Rez, Ikaruga, Trigger Heart CONFIRMED for Xbox Live!

jpolz · Post by **jpolz** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 2:58 pm

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs. ... ive-arcade

Hopefully they're not Japan only.

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:12 pm

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 7&start=60

Specineff · Post by **Specineff** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:59 pm

Such great is the joy of these announcements, that it compelled to the creation of three posts about them.

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:05 pm

Specineff wrote:Such great is the joy of these announcements, that it compelled to the creation of three posts about them.

Well, only REZ HD would have been enough to get my head turned...
Now if only they create some additional music/graphs/levels for this it would tempt me into getting a 360... The fact that it´ll probably download only is off/putting though.

Whatever console gets Rez 2 will surely get my money though...

kemical · Post by **kemical** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:15 pm

not to mention Omega Five..! looks great

JJG · Post by **JJG** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:20 pm

I can't see Ikaruga HD looking that much better than it does on DC with a tated CRT. This is really great news though, I mean the other day there was a thread where people were wondering which console would be the new one for shmups. I think we'll see what happens but Omega 5 is a really good sign.

KNTain · Post by **KNTain** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:39 pm

I can't see Ikaruga HD looking that much better than it does on DC with a tated CRT

It's pretty safe to assume it'll be 540x720 progressive. Not a huge leap, but probably a noticeable one.

Necronom · Post by **Necronom** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:47 pm

JJG wrote:I can't see Ikaruga HD looking that much better than it does on DC with a tated CRT. This is really great news though, I mean the other day there was a thread where people were wondering which console would be the new one for shmups. I think we'll see what happens but Omega 5 is a really good sign.

Visual quality of DC (VGA) version + extraoptions from the gamecube port = definite version

JJG · Post by **JJG** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:53 pm

Necronom wrote:Visual quality of DC (VGA) version + extraoptions from the gamecube port = definite version

For like ten dollars, can't go wrong.

MathU · Post by **MathU** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:29 pm

Where the hell is my WiiWare already?

Sundance · Post by **Sundance** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:14 pm

Kotaku.com makes a good point about Omega Five.

"As blank Dreamcast disc supplies begin to dwindle, could Xbox Live Arcade become a new haven for scrolling-shooter fans?"

http://kotaku.com/gaming/shmup/omega-fi ... 298972.php

This does seem a more likely alternative to the PS2 and definitely a cheaper one. I for one see this as the beginning of the end of material media. The days of buying games on CD/DVD/etc, in cases are numbered. And what's next?...but the eventual merging/marrying of console and pc.

Sorry...got off on a rant. Happens when i haven't slept for awhile

Necronom · Post by **Necronom** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:02 am

I guess in terms of digital distribution MS is really lightyears ahead of its competition. When I look at Nintendo it sometimes seems that they don't know what to do with alll this online stuff. Maybe XBL is MS's true console? A software console so to speak...ah, ok...whatever, it's late.

pixelcorps · Post by **pixelcorps** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:02 am

Sundance wrote:Kotaku.com makes a good point about Omega Five.

"As blank Dreamcast disc supplies begin to dwindle, could Xbox Live Arcade become a new haven for scrolling-shooter fans?"

http://kotaku.com/gaming/shmup/omega-fi ... 298972.php

This does seem a more likely alternative to the PS2 and definitely a cheaper one.

not actually true - you have to pay MS for QA on XBLA, it's not cheap. at all.

JJG · Post by **JJG** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:12 am

What is the price for QA on XBLA???

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:39 am

And what is QA?

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:14 am

professor ganson wrote:And what is QA?

Quality Assurance?

Battlesmurf · Post by **Battlesmurf** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:31 am

haha..well, I've used the online component of ps3- and I wasn;t thrilled (though it has been picking up)- for what's offered, $50 a year (or whatever it is) is a drop in the pond for what I'm getting out of live. Expensive my arse : P To me anwyays- it's totally worth it.

theevilfunkster · Post by **theevilfunkster** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:41 am

Achievements for Trigger Heart Exelica...

Exelica Normal Ending 10
Complete the game playing as Exelica (Normal Ending).

Crueltear Normal Ending 10
Complete the game playing as Crueltear (Normal Ending).

Exelica True Ending 20
Complete the game playing as Exelica (True Ending).

Crueltear True Ending 20
Complete the game playing as Crueltear (True Ending).

Score 50,000,000 10
Complete the game with a score of 50,000,000 points.

Score 100,000,000 20
Complete the game with a score of 100,000,000 points.

Destroy Faintear (Level 1) 15
Destroy Faintear in the first level.

Destroy Faintear (Level 3) 20
Destroy Faintear in the third level.

No Miss Clear 15
Complete the entire game without losing a life.

No Bomb Clear 15
Complete the entire game without using a bomb.

Hard Mode 1CC 20
Complete the entire game at the highest difficulty level and without using a continue.

Perfect Play 25
Destroy all the bosses and complete the entire game without dying at Normal difficulty or higher.

Oh, Rez HD just got released and it is the shit!

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:06 am

XBL is the best online console service and is cheap to me.... then again I'm a big boy now with a job.

kengou · Post by **kengou** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:12 am

Strider77 wrote:XBL is the best online console service and is cheap to me.... then again I'm a big boy now with a job.

