Border Down Reprint

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:07 pm

It's not worth the current aBay asking prices, IMO. I got the Sega Direct LE at launch, and I actually prefer the artwork on the standard edition, although the OST that comes with the LE is excellent (if you're into Zuntata's stuff). It's a pretty game, professionally polished, but I wouldn't say it was as good as Gradius II (arcade) or R-Type I or II (arcade). It's just ever so slightly the wrong side of difficult for me (and I've completed X-Multiply, so I know the difference between a good challenge and an annoying challenge).

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:33 pm

bcass wrote:
Strider77 wrote:
well- what happens with hardware failure? My xbox/ps3 are more likely to die than my BD disc. Downloadable content SHOULD NEVER replace hard copies...
I agree with this strongly, it might be me being a bit old but I always want a physical version of any game I really like. I still play stuff that is pretty old. Once that console's online service is gone, so are those games if your hard drive srews up or needs a reformat ect.
You can back-up your XBLA and Wii VC games onto a memory card. Not sure about PS3 games downloaded from the PSN.

Full-fledged games & game demos downloaded from the Playstation Store Network are stored directly to the PS3's built-in HDD -- if that particular HDD isn't backed-up & it goes "up in smoke", it's hasta la vista, baby... ^_~

G.Rev knew from the get-go when it produced it's Border Down Limited Edition version of only 3,000 copies world-wide, that the secondary gaming collector's market would benefit monetary-wise from it and not them... ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:42 pm

The PS3 just uses standard IDE HDDs doesn't it? That measn it's a simple job of plugging it into a PC and backing up any files that way (although I'd imagine you could just use a USB memory stick seeing as the PS3 has USB ports).

Geezer · Post by **Geezer** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:51 pm

PC's can't read the PS3 HDD's file structure. You can't store games on memory sticks I'm afraid.

Anything you buy on a PS3 can be downloaded again on the same console, so replace the hard drive and redownload it.

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:55 pm

OK, so the PS3 is the exception of the 3 consoles then in that you can't backup your games (yet).

Frogacuda · Post by **Frogacuda** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:17 pm

I don't think a small reprint will have an appreciable effect on the long term value of this game. The difference in scarcity between a game with 10,000 copies and one with, say, 12,000 copies is not going to be noticeable.

If you just bought the game 2 weeks ago with the hopes of hawking it in 6 months, I understand your frustration, but most people have no business complaining.

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:02 pm

Ignore my previous post - actually, it is possible to backup all your PSN games with a PS3 using a USB hard drive (using the system backup feature).

bojay1997 · Post by **bojay1997** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:46 pm

I contacted both Play-Asia and NCSX and neither one thinks they will be able to stock the reprint. As such, I suspect there will probably be some on Ebay and Yahoo.JP auctions, but overall it won't be readily available. So, I guess all you speculators can rest easy.

Daigohji · Post by **Daigohji** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:56 pm

How disappointing. Essentially this is only going to benefit a handful of people within commuting distance of Akihabara? Any stray copies that find their way onto eBay will no doubt inflate to the same price as the original pressing, unless we're talking about a sudden glut of thousands.

Add me to the list of people hoping some generous forum member will be grabbing a stack of these to pass on at a reasonable price at the trading station.

dai jou bu · Post by **dai jou bu** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:02 am

exquisite_torture wrote: Did they learn anything from Senko no Ronde?

Yeah, they did:

- Don't let Ubisoft publish their games ever again.

- Continue to use the original name for the game's title. That's a really smart move right there.

- Additional knowledge of how to program on the Xbox 360, which will be used to help Treasure with that new shmup they're developing on it by providing the graphics engine for the game. Have you seen how awesome the background scrolls in Rev. X? They've made it look pretty believable. Image what else they can do with it with whatever new game they bring onto the platform.

J-Manic · Post by **J-Manic** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:35 am

dai jou bu wrote:
exquisite_torture wrote: Did they learn anything from Senko no Ronde?
Yeah, they did:

- Continue to use the original name for the game's title. That's a really smart move right there.

For real. lmao @ "WarTech".

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:39 am

For real. lmao @ "WarTech".

Stupid fucking white people.

louisg · Post by **louisg** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:21 am

GaijinPunch wrote:Stupid fucking white people.

Looks like ya got one for your avatar there.

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:27 am

GaijinPunch wrote:Stupid fucking white people.

Becoming more Japanese eh?

-Bridget- · Post by **-Bridget-** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:07 am

This does seem at least a little silly to me.

