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How many levels has this game got? I know the 1st story has about 5 and then you start the 2nd story with remixed levels. Well how many levels and storys are there? What's the deal. Has anyone beaten the game?


Also how bad is the slowdown in the PSone version? Isn't it one of those games that doesn't run properly on the PS2.



Thanks.
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The slowdown in the PS1 version is HORRIBLE when played on a PS2. Trust me, I own Namco Museum Encore, and that game was one of the main reasons I bought Encore.
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Cheers

Any ideas to how it runs on a PSone?
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You really have good taste :wink:

Rolling thunder has 10 levels, divided in two stories (eh, looping like in shmups). Now, the game was published in two versions: old and new (odd Namco habit).
The differences are many: the old version has more time (180), gives you less bullets when entering in the ammo rooms (20), has only one theme (the jungle one, the main theme is used only on last stage) and no extends.
The new version gives you a variable amount of bullets, has the jungle theme for stages 3-4 and 8-9, gives you less seconds (150) and has two extends. Aside from the gameplay changes, the New version was meant to resolve some bugs, but not of all them disappeared (can't recall the list, though).
Last but not least, Story 2 is quite more difficult, and the last stage is longer, has it has an added section which leads to the true final boss (!!!).
Consider that, unless you're *extremely* fast, you will need to die and start from the half-stage checkpoint, to clear it.

Now, the Namco encore version is actually a mix of the two: you have ammo replenishments and time like the old one, extends and music (and well, the overall enemy layout) like the new one. Also, it lacks all bugs (save one) and has a few extra bugs (duh). It should slow down a lot on ps2.
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I have the NES version of Rolling Thunder. It's actually a very good port. The animation is great for a NES game. It seems to be based mostly on the newer version, but with the time starting at 200. It seems to give you more bullets than the arcade version too.

I noticed that the games in the Namco Museums seem to be ports rather than emulation (Ms. Pac-Man is proof of this), though they are very good ports. I don't like the resloution for the arrangements in Namco Museum GCN, but the ports run smoothly and play great IMO. However, that Namco Museum wasn't designed by Namco like the PSX ones.
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I'm sure it would work fine on a modded or Japanese PS1; PS1 games that have "bugs" like that always work fine on a PS1.

I am selling my Namco Museum Encore on the Trading Station for $30 if you're interested!

I agree with BrianC about the NES port of Rolling Thunder, the levels are all there from the arcade original, even if the colors do look really dark in comparison.
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Does anyone have any of the sequels? I remember back in high school a friend of mine had either Rolling Thunder 2 or 3 on the Genesis. It had anime-style cutscenes between levels, and the option to continue. I'd forgotten all about that until just now... I guess I'll go home today and see if I have it on my XBox...
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I've got Rolling Thunder 3. I think it's a really good game. The previous games feel a bit too stiff. Do the earlier games have pre-stage weapon selection? I know one difference is that you can shoot diagonally.
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Rolling Thunder 2 is a scaled down version of the coin-op. The genesis version is however still very good. It has two player simultaneously, two awesome characters, unforgettable music score (and one of the most amazing sound test screens ever).

Rolling Thunder 3 is also for Genesis, as a US exclusive. It was never relased in Japan or Europe. The game is back to one player only. The music is still quite good, and the gameplay adds some twists, like diagonal and mid-jump shooting. The cutscenes however are quite ugly and Jay and Gloria way a less interesting couple than Albatross and Leila.

They can be found for cheap cash, and are worthy more than a play. Although the original remains more stylish. I'd love to see an arcade perfect port of Rolling Thunder 2... Maybe an Encore 2, namco? :)

Edit: Hardcore Gaming 101 covers them too!

http://www.classicgaming.com/reviews/ro ... hunder.htm
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Rolling Thunder 2 is perfectly emulated in MAME. One interesting thing is that the arcade game had a few elements taken away that appeared in the genesis port (the plot parts and, i think, a couple of stages). Also, the megadrive intro (Leila and Albatross in elegant dresses) point out to the english spy series that were the main inspiration behind the game, more than anything "The Avengers".
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Cheers fellas.
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Level 8 in the new version of the original RT is hell. You're almost certain to lose one life from running out of time- just be sure you haul ass to the checkpoint. 150 seconds here is not QUITE enough. I've almost concluded that 1-lifing it isn't possible- but 1-crediting definitely is.
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What about story 2 area 1 where those jokers are firing and jumping out on you from behind the sand bags? Sometimes jumping up can lure them out but otherwise it's pretty unfair.


Its a shame because with just some simple tweaking Rolling Thunder could be perfect.
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There's a trick: when you see enemies hiding behind sandbags and various parts of scenery, you should high-jump (command move, up+jump) so the enemies will notice you and attack. Be careful, you need a given distance to perform this move, as you will need to land and the enemies will suddenly attack you (in various ways, including dashing in). Hope it helps :wink:
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Randorama wrote:There's a trick: when you see enemies hiding behind sandbags and various parts of scenery, you should high-jump (command move, up+jump) so the enemies will notice you and attack. Be careful, you need a given distance to perform this move, as you will need to land and the enemies will suddenly attack you (in various ways, including dashing in). Hope it helps :wink:

I've only just noticed the reply. Thanks. Yeah I'd figured this technique out and is very useful on the tyre section. It didn't have a good effect on the sandbags though. I've figured out a way through now that seems to work most of the time.

Awesome game.
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Finally 1 credited this. A 1 player clear is definately possible.



A truely awesome game.
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In AP American History, we're learning about Vietnam and whatnot. One of the air strikes from the US was called Operation Rolling Thunder :o Pretty interesting stuff, dropped 3x the amount of tonnage of bombs from WW2 on Vietnam.
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dave4shmups wrote:The slowdown in the PS1 version is HORRIBLE when played on a PS2. Trust me, I own Namco Museum Encore, and that game was one of the main reasons I bought Encore.
I just popped this in to check, and you're right. The game plays at like half-speed. This game is pretty much the only reason I got Encore too. :(
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