Top 20 Most Collectible Games

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:59 pm

Matt Allen in the newest Retro Gamer ranks the top 20 most collectible games as sorted by price. Although the list here is not in price order.

Kizuna Encounter (Neo Geo)
Pocket Reversi (NGPC)
Ultima: Escape from Mount Drash (Vic 20)
Video Life (Atari 2600)
Protector: LE (Vectrex)
Rodland (NES)
DarXide (32X)
Tetris (Sega Mega Drive)
Space Invaders Collection (Virtual Boy)
Darius Alpha (PCE)
Double Dragon (C64 - cartridge version)
Great Giana Sisters (C64) - DC remake is really good of this
Akalabeth (Apple II)
Life (Astrocade)
NCAA Basketball 2K3 (Gamecube)
Rakugaki Showtime (PSX)
Entex Adventurevision (console)

Thunder Force · Post by **Thunder Force** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 4:01 pm

Brian wrote:Tetris (Sega Mega Drive)

Damn, I had a copy of this. I think I got rid of it for a few dollars years ago. Wonder how much it was worth.

judesalmon · Post by **judesalmon** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:05 pm

Out of that whole list I only own Rakugaki Showtime, but while that is a rare PSOne game, there are plenty of rarer/more expensive games out there.

What was the price guide for Rakugaki?

freddiebamboo · Post by **freddiebamboo** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:34 pm

Brian wrote: Ultima: Escape from Mount Drash (Vic 20)

What's a Vic 20?

Zach Keene · Post by **Zach Keene** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:41 pm

An old Commodore computer; came out a year or so before the 64 IIRC.

Random google link

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 6:36 pm

Well, it gives the prices in Pounds.

But, the Tetris goes for 2,500 - 4,000 Pounds. The article says there were many boots of Tetris for the MD, but only 4 of the real deal licensed from Sega.

The price on Showtime is 80 to 120 pounds.

Initially, I though the article was simply based on price, but Allen kind of goes according to price, rarity, packaging, etc.. So, in turth, I am not 100% sure what his scale is.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 6:44 pm

Brian wrote: NCAA Basketball 2K3 (Gamecube)

Forgive me if I'm missing something obvious here, but this game seems to stick out like a sore thumb on this list...why would this game be more collectible than the millions of other annual sports series releases? Did it get a really limited press run or something like that?

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:21 pm

The list seems incredibly arbitrary...

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:26 pm

NCAA 2K3 is the rarest GC title according to this article due to the short life Sega gave it on the shelf. They released it for Xmas 2002 and less than a month later they recalled all the games back. The article claims that less than 6,000 were sold.

Allen says that Sega had to recall the title because they were swimming in debt and sports titles on the Gamecube do not sell. So, to relieve some of the burden of deficits, they recalled the game and cut their losses.

Andi · Post by **Andi** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:45 pm

Brian wrote:Ultima: Escape from Mount Drash (Vic 20)

Whoa! A new Ultima Game that I didn't know about!

OH MY GOD!

Diabollokus · Post by **Diabollokus** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:48 pm

What about Darxide on the 32X...... how much could that get on ebay?

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:00 pm

Brian wrote:the stuff I wanted to know

Hmm, interesting, thanks for enlightening me...thing is, what do they do with all the copies they recall? Sell 'em over the internet for a song, destroy 'em, use 'em for drink coasters? In any case it definitely is weird to see a recent sports title up there amongst all these titles I've never heard of, heh.

adam76 · Post by **adam76** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:13 pm

What about 'Exed exes' for the famicom?

Apparently(according to an Edge-written retro magazine), it was based on a Capcom arcade game and licensed by Memetron. The cart to look for has a silver members sticker adorning it. If you gained a score of over 1m points you were awarded with a special password. After photographing your score and sending it to the developers Tokuma, you were sent the silver sticker. Shortages meant that not everyone recieved their stickers, hence the collectability.

One to look for in your local Gamestation then!

jp · Post by jp » Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:45 am

Battle Sphere (or Battle Sphere Gold) for the Atari Jaguar?
Panzer Dragoon Mini for the Game Gear?
Cheetah Men II for NES?
Sapphire for PC-Engine CD?

Though Kizuna Encounter (European) is the biggie... definitely.

Post by **Shatterhand** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:53 am

jp wrote:Panzer Dragoon Mini for the Game Gear?

