metal Black, Twinkle Star Sprites and many many more.

But realistically, I probably would've bought those from somewhere else anyway and it would've costed me even more

Post by **spadgy** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:37 pm

My additional problem on top of the cost is that if I didn't spend so much time here I'd be better at shmups! But I like it here.

On that note, I'm gonna go and give DDP:DOJ a good going over...

Tigershark · Post by **Tigershark** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:01 pm

Now there's a euphemism. A bit like taking your girlfriend up the OXO Tower (you have to live in London to get that one!).

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:03 pm

Well there is no limit of how much you *could* spend on shmup games... Once you have all the great console titles, you could start collecting 2nd hand PCBs, some deep pocket member here even bought them new...

Not all people could afford this kind of spending, even for someone have a full time job.

My suggestion is buy all games used, keep those you like most and sell all the others. And keep away from new / simi-new PCBs, unless you think you are one of those deep pocket member.

Finally, be have a budget, it is very easy to over spend, it is very painful to find that you have to sell your copy of Radiant Silvergun cheap when it's time to pay rent or tax... Some members (including me) had experienced this in the past.

Andi · Post by **Andi** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:28 pm

Just find a couple of games you really like and then play them to death. When you're done, get a few more. Everyone on this board has a real collector's mentality it seems, which can be detrimental to the hobby. When you have a ton of games, you can't focus on one and truly enjoy it.

HUU · Post by **HUU** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:50 pm

I find that stg hobby is not that much expensive...of course it's not cheap but not that expensive.
I always see other people hobby like guns, art, stamps or even keychain etc...!!! wich are all really much expensive than stg.
I've seen some keychain going over 1500usd...

...

So you see, your hobby could be worse than stg !!!

Also if you're really enjoying it than it's worth it !

boagman · Post by **boagman** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:13 pm

Tigershark wrote:A good example of this is my recent purchase of a Japanese Sega Saturn just to play Battle Garrega on it.

Wow. You honestly bought into the "drink the Kool-Aid" idea with that title, eh? Probably the worst reason I can think of to actually buy a Saturn, much less waste time playing.

Now Radiant Silvergun, on the other hand...totally worth it. In fact, Treasure titles in general on that machine are things of legend, and not without proper reason.

But Garbaggia? Er, I mean Garrega? Yike.

Tigershark · Post by **Tigershark** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:35 pm

Well I took the precaution of playing it on Mame first so knew what I was getting into. As much as I like the bullet hell games of Cave they can get a bit monotonous after a while.

I have to say that I'm enjoying BG a lot!

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:45 pm

boagman wrote:But Garbaggia? Er, I mean Garrega? Yike.

Garegga > Radiant Silvergun.

I like Silvergun, but I like Garegga better.

And yes I own both games.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:22 pm

yet you don't post scores for either....

Tigershark · Post by **Tigershark** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:46 pm

Who cares.

I will probably end up getting tha game but I'm not a massive fan of Ikaruga. Too bloody hard after the third stage.

BG for the time being then.

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:33 pm

jpj wrote:yet you don't post scores for either....

Why I must post scores?

I own both games, and I like Garegga more.

Got a problem with it?

LMK

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:02 pm

yeah... why post scores...

themachinist · Post by **themachinist** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:09 pm

jpj wrote:yet you don't post scores for either....

My dad can beat up your dad.

gavin19 · Post by **gavin19** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:41 pm

Well my dad could beat up your dad, he just chooses not to...

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:44 am

He spent $120 tops

The beauty of it all.

boagman · Post by **boagman** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:00 am

Tigershark wrote:Well I took the precaution of playing it on Mame first so knew what I was getting into. As much as I like the bullet hell games of Cave they can get a bit monotonous after a while.

I have to say that I'm enjoying BG a lot!

Well, then, at least you thought ahead, and if BG is your cup of tea, more power to you. I doubt you could pay me to play it again. Then again, the bullet hell shmups really aren't my cup of tea overall, either.

Glad you like it.

boagman · Post by **boagman** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:04 am

Fighter17 wrote:Garegga < Radiant Silvergun.

I like Garegga, but I like Silvergun better.

And yes I own both games.

Fixed!

Oh, and is it Garegga or Garrega?

chempop · Post by **chempop** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:27 am

congrats on the SS and BG! remember to get good at your games before you just buy a ton and get lost between them all. For saturn i highly recommend Layer Section, Soukyugurentai (the second release btw), Batsugun, Dodonpachi (not perfect port, but still classic must have). Really the list can go on and on, but again stick with what you have until you really NEED a new game. Oh and also as much as I love Radiant Silvergun, you might want to save it for when your skills reach a high level and keep in mind it is somewhat a puzzle game when played correctly with color chaining and all.

are you using a stick or pad?

Tigershark · Post by **Tigershark** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:00 am

A pad. That way I can lay back and relax while shooting! Something about a stick means you have to sit up straight to play.

Post by **spadgy** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:12 pm

chempop wrote: remember to get good at your games before you just buy a ton and get lost between them all.

Exactly what I did at first. Now I've focussed just a little more.

And yes Tigershark - I know the Oxo Tower. And yes. DDPDOJ left me feelijng like a useless exhausted mess...

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:30 am

Tigershark wrote:Only joking! But I'd like to go on record by stating that since I've joined this bloody place it's cost me a lot of money that I would not otherwise have spent! I keep reading about all these fantastic sounding games I don't have which forces me to go out and buy them.

A good example of this is my recent purchase of a Japanese Sega Saturn just to play Battle Garrega on it. No doubt Radiant Silvergun will follow.

Where will it all end?

Anyone else in the same boat? Perhaps we could bring a class action?

TS.

Would have saved loads of money if you simply modded a regular cheaper EURO/USA Saturn and just downloaded an image of Garrega & Radiant Silvergun

Or you could just go the MAME way, most are perfectly emulated.

No way is Radiant Silvergun worth 150$

No game is worth that much!

Just a suggestion

JJG · Post by **JJG** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:32 am

Lets sue Milestone for making crappy games and even worse ports.

bullet_happy · Post by **bullet_happy** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:12 pm

I still remember when I was student a few years ago and got a job as a waiter in an expensive restaurant just to fuel my import videogame and epsecially shmup hobby.Meh.First purchase was Ikaruga with a DC-X GD.And the second was Border Down and Ikaruga Appreciate DVD.Time to get to the real Arcade market, it will happen.

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