Need racing game recommendations

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:36 am

My two favorites are to be honest Sega Rally, and Daytona on Saturn. People keep telling me ones that are better than those have been released...there doesn't seem to be any general consensus as to classics in the genre though. Which ones should I try? Doesn't have to be on Saturn.

Others I've liked:

Power Drift (pce)
Road Rash 3 (Genesis...this game owns!)
Outrun 2 for Xbox
Saturn sega ages Outrun

I thought Sega GT on Xbox, Daytona and Sega Rally on the DC were not that great, unless there's some element of greatness that I'm missing.

crithit5000 · Post by **crithit5000** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:41 am

How about any of the older Ridge Racer games? I've always enjoyed them...

And Daytona on Saturn gets too much hate...sure, it looks like crap, but it plays damn well.

SheSaidDutch · Post by **SheSaidDutch** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:31 am

I second Ridge Racer, I used to love the games onthe PSX years ago.

Wipeout?

I'm not a huge racing fan so I haven't got anything else to recommend

oxtsu · Post by **oxtsu** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:36 am

Personal favorite racing games, and most relevant today...

-Gran Turismo 4

*coming from Sega-AM2, especially:

-Daytona USA 2
-Super GT (Scud Race)
-Ferrarri F355 Challenge
-Outrun 2

-FZERO AX/GX

SheSaidDutch · Post by **SheSaidDutch** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:38 am

OutRun 2 The game to own an X-Box for, I'll try and get this one day and use my brother X-box to play this

adam76 · Post by **adam76** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:49 am

I'm not a massive racing game fan(i'm crap at them

), but even i enjoyed 'Project Gotham Racing 2' on the xbox. Its online too.

Post by **system11** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:53 am

Midnight Club 3. Racing through open cities is much more interesting than closed circuits with dull handling.

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:56 am

-Daytona USA 2
-Super GT (Scud Race)

You bastard

. I've been wanting to try these for the longest time...mame runs Scud Race at about 1 fps

Where do you play them at? Might have to make a pilgrimage...

TWITCHDOCTOR · Post by **TWITCHDOCTOR** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:29 am

The "Need for Speed" series, especially Hot Pursuit 2 (PS2!) and the Ridge Racer series as well.
Burnout 3 is a blast!
Personally, in my opinion, get Project Gotham Racing, ONLY if you're having trouble falling to sleep!
As far as old school...get Victory Run for the Turbo-16.

oxtsu · Post by **oxtsu** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:34 am

Neon wrote:
-Daytona USA 2
-Super GT (Scud Race)
You bastard . I've been wanting to try these for the longest time...mame runs Scud Race at about 1 fps

Where do you play them at? Might have to make a pilgrimage...

Right here at some local arcades in Oklahoma City. The Daytona 2 cabinet is the big-screen version, except dual station for 2-player, like this:

Super GT is the 2-player version as well:

There's an F355 Challenge and a few Outrun 2 machines locally too.

It might be worth the trip.

SPACE HARRIER · Post by **SPACE HARRIER** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:54 am

Because I'm also a BIG fan of racing games check these out:
X-BOX

PROJECT GOTHAM RACING 2..best online racer..also has a hidden shmup in it!
RALLY SPORT CHALLENCE 2..great handling a very nice looking game!
BURNOUT 3..arcade racing as it should be!
FORZA MOTORSPORT..beats GT4.(release 12 may)
RACE DRIVER 2..realistic handling and lots of different racing classes.
OUT RUN 2..fun but very limited,only 15 stages!
NFS 2 UNDERGROUND..show your own ride online..it's like the TFaTF movies!

Davey · Post by **Davey** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:14 pm

As I've mentioned way too many times before, Crazy Taxi is my favorite racing game. I haven't found any other racing games that I have nearly as much fun with.

Granted, the only other racing games I've played in the past few years were F-Zero GX and Burnout 2, and neither of those impressed me all that much.

roushimsx · Post by **roushimsx** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:50 pm

Need For Speed V: Porsche Unleashed.

Favorite racing game ever

After that the series went to shit (though HP2 on PS2 was ok)

Motor City Online was actually better in pretty much every way other than graphics, but since that was a MMO and since it's impossible to play anymore, it's not really work mentioning until someone dedicated enough decides to make a stand-alone server. Fuck EA in the ass for turning that game into an MMO and killing it off to support Sims Online.

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SPACE HARRIER wrote: FORZA MOTORSPORT..beats GT4.(release 12 may)

You really shouldn't judge a game before you play it... I've got very little doubt that it'll be better than Gran Turismo 4 (not like that's very hard), but you should still hold off from making any final judgments until the final version of the game comes out.

It was nice to hear that they're tweaking various aspects of the game that people complained about in the demo...

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:54 pm

Though very few will agree and the game has probably been surpassed (haven't played PGR on X-box, but I assume they're even better...) I would
say Metropolis Street Racer (MSR) comes highly recommended.

Speed Devils (offline) ain't bad either...

Stormowl · Post by **Stormowl** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:08 pm

until you've played burnout 3, you haven't really played anything at all.

theevilfunkster · Post by **theevilfunkster** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:27 pm

burnout 3 is awesome but unfortunatly it's been EAised. huge billboards for tiger woods and need for speed around every corner and that fucking awful dj guy!

Kiel · Post by **Kiel** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:28 pm

Ridge Racer for the PSP is the absolute best racing game I have ever played. Period.

roushimsx · Post by **roushimsx** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:37 pm

theevilfunkster wrote:burnout 3 is awesome but unfortunatly it's been EAised. huge billboards for tiger woods and need for speed around every corner and that fucking awful dj guy!

