ST: Raiden Fighters Jet (WIP)

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:26 pm

You are awesome. Updating.

Macaw · Post by **Macaw** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:33 pm

Attempting to challenge Icarus's Battle Garegga ST for 'who can make the biggest mode complicated strategy guide on shmups' eh?

*EDIT: My personal favorite diagram so far:

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:37 pm

Probably.

sht_ycw79 · Post by **sht_ycw79** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:54 pm

LEVEL 1 (large or middle size enemies only)

small turret (Q.S =10000pts) :20
middle size helicopter : total 9 helicopters (Q.S =30000pts) :60*9
Large Tanks (Q.S=100000pts,Destroyed at a time =100000pts)
->100000*3+100000*3 : 200*6=1200
middle size aircraft : Q.S=50000pts, total 2 aircraft =>100*2

boss : 1) Parts: small turret*2 (50000*2)+Large turret(100000*2)+Destroyed at a time(100000*2)=500000pts =>1000
2) body=> 100000+100000pts : 400

miclus : 100000pts : 200

total ability score(only large or middle size enemies) =20+540+1200+200+1000+400+200=3560
small size aircraft & tank -> total score~0.1mil pts-> ability=200+-30

Alamone's video : lv1 ability =3752

Macaw · Post by **Macaw** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:55 pm

I did not find your diagrams for the first boss very helpful, so I made my own strategy diagram for it:

sht_ycw79 · Post by **sht_ycw79** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:08 pm

In lv 45-any boss was not timed out & 100000pts. mode : yes->phase1
no->lv 50

scratch bonus : red hit box
normal ship(including slave) : 20~2220pts/frame (1sec=54 frame)
->20 pts+40pts+60pts+.......+max2220pts

fairy : fixed 2220pts/frame
->2220pts+.....+2220pts
~approximately 130000pts/sec

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:52 pm

So you can still die twice and still get Real Battle?

sht_ycw79 · Post by **sht_ycw79** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:03 pm

yes!
lv1 to lv30 (no miss)-level45(2miss)->phase1
possible route(2miss)

lv1 to lv10(2miss)->lv30->lv40->ph1
lv1 to lv5(1miss)->lv15(1miss)->lv20 to lv40(no miss)->ph1
lv1 to lv5(no miss)->lv15(2miss)->lv20(no miss)->lv40(no miss)->ph1
lv1 to lv5(no miss)->lv15(1miss)->lv20(1miss)->lv40(no miss)->ph1
lv1 to lv30 (no miss)-level45(2miss)->phase1

2nd loop of CYM's superplay is somthing wrong..there is some bug..
2nd loop Sim lv 20, Crashed briefing screen..
lv 40,Briefing title was lv10(why?)
probably bug..

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:12 pm

The crashed screen is probably a rom error, though it didn't seem to affect gameplay much.

Does the 2220/fr bonus for Fairy still apply in RF2? That seems to be the fighter of choice for high scorers in that game.

sht_ycw79 · Post by **sht_ycw79** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:18 pm

RF2

All ships : fixed scratch bonus (2220pts/frame)

RFJ

normal ships & slave : scratch chain (20-2220pts/frame)

fairy : fixed (2220pts/frame)

RF1 to RFJ

The game rank strongly depend on the main shot power up status.

8pow up aircraft(such as Judge Spear) : 1st & 2nd stage,lower rank than normal ships.

Bonus!! ^-^

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:24 pm

Haha. Where was that from?

sht_ycw79 · Post by **sht_ycw79** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:32 am

my ability score equation is wrong..

ability score=((std. point)/500)*(stage number) :assumed

technical score is 0 : tot. score =ability*earned medals*1
technical score is not 0 : tot. score =ability*earned medals*technical score
ability = (Std score)/500+?(usually small +-30~100) : (assumed)

for level1
small size aircraft (std. score=1000pts)=> ability=1000/500 =2
middle size aircraft(std. score=5000pts)=>ability=5000/500 =10
large size aircraft(std. score=10000pts) or large ground enemies=>ability=10000/500 =20
Quick shot (std.score*10)=>ex. middle size aircraft(std score=5000pts):ability=5000*10/500=100
Destroyed at a time => 100000/500=200
Destroyed the miclus =>100000/500=200
fairies(kill & collect)=> no score
DX bonus =>200,400,800
combo effect(ex. x1,x2,...x9)=>none

(Ability score is decreased by:
killing fairies (high modifier)
dying (high modifier)
staying at the bottom of the screen (low modifier) )->no effect

