Viewpoint vs Viewpoint.

SPACE HARRIER · Post by **SPACE HARRIER** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:09 pm

I was wondering wich version do you like the most?

The old NEO-GEO version or the new PLAYSTATION version??

superhitachi4 · Post by **superhitachi4** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:35 pm

Neo version all the way.

Gemant · Post by **Gemant** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:31 pm

neo geo version is invincible

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:40 pm

I sold my MVS cart and now I am somewhat regret :(

I still have my PS1 copy though. Neo-Geo all the way.

Post by **Dave_K.** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:45 pm

I prefer the pre-rendered look of the PS than that of the NeoGeo, but those god damn pauses/reloading times whenever you die absolutly kill the expierence on the PS.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:26 pm

Dave_K. wrote:I prefer the pre-rendered look of the PS than that of the NeoGeo, but those god damn pauses/reloading times whenever you die absolutly kill the expierence on the PS.

I don't mind any of the pauses or load screens, just the lousy control compared to the Neo Geo arcade rev. In addition to MVS, it is also avaiable for the Neo Geo CD console, BTW.

LoneSage · Post by **LoneSage** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:08 pm

Whoa those side-by-side screens make the PS1 looks sexah.

Unfortunately, I only have the Genesis version under my belt. If you guys think the PS1 loading is bad, stay away from the Genesis port...graphics look awesome, as is the music, but the slowdown, man.

Skyline · Post by **Skyline** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:02 am

Although the PS1 version looks damn good, it doesn't play that well. The framerate isn't that great, and as a result plays a bit choppy when compared to the MVS version.

Quite possibly the biggest reason why the PS1 port pales in comparison is the music. It's completely butchered.

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:05 am

The playstation version is complete, utter shit. Shit, I tells ya! Completely worthless. Sure, they fixed up the graphics but the framerate/frame skipping problems render the game unplayable. The genesis version is more playable than the PSX one.

Post by **Dave_K.** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:38 am

Acid King wrote:The playstation version is complete, utter shit. Shit, I tells ya! Completely worthless. Sure, they fixed up the graphics but the framerate/frame skipping problems render the game unplayable. The genesis version is more playable than the PSX one.

Granted I only played it one night when I first got it (recently) but I didn't notice frameskipping (I play it on a PS2). It was worth the $2.99 I paied for it used at gamestop.

I stopped playing after that night because of the pauses/loading screens everytime you die.

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:27 am

Dave_K. wrote:
Acid King wrote:The playstation version is complete, utter shit. Shit, I tells ya! Completely worthless. Sure, they fixed up the graphics but the framerate/frame skipping problems render the game unplayable. The genesis version is more playable than the PSX one.
Granted I only played it one night when I first got it (recently) but I didn't notice frameskipping (I play it on a PS2). It was worth the $2.99 I paied for it used at gamestop. I stopped playing after that night because of the pauses/loading screens everytime you die.

Yeah, I got a copy for a few bucks many years ago. The first stage isn't too bad, but starting about midway through the second, it becomes ridiculous. I'd really like to see a superplay of the PSX version simply to see how awful it gets later on, since I've only seen up to the crab boss.

ROBOTRON · Post by **ROBOTRON** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:36 am

The Neo Geo version only.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:47 am

ROBOTRON wrote:The Neo Geo version only.

Agreed. The Genesis version isn't bad, but it cannot the original, IMO. Get it on MVS or Neo Geo CD, if you have either one of those platforms.

Neo Rasa · Post by **Neo Rasa** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:29 am

LoneSage wrote:Whoa those side-by-side screens make the PS1 looks sexah.

We all said that when we saw the original preview screenshots eleven years ago. But then we saw it in motion.

Marler · Post by **Marler** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:19 pm

NG all the way, I have both, but play the Neo-Geo CD version on my PS2
via an emulator, absolutely perfect.
And I have to say, the best soundtrack ever, always in my top 5 game music
list, along with Numan Athletics.
I think the Ps versions music is ok, but nowhere near the wonderful, over the
top, James Brown sampling sexiness that is the original.
More James Brown in shoot-em-ups please, game makers.
"GOOD GOD!"

