First modern shmup?

Nuke · Post by **Nuke** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:28 pm

What would you call the first modern shmup, the game that holds up gameplay wise and could have been relesed today (obviously with updated graphics and sound).
My vote goes to Zanac.
Manic gameplay, powerful weapons, brutal AI.
It's a shame Compile Heart isn't revisiting it's old franchises (or at least in spirit, since I can imagine most of them are stuck in license-hell).

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:42 pm

Yeah, prob Zanac or Recca. Obviously this is a potentially contentious issue as to what characteristics define 'modern', but I see these two games as being fine examples of being early modern shooters.

FIL · Post by **FIL** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:32 am

How about Raiden.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:37 am

Raiden is as modern as Raiden 3. Which is to say it isn't.

FIL · Post by **FIL** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:44 am

Well neither are Zanac and Recca.

MathU · Post by **MathU** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:01 am

What the heck is a "modern" shoot 'em up?

shinsage · Post by **shinsage** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:18 am

gradius.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:25 am

MathU wrote:What the heck is a "modern" shoot 'em up?

Halo

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:20 am

Modern Shmup Checklist
_ lot of bullet
_ slow bullet
_ loli

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:26 am

So the first was...

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:27 am

touhou

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:52 am

Rob wrote:
MathU wrote:What the heck is a "modern" shoot 'em up?
Halo

Halo is dated, real men play Call of Duty 4

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:36 am

Omega Fighter. Why you even ask?

ColecoVisionist · Post by **ColecoVisionist** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:41 am

R-Type.

320x240 · Post by **320x240** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:38 am

The first modern shmup will be the next one out.

Also, older games can be just as fun as newer ones, if you spend enough time to get into them and learn their quirks.

Post by **spadgy** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:47 pm

Recca for me, or maybe Batsugun, in terms of a first to hold up to your standard of 'modern' playability.

But modern is such an arbiatry term.

It could mean from the last year or 50 years.

ROBOTRON · Post by **ROBOTRON** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:03 pm

I'll flow with Zanac. It was a giant leap from shmups like River Raid and Asteroids.

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:14 pm

Hey, can anyone tell me what was the first good shmup?

Also, what was the first beautiful shmup?

First shmup with complex scoring?

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:07 pm

moozooh wrote: Also, what was the first beautiful shmup?

Moon Patrol

Kaiser · Post by **Kaiser** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:11 pm

Rob wrote:
moozooh wrote: Also, what was the first beautiful shmup?
Moon Patrol

SPACE INVADERS

Battlesmurf · Post by **Battlesmurf** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:32 pm

got another vote for recca

bsidwell · Post by **bsidwell** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:53 pm

moozooh wrote:Hey, can anyone tell me what was the first good shmup?

Also, what was the first beautiful shmup?

First shmup with complex scoring?

What was the first shmup that knew how to love?

j^aws · Post by **j^aws** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:18 pm

moozooh wrote:Hey, can anyone tell me what was the first good shmup?

Also, what was the first beautiful shmup?

First shmup with complex scoring?

Define "good"; define "beautiful"; define "complex"... ?

Nuke · Post by **Nuke** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:25 pm

j^aws wrote:
moozooh wrote:Hey, can anyone tell me what was the first good shmup?

Also, what was the first beautiful shmup?

First shmup with complex scoring?
Define "good"; define "beautiful"; define "complex"... ?

Define "define"...?

j^aws · Post by **j^aws** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:29 pm

Nuke wrote:
j^aws wrote:
moozooh wrote:Hey, can anyone tell me what was the first good shmup?

Also, what was the first beautiful shmup?

First shmup with complex scoring?
Define "good"; define "beautiful"; define "complex"... ?
Define "define"...?

Consult a dictionary!

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:40 pm

You just told yourself off.

j^aws · Post by **j^aws** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:45 pm

Rob wrote:You just told yourself off.

Nah, you missed my point.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:00 pm

Define "point"

just kiddin', I'll answer your question though:

j^aws wrote: Define "good"; define "beautiful"; define "complex"... ?

Giga Wing; Moon Patrol; Stargate's control panel

escadrille · Post by **escadrille** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:01 pm

j^aws wrote:
Rob wrote:You just told yourself off.
Nah, you missed my point.

You just did it again.

PROMETHEUS · Post by **PROMETHEUS** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:07 pm

I think Giga Wing is very ugly -.-