I love ingame advertising, it adds a lot to the immersion of a game if it's done right (remember those Red Bull ads in Wipeout?). I can see where it could easilly go overboard (Drink the pepsi to get your health back!), but if it's something like real life advertising on a bilboard or an AMD64 screensaver on a computer, i'm all for it.

judesalmon · Post by **judesalmon** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:38 pm

oxtsu wrote:Personal favorite racing games, and most relevant today...

-Gran Turismo 4

Isn't a racing game.

theevilfunkster · Post by **theevilfunkster** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:44 pm

I love ingame advertising, it adds a lot to the immersion of a game if it's done right (remember those Red Bull ads in Wipeout?). I

i dont mind advertising in games, especially racing games where it can add to the reallism. its just when EA got hold of burnout 3 and decided to use it to sell their other games.

roushimsx · Post by **roushimsx** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:48 pm

theevilfunkster wrote:i dont mind advertising in games, especially racing games where it can add to the reallism. its just when EA got hold of burnout 3 and decided to use it to sell their other games.

Still not seeing where it's a problem... I guess if the DJ says, "GO ON, BE A TIGER!" and "THIS NEXT TRACK IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY EA SPORTS....IT'S IN THE GAME!" then it'd get pretty shitty pretty quick...but just bilboards? Sounds good to me.

Diabollokus · Post by **Diabollokus** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:49 pm

What about that sequel to wipeout on the saturn wipeout 2027 0r 40 something, it was pretty cool back in the day with its speed and trimming with r and l triggers.

tokyo highway battle 2! beat that.

roushimsx · Post by **roushimsx** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:56 pm

Diabollokus wrote:What about that sequel to wipeout on the saturn wipeout 2027 0r 40 something, it was pretty cool back in the day with its speed and trimming with r and l triggers

Never much cared for the Saturn port of Wipeout so I never tried 2097 on Saturn...the Playstation version was good, but neither Wipeout nor Wipeout 2097 hold a candle to the badassity of Wipeout 3. Wipeout 3 is pure futuristic racing perfection, and one of my favorite racing games ever.

...but I strongly doubt I'll ever love a racing game as much as Motor City Online or Porsche Unleashed

TWITCHDOCTOR · Post by **TWITCHDOCTOR** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:05 pm

I'm going to haveta' try Porsche Unleashed one of these days, Roush.
I'm a huge fan of EA and their racing games...advertisments or not. I have all the NFS's except for that one...(?)

ALso, GET Tokyo Extreme Racer 2&3 (PS2 only) One of the few racers that NEVER gets boring!

NFS Hot Pusuit 2(PS2), hasn't gotten enough praise here...its the cats ass!

raiden · Post by **raiden** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:17 pm

judesalmon wrote:
oxtsu wrote:Personal favorite racing games, and most relevant today...

-Gran Turismo 4
Isn't a racing game.

couldn´t agree more, and would include all the Burnout/Need for Speed/Rally Sport Challenge games, too.
If you want Burnout gameplay with an actual challenge, try Speed Kings.
MSR/PGR/PGR2 are unbelievable, Wipeout 2/3, Daytona, Crazy Taxi, Race Driver 2, Sega Rally, Colin McRae and Waverace 64 are great racing games. Outrun 2 doesn´t hold a candle to Daytona or Sega Rally, but Outrun 2 SP (arcade only) is a lot more interesting, mainly because it had wind shadow drafting.

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:20 pm

raiden wrote:
judesalmon wrote:
oxtsu wrote:Personal favorite racing games, and most relevant today...

-Gran Turismo 4
Isn't a racing game.
couldn´t agree more, and would include all the Burnout/Need for Speed/Rally Sport Challenge games, too.
If you want Burnout gameplay with an actual challenge, try Speed Kings.
MSR/PGR/PGR2 are unbelievable, Wipeout 2/3, Daytona, Crazy Taxi, Race Driver 2, Sega Rally, Colin McRae and Waverace 64 are great racing games. Outrun 2 doesn´t hold a candle to Daytona or Sega Rally, but Outrun 2 SP (arcade only) is a lot more interesting, mainly because it had wind shadow drafting.

If you exclude Burnout and the others you should exclude Crazy Taxi as well! Though being a nice game it isn't really a racing game (as in racing against other cars... since you're racing against time here...).

dementia · Post by **dementia** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:23 pm

I really like F355 Challenge for Dreamcast and PS2. It offers a hardcore challenge.

I'm like Rallisport 2 and am currently eyeing Forza Motorsport.

raiden · Post by **raiden** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:05 pm

If you exclude Burnout and the others you should exclude Crazy Taxi as well! Though being a nice game it isn't really a racing game (as in racing against other cars... since you're racing against time here...).

you´re right of course, my criterium was just whether they are challenging, but from a conservative point of view, Crazy Taxi would be the first of all games mentioned to drop off the "racing game" list.

I like racing games for what they share with shmups: being challenging and always offering room for skill improvement. Not an RPG style improvement of car engine or flashy spoilers, not a means to tell a story (although Race Driver 2 is guilty of that, too), and not a superficial thing which can be fully understood in the first playing session.

roushimsx · Post by **roushimsx** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:13 pm

I don't see why Burnout 3 shouldn't be considered a racing game, unless rubber-band AI (of which Mario Kart and F-Zero are guilty of as well) is the main exclusion.. I mean, there is quite a bit more to the burnout series than the crash mode (though that crash mode is pretty damn fun)

The n00b · Post by **The n00b** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:24 pm

The Rallisport Challenge series. These games are among the best in arcade racing and I consider them the spiritual successers to the Sega Rally series.