Shmups with BAD SFX

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:29 am

Show how much you learned and post some scores Toby.

Zeether · Post by **Zeether** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:36 am

Wow, it seems every topic involving "best/worst" on here has dissolved into a flame war

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:58 am

Twiddle wrote:part of learning the shikigami no shiro series (possibly extends to any shooter) is to resist pressing the start button after you lose all your lives the second or third run through, regardless of whether you have a credit limit or not

also, a 1 at the end of your score does not count as a 1cc

Why the hell everyone thinks I continue on Shikigami no Shiro I, II, and III?

A continue is always rare on my part.

I never understand, because this comment is all coming from you, JoshF and shoesama.

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:01 am

Hey hey I never said you use continues.

game over stage 2

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:05 am

shoe-sama wrote:Hey hey I never said you use continues.

game over stage 2

Game Over Stage 5-1 on SnSII.

Sonic R · Post by **Sonic R** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:06 am

2cc

easy games suck!

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:12 am

Sonic R wrote:2cc

easy games suck!

One of the few times I use a continue.

But really two continues to beat a game you didn't play for six months is a problem.

On-Topic: I think some of the PC Engine games had some terrible SEs.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:17 am

JoshF wrote:The Mega Drive was notorious for having horrible MSX-style scrolling and the least amount of scrolling layers out of all the consoles in the generation.

Don't you think that's a bit too much bait to put on a hook?

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:33 am

Fuck Sega and their fans.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:40 am

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:47 am

JoshF wrote:Fuck Sega and their fans.

Out of bounds.

jp · Post by jp » Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:09 am

Sonic R wrote:2cc

easy games suck!

Heh, indeed.

At any rate, I honestly cannot think of a shmup with bad sound effects.

I tried, but I rarely notice the SFX, mostly just the music.

Though I'll say Planet Joker has horrible sound effects since I can't even remember that game having sound. I guess I blocked it out or something.

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:48 am

Is this a joke topic? Anyway, I feel many 2600 shmups have poor sound effects. A few of those have excellent gameplay that makes up for it, though.

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:53 am

The only one that comes to mind is the Psikyo Shooter Collection with the Strikers games on it. And the sound effects aren't bad, so much as the Hayate in Part II has shots that are WAY too loud and high pitched. They can get annoying real fast. I don't have the same problem when MAMEing it, but damn if the PS2 collection doesn't drive me insane.

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:01 am

Arvandor wrote:The only one that comes to mind is the Psikyo Shooter Collection with the Strikers games on it. And the sound effects aren't bad, so much as the Hayate in Part II has shots that are WAY too loud and high pitched. They can get annoying real fast. I don't have the same problem when MAMEing it, but damn if the PS2 collection doesn't drive me insane.

it looks bloody awful to boot

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:53 am

Fighter17 wrote:
Twiddle wrote:part of learning the shikigami no shiro series (possibly extends to any shooter) is to resist pressing the start button after you lose all your lives the second or third run through, regardless of whether you have a credit limit or not

also, a 1 at the end of your score does not count as a 1cc
Why the hell everyone thinks I continue on Shikigami no Shiro I, II, and III?

A continue is always rare on my part.

I never understand, because this comment is all coming from you, JoshF and shoesama.

The only way anyone could think SNS 3 is easier than SNS 2 is that SNS 3 provides you with no credit limit. Barring that, SNS 3 is much more restrictive and has awesomely sadistic level design, especially in comparison to 2. Only someone who keeps pressing start after they lose all their lives would say 3 is easier.

worstplayer · Post by **worstplayer** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:43 am

gameoverDude wrote:
worstplayer wrote:Everything on Genesis.

And everything with high-pitched voices.
So, you are telling us that Darius II, Gaiares, MUSHA, Thunder Force TFII, TFIII, and TFIV have bad SFX? LOL. You're not serious.

I'm dead serious. I like MD, but it's sound is just bad. I haven't played all games you mentioned, but Darius, TF4 and MUSHA all have shitty SFX. I like musha and TF music but all shots and explosions sound like various farts. And i won't even talk about awful 1-bit digitized samples most MD games use.

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:49 pm

Twiddle wrote:The only way anyone could think SNS 3 is easier than SNS 2 is that SNS 3 provides you with no credit limit. Barring that, SNS 3 is much more restrictive and has awesomely sadistic level design, especially in comparison to 2. Only someone who keeps pressing start after they lose all their lives would say 3 is easier.

Wrong.

I found SnS3 to be much more easier than 2.

Two was a pain.

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:06 pm

Gradius Galaxies. Oh the sound effects were badass. For one of the first GBA games, yeah!

I cannot say the same for the music, however.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:26 pm

Fighter17 wrote:
Twiddle wrote:The only way anyone could think SNS 3 is easier than SNS 2 is that SNS 3 provides you with no credit limit. Barring that, SNS 3 is much more restrictive and has awesomely sadistic level design, especially in comparison to 2. Only someone who keeps pressing start after they lose all their lives would say 3 is easier.
Wrong.

I found SnS3 to be much more easier than 2.

Two was a pain.

