MAME code used in Oretachi Geisen Zoku Thunder Cross

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:58 pm

This is already 6 months old, but I never read about it until now.

http://namakoteam.com/news.php?id=147

So they used MAME to emulate Thunder Cross, and apparently without permission. And since it was used in that game, chances are it was used in others as well.

Probably reason enough not to buy any (more) of the Oretachi Geisen Zoku releases...

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:08 pm

If this news were a person, it would look like this:

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:20 pm

Yeah, this is olds. But a search here didn't come up with anything (which, given how crappy the search engine is doesn't mean that it really wasn't discussed)...

HeLGeN-X · Post by **HeLGeN-X** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:20 am

CIT wrote:If this news were a person, it would look like this:

Literally laughing out loud.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:24 am

this is an outrage

suddenly I feel especially justified in not having bought the Contra or Haunted Castle ports - I wasn't going to anyway, of course

Our Game Center: Have Some Obsolete MAME Code!

zinger · Post by **zinger** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:17 am

Ceph wrote:This is already 6 months old, but I never read about it until now.

http://namakoteam.com/news.php?id=147

So they used MAME to emulate Thunder Cross, and apparently without permission. And since it was used in that game, chances are it was used in others as well.

Probably reason enough not to buy any (more) of the Oretachi Geisen Zoku releases...

Tatio Memories do too, AFAICR. Don't know if they had permission to do so.

D · Post by D » Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:19 am

I once posted how the metal slug collection used dumped mame roms.
Nobody replied

I was the only one surprised.

rtw · Post by **rtw** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:40 am

zinger wrote:Tatio Memories do too, AFAICR. Don't know if they had permission to do so.

The Taito Memories was supported by MAME developers. It does not
use MAME code directly but it uses the ROM's.

Konami have been nice to MAME. Do you think that MAME will
challenge them ?

rtw

mikwuyma · Post by **mikwuyma** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:47 pm

D wrote:I once posted how the metal slug collection used dumped mame roms.
Nobody replied
I was the only one surprised.

Hey don't knock Metal Slug Anthology, they added a great new feature to the ps2 version, input lag! It makes the first game unplayable, woo!

Frogacuda · Post by **Frogacuda** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:25 pm

This is exactly why people that cry about freeware emulation being wrong need to STFU. The emulation scene makes a lot of these retro compilations possible. Even ones that don't directly use code from these emulators benefit from the documentation. Commercial emulation would not be as good if freeware emulation wasn't pushing things forward.

Post by **Shatterhand** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:46 pm

mikwuyma wrote:
D wrote:I once posted how the metal slug collection used dumped mame roms.
Nobody replied
I was the only one surprised.
Hey don't knock Metal Slug Anthology, they added a great new feature to the ps2 version, input lag! It makes the first game unplayable, woo!

really? I didn't notice it...

mikwuyma · Post by **mikwuyma** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:25 pm

Shatterhand: It's not very noticeable in Metal Slugs 2-5 (actually 5 might not have any), but 1 has at least a half a second of input lag. It makes the simplest things impossible to do, like dodging the first boss's attacks.

IIRC, 6 doesn't have any input lag because the developers used code from the PS2 port.

yojo! · Post by **yojo!** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:14 pm

mikwuyma wrote:Shatterhand: It's not very noticeable in Metal Slugs 2-5 (actually 5 might not have any), but 1 has at least a half a second of input lag. It makes the simplest things impossible to do, like dodging the first boss's attacks.

IIRC, 6 doesn't have any input lag because the developers used code from the PS2 port.

Do the XBOX and Wii ports have similar issues ?

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:15 pm

xbox MS3/4/5 don't have a problem with input lag

mikwuyma · Post by **mikwuyma** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:17 pm

The PS2 ports of 3, 4, and 5 don't have input lag either; it's only in the anthology

Post by **Shatterhand** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:18 pm

mikwuyma wrote:Shatterhand: It's not very noticeable in Metal Slugs 2-5 (actually 5 might not have any), but 1 has at least a half a second of input lag. It makes the simplest things impossible to do, like dodging the first boss's attacks.

IIRC, 6 doesn't have any input lag because the developers used code from the PS2 port.

Well, it makes sense. I've played 3 and 6 the most, having already 1cc 1 a long time ago.....

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:54 pm

Frogacuda wrote:This is exactly why people that cry about freeware emulation being wrong need to STFU. The emulation scene makes a lot of these retro compilations possible. Even ones that don't directly use code from these emulators benefit from the documentation. Commercial emulation would not be as good if freeware emulation wasn't pushing things forward.

There are people out there complaing about freeware emulation? Isn't that like killing puppies, complain about Santa, hating strawberry cakes... Really, what terrible childhood trauma did they endure to become so disgusted with life's best things (which as everyone knows are free)?

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:38 pm

Being collectors who resell at jacked-up prices.

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