Cheap? You know that Microsoft is the ONLY game console to charge money for online service? PC gamers have had free online play for years with just as much functionality. The Wii and PS3 don't charge for online service. What exactly are you paying them for? To host content on the xbox life marketplace? Steam on the PC does the exact same thing, Valve hosts content, with fast download rates, and it's free.

Sorry for the rant, but I just think it's ridiculous. I don't understand why people put up with it.

Koa Zo · Post by **Koa Zo** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:07 am

theevilfunkster wrote:
Oh, Rez HD just got released and it is the shit!

It was reported previously that Rez would utilize a 2nd controller as a TranceVibrator, but no one has actually confirmed this.

If anyone is playing RezHD could you provide confirmation that a 2nd controller actually provides complementary vibration function - not redundant to the first controller, but actually a completely different vibration scheme like the TranceVibrator?

Necronopticous · Post by **Necronopticous** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:36 am

I don't have a second controller, or I'd test it out.

I'd just like to say, Rez HD is the ultimate anti-homework.

theevilfunkster · Post by **theevilfunkster** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:43 am

Koa Zo wrote:
theevilfunkster wrote:
Oh, Rez HD just got released and it is the shit!
It was reported previously that Rez would utilize a 2nd controller as a TranceVibrator, but no one has actually confirmed this.

If anyone is playing RezHD could you provide confirmation that a 2nd controller actually provides complementary vibration function - not redundant to the first controller, but actually a completely different vibration scheme like the TranceVibrator?

I've tried it with a second controller but you can use up to 3 extra pads. The vibration of the second controller is quite different to what the main pad does and it's quite an experience, I'm almost tempted to buy a couple more pads

The default settings in the game have the vibration and the 5.1 turned off, so make sure to go through the options before playing.

zakk · Post by **zakk** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:52 am

I like how the HS achievement for Trigger Heart is a score that is realistic for the first stage of the game...

jp · Post by jp » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:56 am

zakk wrote:I like how the HS achievement for Trigger Heart is a score that is realistic for the first stage of the game...

*double checks high score thread*

What?

Also, is THE going to come out in the US? I have it on Dreamcast, but it would virtually be a free 200 achievement points for me.

jp · Post by jp » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:59 am

kengou wrote:
Strider77 wrote:XBL is the best online console service and is cheap to me.... then again I'm a big boy now with a job.
Cheap? You know that Microsoft is the ONLY game console to charge money for online service? PC gamers have had free online play for years with just as much functionality. The Wii and PS3 don't charge for online service. What exactly are you paying them for? To host content on the xbox life marketplace? Steam on the PC does the exact same thing, Valve hosts content, with fast download rates, and it's free.

Sorry for the rant, but I just think it's ridiculous. I don't understand why people put up with it.

Um, just to clear up some misconceptions you seem to have:
1. You only pay for an Xbox Live GOLD membership. With Gold, you can play games online and get free content a couple of weeks before other people. Since Microsoft has their own servers for games, they charge. Really, its not too bad paying $50 for a year and getting a great service like that. Its not like wasting $12+ a month on some shitty paint drying sim, I mean, MMORPG.

2. You don't have to have Gold to access the marketplace. You can download whatever you want with Silver, which is free.

And honestly, you get what you pay for. Xbox Live is far superior to the Wii and PS3s online gaming.

zakk · Post by **zakk** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:04 am

jp wrote:
zakk wrote:I like how the HS achievement for Trigger Heart is a score that is realistic for the first stage of the game...

*double checks high score thread*

What?

Also, is THE going to come out in the US? I have it on Dreamcast, but it would virtually be a free 200 achievement points for me.

You have to milk the shit out of the first boss to get it. When I was playing I couldn't quite pull it off right (my timing sucked on the last form), but if I'd stuck with the game I could have learned it.

The video on super-play is 130M after stage 1. I think I had one that was closer to 200M but it got eaten in a horrible disk failure.

jp · Post by jp » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:08 am

zakk wrote:
You have to milk the shit out of the first boss to get it. When I was playing I couldn't quite pull it off right (my timing sucked on the last form), but if I'd stuck with the game I could have learned it.

The video on super-play is 130M after stage 1. I think I had one that was closer to 200M but it got eaten in a horrible disk failure.

Wow... so the scoring in THE is horribly broken.

Well that sucks.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:45 am

Cheap? You know that Microsoft is the ONLY game console to charge money for online service? PC gamers have had free online play for years with just as much functionality. The Wii and PS3 don't charge for online service. What exactly are you paying them for? To host content on the xbox life marketplace? Steam on the PC does the exact same thing, Valve hosts content, with fast download rates, and it's free.

bla bla bla.... I get a great online matchups with no lag for the most part. most games have online play, then there is a shitload of live titles that are worth downloading. the package as a whole is great. not to mention the whole interface is incredibly well done and intuitive.

I don't use it at all on the PS3 or Wii.

Post by **spadgy** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:17 pm

True - for now we pay for a better service. But the fact that gold members get demos before silver members is pretty bad.