The DC certainly had some good points.... but Sega's braindead overall handling of the thing (I really do hate them), and (aside from shmups I wasnt aware of at the time of the thing being available) a lack of a really good game selection (in my view), killed the silly thing a long tme ago for me.

Heck, the only reason I even held onto it as long as I did was because it had Virtual On. That's it. It didnt get much use from me otherwise, and I wasnt into shmups back then, hadnt really "discovered" that genre.

I dont know anyone else that still has (or cares about) one anymore either. I havent even SEEN one in at least 2 years.

I'd sure as heck buy this if it were on XBLA or PSN. But noooooo, that'd make sense, by making it AVAILABLE to people. Too smart, perhaps?

Sooooo..... heck with that. Didnt know this was emulatable so easily, I'll just go find me a copy of that, real easy to do.

I do like G.Rev, but sometimes I wonder about them.....

neoalphazero · Post by **neoalphazero** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:29 am

-Bridget- wrote:

I'd sure as heck buy this if it were on XBLA or PSN. But noooooo, that'd make sense, by making it AVAILABLE to people. Too smart, perhaps?

Sooooo..... heck with that. Didnt know this was emulatable so easily, I'll just go find me a copy of that, real easy to do.

I do like G.Rev, but sometimes I wonder about them.....

Pretty simple really, G.Rev has made mention (many times) that their modest size crew likes working on new things, in lieu of over and over ports. Besides Triggerheart, Ikaruga, and REZ haven't exactly been pumped out for XBLA, it's taken a decent chunk of time to ready each. *-neo

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:15 am

louisg wrote: Looks like ya got one for your avatar there.

I will not hear another word against Malibu.

louisg · Post by **louisg** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:43 pm

GaijinPunch wrote: I will not hear another word against Malibu.

I don't know who that is, but he looks like he's ready to choke someone to death with his glam-hair.

icycalm · Post by **icycalm** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:25 pm

How pathetic we all are. "Shmups" are so dead that a reprint of a 5-year-old game is enough to keep us talking for three pages, while most of us are still unable to play the games of the one company that actually puts out great new games on a regular basis.

In a word: "Meh"

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:42 pm

hahahahahaaaa bitches.... thats what you get for not buying it day one.

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:44 pm

icycalm wrote:How pathetic we all are. "Shmups" are so dead that a reprint of a 5-year-old game is enough to keep us talking for three pages, while most of us are still unable to play the games of the one company that actually puts out great new games on a regular basis.

it´s not just any game though...

And I do not see what not having ports of the games of that "one company" has got to do with people talking for 3 pages about this reprint.
You just had to sound snobbish there didn´t you!?

Necronom · Post by **Necronom** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:03 pm

icycalm wrote:How pathetic we all are. "Shmups" are so dead that a reprint of a 5-year-old game is enough to keep us talking for three pages, while most of us are still unable to play the games of the one company that actually puts out great new games on a regular basis.

In a word: "Meh"

Yeah, Meh indeed. Although if this "one company" would be so kind and look beyond their little japanese arcade ghetto then we could actually stop being pathetic, you know.
Until this happens...

DBHashman93 · Post by **DBHashman93** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:02 pm

Add me to the list of people who would be MORE than willing to pay for a copy of the reprint if a forum member is able to pick some up! Been wanting to play this for a while now but the prices can get ridiculous...

louisg · Post by **louisg** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:28 am

icycalm wrote:most of us are still unable to play the games of the one company that actually puts out great new games on a regular basis.

Oh! You must mean G.Rev. Most of those are fairly easy to obtain, actually!

(eagerly awaiting Mamonoro)

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:43 am

would be so kind and look beyond their little japanese arcade ghetto

They did. 4 times last gen. Results were less than stellar all four times. Back to the ghetto.

Necronom · Post by **Necronom** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:46 am

@Gaijin
I guess you're right. Truth hurts. God bless Mame

icycalm · Post by **icycalm** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:24 pm

Super Laydock wrote:You just had to sound snobbish there didn´t you!?

No, I just had to say what was on my mind. If it sounded "snobbish" to you there's nothing I can do about that. The problem is with your ears.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:16 pm

People bitch and moan about companies not reprinting their games. They finally do, and people bitch and moan about not porting them.

jp · Post by jp » Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:45 pm

I for one am glad Border Down is being reprinted and more people can get destroyed by it.

Balzac · Post by **Balzac** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:55 pm

I might be hitting up Akihabara on the 17th and would consider lining up early....anyone know good directions to Messe Sanoh?