What the heck is this?

Any version of Kizuna Encounter is rare? I knew a guy who owned an arcade , about 7 years ago, and he had Kizuna Encounter on his arcade.

I haven't talked to him for ages now, but I think I can find him if I want to... maybe he still has the PCB?

jp · Post by jp » Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:59 am

Shatterhand wrote:
jp wrote:Panzer Dragoon Mini for the Game Gear?
What the heck is this?

Any version of Kizuna Encounter is rare? I knew a guy who owned an arcade , about 7 years ago, and he had Kizuna Encounter on his arcade.

I haven't talked to him for ages now, but I think I can find him if I want to... maybe he still has the PCB?

Na, the Japanese AES cart isn't so rare. And the MVS is fairly common. Its just this "mystical" European AES cart where only "4 copies are known to exist", and a lot of Neo Geo heads tend to say its possible its just a nice bootleg, but then again they could be jealous.

Panzer Dragoon Mini:
FU-CK-ING rare Japanese Game Gear game. Basically, its various level from Panzer Dragoon and Panzer Dragoon II Zwei ported to the Game Gear in a "respectible but not so great" game. I've got pictures of my copy cha:
http://www.angelfire.com/al2/jp/images/ ... nmini.html

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:11 am

Hee hee, the li'l mini dragons are kinda cute...it's like PD's answer to Pocket Fighter!

alpha5099 · Post by **alpha5099** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:38 am

Ok, even if only like 6000 copies of NCAA Basketball 2K3 exist, it still seems out of place. I mean, it's on a list with games with only 4 known copies. Low print runs are one thing, but really, who the fuck cares about some piddling GC sports title?

And just what the heck is the Great Giana Sisters? I've got a song by Machinae Supremacy called "The Great Giana Sisters," the band obviously loves old computer games. I saw a screenshot over at GameFAQs, the game looked like a SMB clone.

raiden · Post by **raiden** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:24 am

And just what the heck is the Great Giana Sisters? I've got a song by Machinae Supremacy called "The Great Giana Sisters," the band obviously loves old computer games. I saw a screenshot over at GameFAQs, the game looked like a SMB clone.

that´s what it is, essentially. I´m wondering why it´s so rare, it was pretty popular back then, but on the other hand copies were very common on the C64, and the game was a little late in its lifespan when most people had moved on to Amiga or consoles.

Herr Schatten · Post by **Herr Schatten** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:13 am

raiden wrote:
And just what the heck is the Great Giana Sisters? I've got a song by Machinae Supremacy called "The Great Giana Sisters," the band obviously loves old computer games. I saw a screenshot over at GameFAQs, the game looked like a SMB clone.
that´s what it is, essentially. I´m wondering why it´s so rare, it was pretty popular back then, but on the other hand copies were very common on the C64, and the game was a little late in its lifespan when most people had moved on to Amiga or consoles.

The Great Giana Sisters was a blatant SMB rip-off, quite good on its own, but nowhere near the quality of the original. In fact, the game mechanics were exactly the same, but the game played very differently, because it was much slower-paced than SMB. TGGS is more about very precise jumps than anything else. The C64 version plays better than the Amiga and Atarii ST ports. I never tried the Amstrad version.

The music in the game is very good, as is most of Hülsbeck's early work. The Song Machinae Supremacy have covered is the title track of the game, the last part where the music suddenly becomes very different is the ingame music of the normal stages. Too bad they didn't include the rockin' theme from the underworld stages.

Why it is rare: Shortly after the release of TGGS, Nintendo sued Rainbow Arts because of the striking similarities to their very own cash cow SMB. They won and Rainbow Arts were forced to remove all copies of TGGS from the shop shelves. So whoever had bought an original copy in the short timespan TGGS was legally available was quite lucky, as they owned a very rare game now.

The copyrights don't seem to be much of an issue anymore, though, as not long ago a cellphone version of TGGS was released.

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 11:50 am

The DC remake of Giana Sisters is an excellent remake and free.

judesalmon · Post by **judesalmon** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:07 pm

Apparently unsold PAL Neo Geo AES games used to get turned into other games, so that may explain why Kizuna Encounter is so rare, or maybe there are thousands of unopened copies sitting in a German warehouse somehwere.

popawell · Post by **popawell** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:07 pm

Hey wouldn't the first metroid game be concidered collectable?
I have never seen one throughout my 5 years of searching.
Also I heard one wen't for $250 on Ebay.