Neo Rasa · Post by **Neo Rasa** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 4:55 am

Marler wrote:always in my top 5 game music
list, along with Numan Athletics.

I salute you.

gameoverDude · Post by **gameoverDude** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:14 am

The PS1 version is dogshit wrapped in gold foil, basically.

Better graphics? Sure. Yet this is all for naught when you take some serious framerate hits. When you are at the third boss, the frame skip kicks in with a vengeance and makes the game damn near unplayable.

The load times suck. Of course the NGCD version has no ingame loading since the game is completely in RAM.

The music on the PS1 is dross. When playing the PS1 version I really missed the stage 2 BGM from the Neo version. At least the 1st stage BGM on PS1 has a rather hilarious voice sample that sounds like "It's fucking hard!".

It's Neo-CD, Neo Home Cart, or MVS all the way. Barring that, probably X68000 or FM Towns. Nothing else is acceptable.

SPACE HARRIER · Post by **SPACE HARRIER** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:33 am

Haha,I see everybody loves the old version.

I always liked this kind of shmups.
It would be great if SAMMY brings out a follow up of the orginal game!

How about a follow up of ZAXXON..can you hear me SEGA?????

TNT,

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:03 pm

SPACE HARRIER wrote: How about a follow up of ZAXXON..can you hear me SEGA?????

That would mean "Killer app" for ANY of the next gen consoles.

Sadly it's probably not gonna happen.

Skyline · Post by **Skyline** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:22 pm

Wasn't this game supposed to be ported to the GBA?

Neo Rasa · Post by **Neo Rasa** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:54 pm

Super Laydock wrote:
SPACE HARRIER wrote: How about a follow up of ZAXXON..can you hear me SEGA?????
That would mean "Killer app" for ANY of the next gen consoles.

Sadly it's probably not gonna happen.

Remember Zaxxon Motherbase 2000 or whatever on the 32X?

D · Post by D » Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:50 pm

I love side by side comparisons.

someone should make a site with only side by side comparisons

mice · Post by **mice** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:34 pm

Don't know about the NG version, but the PS versions controlls were horrible! Pressing up, made you go straight up...not up/left as would be "normal" for the viewing point (no pun int).

Was this the case with the NG version as well? In that case, both sux.

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 4:37 pm

mice wrote:Don't know about the NG version, but the PS versions controlls were horrible! Pressing up, made you go straight up...not up/left as would be "normal" for the viewing point (no pun int).

Was this the case with the NG version as well? In that case, both sux.

If I remember correctly, there was a way to change the controls on the PSX.

Herr Schatten · Post by **Herr Schatten** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 4:46 pm

Acid King wrote:
mice wrote:Don't know about the NG version, but the PS versions controlls were horrible! Pressing up, made you go straight up...not up/left as would be "normal" for the viewing point (no pun int).

Was this the case with the NG version as well? In that case, both sux.
If I remember correctly, there was a way to change the controls on the PSX.

But not on the Megadrive version, iirc. This really killed the game.

boagman · Post by **boagman** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:23 am

Oh, this thread is just making me cry tears of joy. People on this forum really *do* have good taste.

And to those who love the music on this game, you are SO DARNED RIGHT!

grovsnus · Post by **grovsnus** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:14 am

Neo Geo version for me. It's a complete package of delightfulness. Also, I think I am the best Viewpoint player in the world. At least I've never met anyone better than me.

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:18 am

What's the point of this poll, I thought the playstation version was a recognized Crime Against Shmupping Humanity.

One of the few installments where you won't find a person supporting it, ever. (the exception to Ghegs' rule?)

szycag · Post by **szycag** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:29 am

grovsnus: There's a conversation going on in Rob's 91-95 arcade thread that might interest you concerning who's the best at Viewpoint

Gemant · Post by **Gemant** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:37 pm

grovsnus wrote: Also, I think I am the best Viewpoint player in the world. At least I've never met anyone better than me.

hi hi

score please

nobody can beat IMU-AT2 in the world.

and however, I have western hi-score from 1999

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