US/Asia ver. only : last stage(lv35,lv50,ph2) =>ability=(normal stage ability)/10 =(std. score or other bonuses)*stagenumber/5000

stage number

lv1 : 1
lv5 : 2
lv10&15 :3
lv20&30 :4(?)
lv35&40&45 :5
lv50 ,ph1: 6
ph2:7

stage ability score calculation is a difficult problem.
I need more experiment..
ex) lv1 : small aircraft -> ability score is 2
lv5 : small aircraft -> ability score is 4

sht_ycw79 · Post by **sht_ycw79** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:14 pm

STAGE PATHS(full version)

(LV1~LV5): two miss?->yes :go to LV10
no :go to LV15

LV10 : no miss?->yes : go to LV30
no : go to LV20
LV15 : no miss?->yes :go to LV30
no : go to LV20
LV20 : continue?->yes : go to LV30
no : (enemy destruction percentage 98% over
& medal colledtion(90% over))->yes :go to LV40
->no : go to LV35
LV30 : (LV1 to LV30: no miss) ->yes :go to LV45
->no : go to LV40
LV35 : clear->ALL1 or 2nd loop

LV40 : (no miss & special medal mode& all boss was not timed out)
:yes ->PHASE1
no->[continue? : more than 3times->LV35
less than 3times ->LV50]

LV45 : (special medal mode& all boss was not timed out)->yes: PHASE1
no : LV50
LV50 : clear->ALL2 or 2nd loop
PHASE1 : (no miss & no continue)->PHASE2-
->PHASE2 boss->True Last boss :ALL3 or 2nd loop
(ending :10mil clear bonus)
PHASE1 : (continued or miss) -> PHASE2 boss : ALL3(bad ending)
(1mil. clear bonus) or 2nd loop

STAGE PATH at 2nd loop : same

1st loop(2miss)->2-LV1->2-LV5->2-LV10...
1st loop (1miss)->2-LV1 to LV5(1miss)->2-LV10

sht_ycw79 · Post by **sht_ycw79** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:36 pm

My play vid.
lv1 to lv15..
memory problem...I could not record all replay.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoHbTntMx_4

landshark · Post by **landshark** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:07 am

Nice video - I wish I could read the score up in the corner at the end of each level.

sht_ycw79 · Post by **sht_ycw79** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:37 am

LV1 : 10mil.over
LV5 : missed combo(100000ptsX4+ability score)..45.8million pts.
LV15 : kusoplay..(-_-; ) . killed fairy..technical point -1..
& combo miss.. ~57.5million pts(before boss battle)

sht_ycw79 · Post by **sht_ycw79** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:45 am

Double Beta

Most powerful ships in RFJ!!

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:24 pm

Does JS/Blue Javelin have a combine attack?

sht_ycw79 · Post by **sht_ycw79** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:33 pm

no~..MkII & beta only .

Macaw · Post by **Macaw** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:06 pm

So for the fairy in the tank bit of stage 1, is there any way to make sure it doesn't fly up into the middle of medals making it impossible to collect fast enough to chain? Has it been proven this is just luck based?

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:14 pm

If you don't "duck down" right as the fairy goes up after you bomb (doing this timed improperly will cause you to collect the fairy) the fairy's position is pretty much luck based.

Macaw · Post by **Macaw** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:34 am

Got the INH DVD and watched the 200 million JAP version replay. Holy shit.

Kaiser · Post by **Kaiser** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:30 pm

I discovered sim 15 conditions:

Sim 15 moves to sim 30 if you no-missed whole stage + collected most of medals, moves to 20 otherwise if you lost one life at least

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:39 pm

Macaw wrote:Got the INH DVD and watched the 200 million JAP version replay. Holy shit.

You got the bonus disc?

Macaw · Post by **Macaw** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:05 am

sht_ycw79 · Post by **sht_ycw79** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:41 am

OMAKE disc contain two videos,
1st RFJ 200mil over
2st New pattern vs Old Patterns

The pattern of OMAKE video is too hard..

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:42 am

How can you get the omake disc, anyway? I probably have to order it again or something stupid

Macaw · Post by **Macaw** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:17 am

I just ordered it from playasia about 2 weeks ago and it came with the omake disc.. strange you didn't receive it.

And yeah, the new pattern is too hardcore, especially the way the player leaves the row of fairies in stage 2 right till the last possible second to chain them into the boss stuff.

Pulstar · Post by **Pulstar** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:35 pm

Macaw wrote:I just ordered it from playasia about 2 weeks ago and it came with the omake disc.. strange you didn't receive it.

And yeah, the new pattern is too hardcore, especially the way the player leaves the row of fairies in stage 2 right till the last possible second to chain them into the boss stuff.

I got mine from Japan and the only bonus disc I got was a Raiden III DVD, showing the first three stages done on 1 life.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:13 pm

I may be updating this again in the near future. Not this month, though.

edit: Also haha whoops some of the images in this thread are permanently gone

I'll remake them when I start playing again (not going to be soon)