The world is wierd like that.

roushimsx · Post by **roushimsx** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:33 pm

popawell wrote:Hey wouldn't the first metroid game be concidered collectable?
I have never seen one throughout my 5 years of searching.
Also I heard one wen't for $250 on Ebay.

The world is wierd like that.

The NES version or the Disk System version?
I'd eat a baby fetus to get my hands on a copy of Akumajou Dracula on Famicom

Post by **Ghegs** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:16 pm

roushimsx wrote:
popawell wrote:Hey wouldn't the first metroid game be concidered collectable?
I have never seen one throughout my 5 years of searching.
Also I heard one wen't for $250 on Ebay.
The world is wierd like that.
The NES version or the Disk System version?

Well, at this very moment I can see several NES Metroids on eBay, one with a BIN of $8.99, and two Disk System copies, one with a BIN of $32 and one with $45. Great looking cover, btw.

I'd eat a baby fetus to get my hands on a copy of Akumajou Dracula on Famicom

Y'mean this?

roushimsx · Post by **roushimsx** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:25 pm

Ghegs wrote:
I'd eat a baby fetus to get my hands on a copy of Akumajou Dracula on Famicom
Y'mean this?

Man, that's got a few days left to go on it..it'll probably wind up like that SD Snatcher auction that i lost out on because no one would pay me $105 to eat a baby fetus

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Mon May 02, 2005 10:42 pm

Herr Schatten wrote:The Great Giana Sisters was a blatant SMB rip-off, quite good on its own, but nowhere near the quality of the original.

[...]

Why it is rare: Shortly after the release of TGGS, Nintendo sued Rainbow Arts because of the striking similarities to their very own cash cow SMB. They won and Rainbow Arts were forced to remove all copies of TGGS from the shop shelves. So whoever had bought an original copy in the short timespan TGGS was legally available was quite lucky, as they owned a very rare game now.

I don't think Giana was "nowhere near" the quality of the original. As often, I find your opinion on Commodore classics tend to be harsh, Herr Schatten. Don't be too picky, do I have to remind you what kind of junk platformers crowded these systems?

Giana was the closest SMB clone ever, and the closest you could get to Mario without buying a NES. Nintendo evidently realized this too, since they demanded and obtained the game's retire from shelves. If they sensed a danger it must not have been so far from the original game. I played the inferior amiga version and I was impressed, personally.

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Mon May 02, 2005 10:47 pm

roushimsx wrote:
Ghegs wrote:
I'd eat a baby fetus to get my hands on a copy of Akumajou Dracula on Famicom
Y'mean this?
Man, that's got a few days left to go on it..it'll probably wind up like that SD Snatcher auction that i lost out on because no one would pay me $105 to eat a baby fetus

Huh, guys... There's no need to get too excited, that auction is for a quite common Akumajou Densetsu. That is, our Castlevania III.

The real hard to find item is the famicom copy of Akumajou Dracula, a rare cart released in 1993:

http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/2/box-cvone93.htm

^ Scans from my own copy ^_^

Andi · Post by **Andi** » Tue May 03, 2005 1:23 am

roushimsx wrote:I'd eat a baby fetus to get my hands on a copy of Akumajou Dracula on Famicom

Baby fetus seems a little redundant here.

Post by **Shatterhand** » Tue May 03, 2005 3:09 am

Rainbow Arts had to pull off Great Giana Sisters from the shelves in the SAME DAY that was launched. I think it was like 5 hours after its launch.

What's really funny is that the game was widely spread anyway (At least the Amiga version, which is one I am most familiarized).

The game even got to a top 150 Amiga games of all time made by a website a few years ago (It was among the 30 first games if I remember correctly), and the webmaster of that site found that funny, as the game was "never released officialy"

I believe EVERY amiga version around has the "Red Sector" cracktro

Oh, and me too, thing that the game is nowhere the quality of Super Mario Bros. It's one of the most overrated gams on Amiga. Many people call it the "best platform game on the system". while I think it's plain bad.

There was an MSX game called "Super Boy II" which was much closer to the thing.

And then there was "Super Boy III" which was a rip-off of SUPER MARIO WORLD (Yes, the SNES game), which was actually pretty impressive.

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