Raizing Medal Chains vs DDP Enemy Chains

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:23 am

Trap Poll for those who don't bother reading poll question LULZ

anyways I think both systems are pretty crap lol

I'm going to have to say raizing sux more because you basically have to score to survive though lol

Erinu · Post by **Erinu** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:29 am

chaining/item collection are both no-obligation

I'm more into disliking raizing games though since they penalize you for being alive longer. I mean what the fuck.

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:39 am

I liked the medal collecting in Batrider, it creates a lot of tension and having to dodge bullets while desperately trying to catch medals is very stimulating (and frustrating sometimes).

Memorizing a whole game? Thanks, no.

Erinu wrote: I'm more into disliking raizing games though since they penalize you for being alive longer. I mean what the fuck.

That´s just Garegga (and Ibara), really. Batrider has it too, but it´s not nearly as extreme, and if you play Bakraid for score (which I don´t) you´ll be suiciding so much you won´t EVER have to care about rank. I somewhat understand how chaining in that game works, but I never pulled it off even on the first boss. The shower of extends afterwards must be very rewarding, though.

Geezer · Post by **Geezer** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:39 am

Medal chaining FTW.

Geezer · Post by **Geezer** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:40 am

shoe-sama wrote:Trap Poll for those who don't bother reading poll question LULZ

I got caught

Erinu · Post by **Erinu** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:45 am

FrederikJurk wrote:That´s just Garegga (and Ibara), really. Batrider has it too, but it´s not nearly as extreme, and if you play Bakraid for score (which I don´t) you´ll be suiciding so much you won´t EVER have to care about rank. I somewhat understand how chaining in that game works, but I never pulled it off even on the first boss. The shower of extends afterwards must be very rewarding, though.

Yeah, but I don't understand it. I mean, even daioujou has rank but it isn't absurd to the point where you're forced to die.

Punishing people for progress is like being kicked in the balls for graduating. This is Battle Garegga.

Post by **Dave_K.** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:52 am

Full stage enemy chaining FTL.

overkill55 · Post by **overkill55** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:53 am

Yep, I didn't read the question either, but I think that's part of the beauty of this poll.

I like medal chaining more than enemy chaining

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:55 am

FrederikJurk wrote:I liked the medal collecting in Batrider, it creates a lot of tension and having to dodge bullets while desperately trying to catch medals is very stimulating (and frustrating sometimes).

Memorizing a whole game? Thanks, no.

batrider's more like

bomb hey look shitloads of medals appear

oh look a boss milk the crap out of it

too many lives onoz time 2 suicide

Macaw · Post by **Macaw** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:03 am

you dont need to suicide in Batrider for rank control, that much.

Chaining whole stage sucks balls.

Chaining medals to make bigger medals appear is obviously better.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:05 am

Batrider's was fun. Raizing's other games I find offensive to play for score or survival. I vote for Batrider.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:09 am

oh man you missed that one spot by 16 milliseconds there goes 2/3 of your score

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:22 am

Maybe I should try Batrider. I too hate Garegga for the "survival punishment" thing. I'm not a HUGE fan of full stage enemy chaining, but I don't mind it either. And I'd certainly rather screw up my chain, lose half my score, and still be able to play the game like I HADN'T screwed up my chain, than in games like Garegga where screwing up (or not knowing) scoring opportunities hurts your ability to live.

It's my biggest problem with Radiant Silvergun as well. You have to be able to chain fairly well to level your weapons up. Lame.

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:29 am

shoe-sama wrote:Trap Poll for those who don't bother reading poll question LULZ

I've been duped! Damned turkey.

Erinu · Post by **Erinu** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:50 am

The poll's kind of inaccurate I mean pretty much all shooters have secrets or boss milking, intentional or not.

PROMETHEUS · Post by **PROMETHEUS** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:55 am

and all of them have you memorize the whole game

Post by **Dave_K.** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:01 am

shoe-sama wrote:
FrederikJurk wrote:I liked the medal collecting in Batrider, it creates a lot of tension and having to dodge bullets while desperately trying to catch medals is very stimulating (and frustrating sometimes).

Memorizing a whole game? Thanks, no.
batrider's more like

bomb hey look shitloads of medals appear

oh look a boss milk the crap out of it

too many lives onoz time 2 suicide

Sounds like a greater variety of strategy/planning than simply shoot next enemy in .05 seconds or loose your chain.

mirkvid · Post by **mirkvid** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:46 am

how many times do i have to say it?
batrider > dodonpachi.

freddiebamboo · Post by **freddiebamboo** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:48 am

I like both, but kudos to shoe for trying to start trouble

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:51 am

dodonpachi tells you straight to your face: 'you're shit. your timing is whack. you can't handle all the bullets. because you're a pussy.'

that's what great game systems are all about

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:51 am

Raizing gets my vote.

You can play it in many different ways (or freestyle).

DoDonPachi, well you can only play it in one style.

Harlequin · Post by **Harlequin** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:54 am

Most of you guys are pussies seriously.

Battle Garegga RULES!

So the game should get easier the longer you dont die? WTF?

I wouldnt play or buy that game.

Harlequin

freddiebamboo · Post by **freddiebamboo** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:59 am

There's going to be some great raizing fan bot [sic] posts in this thread.

gameoverDude · Post by **gameoverDude** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:00 am

If I had to pick which one I like more, it'd be the medal chaining.

Missing a 10,000 point medal really bites, but it's not nearly as bad as dropping a combo midway through a stage in DDP.

Bakraid's combo system is not nearly as punishing as DDP's, but it still can fairly rewarding (esp. when having a combo active also results in you getting 100,000 point medals rather than the 10,000s).

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:02 am

i don't like bombing pink flamingoes and getting like 500k when everyone else gets 2M

or doing some weird gunblimp suicide thing

if raizing didn't have a zillion extends though I'd like the raizing scoring system better than DDP or Guwange chaining or some other shit I can't seem to figure out

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:03 am

stick to puyo

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:06 am

You forgot safe spot memorizers.

freddiebamboo · Post by **freddiebamboo** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:08 am

JoshF wrote:You forgot safe spot memorizers.

We don't do Psikyo on this forum

Dandy J · Post by **Dandy J** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:10 am

i didnt read so my vote is backwards so keep that in mind

Post by **Icarus** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:12 am

freddiebamboo wrote:There's going to be some great raizing fan bot [sic] posts in this thread.

Fanbot's very busy with work and stuff at the moment, and is sorry he can't join in the festivities now, but it looks like people have it covered regardless.

PS: Enemy chaining makes my face turn beet-red.

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