Of course it's easier, SnS 3 has free play

Your baseless statements (if you can call them statements, even) fail to convince me that you aren't actually creditfeeding, considering seasoned players can get to 3-2 or 4-1 on the first credit of SnS 2 on the first try but have to put in three to five times the amount of time to get to the same points in SnS 3 coherently on the first credit (invisible walls in stage 3 and literal bullet walls and actual patterns in stage 4, fun!)

edit: also, on the first credit means the last digit on your score is 0, not 1

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:55 pm

Twiddle wrote:Of course it's easier, SnS 3 has free play

Your baseless statements (if you can call them statements, even) fail to convince me that you aren't actually creditfeeding, considering seasoned players can get to 3-2 or 4-1 on the first credit of SnS 2 on the first try but have to put in three to five times the amount of time to get to the same points in SnS 3 coherently on the first credit (invisible walls in stage 3 and literal bullet walls and actual patterns in stage 4, fun!)

edit: also, on the first credit means the last digit on your score is 0, not 1

I swear you're not getting it.

People find TF IV easier than others (I find it hard). I find SnS3 much easier than two. And stop saying that I credit feed, you're pissing me off because that's not true period. And why you keep saying Free Play? If you don't credit feed you don't care if it has free play or not.

My goodness Twiddle, do you have a job or something?

jp · Post by jp » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:29 pm

Fighter17 wrote:
Twiddle wrote:Of course it's easier, SnS 3 has free play

Your baseless statements (if you can call them statements, even) fail to convince me that you aren't actually creditfeeding, considering seasoned players can get to 3-2 or 4-1 on the first credit of SnS 2 on the first try but have to put in three to five times the amount of time to get to the same points in SnS 3 coherently on the first credit (invisible walls in stage 3 and literal bullet walls and actual patterns in stage 4, fun!)

edit: also, on the first credit means the last digit on your score is 0, not 1
I swear you're not getting it.

People find TF IV easier than others (I find it hard). I find SnS3 much easier than two. And stop saying that I credit feed, you're pissing me off because that's not true period. And why you keep saying Free Play? If you don't credit feed you don't care if it has free play or not.

My goodness Twiddle, do you have a job or something?

You've already said you credit feed though...

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:36 pm

Fighter17 wrote:
Twiddle wrote:Of course it's easier, SnS 3 has free play

Your baseless statements (if you can call them statements, even) fail to convince me that you aren't actually creditfeeding, considering seasoned players can get to 3-2 or 4-1 on the first credit of SnS 2 on the first try but have to put in three to five times the amount of time to get to the same points in SnS 3 coherently on the first credit (invisible walls in stage 3 and literal bullet walls and actual patterns in stage 4, fun!)

edit: also, on the first credit means the last digit on your score is 0, not 1
I swear you're not getting it.

People find TF IV easier than others (I find it hard). I find SnS3 much easier than two. And stop saying that I credit feed, you're pissing me off because that's not true period. And why you keep saying Free Play? If you don't credit feed you don't care if it has free play or not.

My goodness Twiddle, do you have a job or something?

see above post

and whether i have a job or not is irrelevant to you spouting fabrications and conflicting infromation

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:39 pm

jp wrote:You've already said you credit feed though...

Very rare.

Hyper Duel is one, and maybe that's it.

Mania shooters I never credit feed because that's a waste of time.

Now if you claim that I credit feed in all shmups then you must be mistaken.

Twiddle wrote:and whether i have a job or not is irrelevant to you spouting fabrications and conflicting infromation

Fabrications, lol.

What about is it you that's having problems with SnS3.

I said enough in the matter. Keep saying the information over and over is not going to change your opinion because you think I'm "scum." And by saying "scum" you're not really a good person and I'm very disappointed in that.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:50 pm

Fighter17 wrote:Mania shooters I never credit feed because that's a waste of time.

Now if you claim that I credit feed in all shmups then you must be mistaken.

your scores for sns3 and sns2 are suspiciously absent from http://shmups.system11.org/viewforum.php?f=2

Twiddle wrote:and whether i have a job or not is irrelevant to you spouting fabrications and conflicting infromation
Fabrications, lol.

What about is it you that's having problems with SnS3.

surprisingly i don't have that much of a problem with sns 3 because it had the right kind of challenge (getting to the lamp nodes that made the walls visible in stage 3 was a complete blast) when i was still playing it

in comparison to sns 2 which was absolutely effortless as i had no problem getting to the boss of 4-2 on my second try and i think i had to do the same amount of moving my player avatar as a touhou game

I said enough in the matter. Keep saying the information over and over is not going to change your opinion because you think I'm "scum." And by saying "scum" you're not really a good person and I'm very disappointed in that.

there are well-founded reasons why you are objectively scum (and for those very reasons you are still allowed to post in these forums just for the comedy value obtained from such, keep it up!), though those are irrelevant to the content in this thread and your arguments in it

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:56 pm

Does this always happen? Does this calm quickly? Or is this going to be locked too?

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:56 pm

Scum is a horrible thing to call someone, it must've upset your noble sensibilities.

On Topic: TF's popcorn explosion SFX are very pleasingu.

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:56 pm

I´d post something on-topic but I fear derailing the ongoing flamewar.

Anyways: The laser sound in Omega Fighter is pretty annoying. DRIIIIIIII!

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:59 pm

you know what the worst sound effect is try resetting gallop yeah that's the worst sound effect ever

Limbrooke wrote:This forum sucks

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:59 pm

Twiddle wrote:our scores for sns3 and sns2 are suspiciously absent from http://shmups.system11.org/viewforum.php?f=2

I don't play for score, only survival.

Twiddle wrote:there are well-founded reasons why you are objectively scum (and for those very reasons you are still allowed to post in these forums just for the comedy value obtained from such, keep it up!)

Your sense of humor is disgusted and being a person (you) who like to start spam wars clearly has a problem.

Talking about bad things to other members all time is asking for bad luck on your part.