Mamoru-kun ha norowareteshimatta! (G.Rev, Emphasis on the !)

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:08 am

Are you on crack? Shikigami 1 looks like ass.

From the single screenshot I've seen of III it looks leagues better then both the others. I guess I'll have to see it in motion before a decision, but...

Frogacuda · Post by **Frogacuda** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:09 am

Twiddle wrote:the grev thread on 2ch just flooded with a hundred posts, but this is the most interesting of the junk i tried to googlebabel:

589: Name it is not the @ bullet fullest capacity: 2007/08/29 (water) 20:48: 32 ID: UFnBOkwS
If you mention [seibu] development, thunder and lightning III and IV makes moth (MOSS) is different?

590: Name it is not the @ bullet fullest capacity: 2007/08/29 (water) 20:51: 18 ID: Vq3FlhJM
>>587
[gurehu] meddling has made the system surface, it seems
>>589
The person of moth quitting work it is, - is being,

what?

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:12 am

Frogacuda wrote:
Twiddle wrote:the grev thread on 2ch just flooded with a hundred posts, but this is the most interesting of the junk i tried to googlebabel:

Block of nonsense.
what?

Yeah, explain please. I think the bottom mentions somebody quitting Moss.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:28 am

That's pretty much it. Can't make heads or tails of anything else that doesn't say anything that's already been said in this thread in there.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:33 am

Looking closely at the pictures in this months Arcadia, it graphically looks inferior to Under Defeat, Border Down, and Senko. It actually looks pretty bad, I'm going to have to say. Maybe I'll warm up to it.

boagman · Post by **boagman** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:40 am

GaijinPunch wrote:Looking closely at the pictures in this months Arcadia, it graphically looks inferior to Under Defeat, Border Down, and Senko. It actually looks pretty bad, I'm going to have to say. Maybe I'll warm up to it.

Well, I certainly don't care for the whole "cutesy anime characters" type of thing, nor am I the biggest fan of verts, and since that's what this thing's looking at, I have to admit to at least a modicum of disappointment. That being said, I've always believed that gameplay is the biggest factor, so I'm definitely keeping an open mind. It *is* GRev, after all. They've proven to be quite trustworthy, and even if this game isn't all that great, they've earned a free pass.

It's kind of like Pixar movies with me: they've had so many good ones in a row, that I'm willing to forgive the crappiness that was "Cars."

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:01 am

There's a substantial amount of info (4 pages) in this months issue. I'll take a stab at it later... going to go read a bit on the can. I did pick out one blurb that states the game will scroll in different directions (sideways, diagonal).

EDIT:
Okay, back from the shitter.
I read about half of it. Here's the highlights.

Galchi (or garuti or whatever) consists of old Raiden & Raiden Fighters developers. The three interviewees are G.Rev's Marumaya, and Chatani and Saitou from Galchi. Note that Saito worked at not only Seibu Kaihatsu, but also Moss. Kind of sad since Raiden III looks so lame compared to the rest of them.

The game will be "wafuu" of sorts. As you can tell from he illustrations the characters are wearing kimonos. However, one of the taglines taken from the interview is "Wa that doesn't adhere to Wa". (Wa means Japanese [style] in this sense).

At first glance it seemed it would be free-roaming, but that's not the case. There are different paths, and different stages/paths will scroll different ways (diagonal, sideways, etc.). The screen is TATE for those that haven't seen the screenshots.

The game will be playable at the AM show, and they will have a location test coming up.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:28 am

So that answers the question of who quit Moss.

Interest perked.

Frogacuda · Post by **Frogacuda** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:50 am

Hmm... is the shooting multidirectional, or just the scrolling?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:56 am

Looks like just the scrolling (from the pics). Didn't read anything that said otherwise.

Frogacuda · Post by **Frogacuda** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:41 am

Also, who is Chitani?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:04 am

Frogacuda wrote:Also, who is Chitani?

Chatani (sorry if I spelled that wrong) was a freelance programmer from 1999 until he formed Galchi (w/ Saitou) in 2006. It doesn't specifically state their connection w/ G.Rev but the whole product started when Chatani emailed G.Rev to tell them they started a company. Not strange for competitors to send flowers on anniversaries and shit, so maybe it was something like that.

Frogacuda · Post by **Frogacuda** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:36 am

I don't think arcade shooter developers see each other as competitors as much as champions of the same cause.

Treasure helped G.rev get started by offering a collaboration, so I imagine G.rev is balancing out their karma by doing the same for another company now that they have the opportunity.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:24 am

It's still all business. Everyone got paid. They just gave them the opportunity. It's a closed-knit community though. The G.Rev guys asked Chatani if he knew what happened to Saitou, to which Chatani replied, "He's our head of development" or something like that. I'm pretty sure they knew each other at some point.

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:55 am

OK let me get this straight, Saitou and Showichi Yano were behind the RF games series?

Did they also worked on the orginal Raiden series (I, II/DX, and what about Viper Phase I)?

Go Satou did all the music for just about all the Raiden shooters correct?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:17 pm

Fighter17 wrote: Did they also worked on the orginal Raiden series (I, II/DX, and what about Viper Phase I)?

According to the little blurb about him, he worked on Raiden II, DX, and "many other shooting games".

Wait for incognescente to jump in here... he will no doubt give you a time line of everyone that worked for Seibu Kaihatsu.

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:39 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:Wait for incognescente to jump in here... he will no doubt give you a time line of everyone that worked for Seibu Kaihatsu.

Complete with diagrams and a pie chart.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:42 pm

Official site is up:

http://www.grev.co.jp/mamonoro/

The co-developer is named Gulti.

Post by **Icarus** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:22 pm

EOJ wrote:Official site is up:
http://www.grev.co.jp/mamonoro/
The co-developer is named Gulti.

There goes my hopes of a game with visuals like an updated RFJ.
The mahou shoujo loli in the pink kimono looks like the main character from Nanatsuiro Drops.
I'd still play it, though, if it turns out to be the kind of awesome Moss could only dream of.
TYVM4headsup.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:07 am

Icarus wrote:There goes my hopes of a game with visuals like an updated RFJ.

Word. Grev and Gulchi should team up and make a new Raiden Fighters with grafx like Under Defeat.

Macaw · Post by **Macaw** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:23 am

CIT wrote:
Icarus wrote:There goes my hopes of a game with visuals like an updated RFJ.
Word. Grev and Gulchi should team up and make a new Raiden Fighters with grafx like Under Defeat.

You do realise that if that happens they will make all the RF ships be piloted by loli's.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:37 am

It worked for DOJ.

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:42 pm

CIT wrote:Word. Grev and Gulchi should team up and make a new Under Defeat with grafx like the old Under Defeat.

D · Post by D » Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:59 pm

CIT wrote:Word. Grev and Gulchi should team up and make a new Raiden Fighters with grafx like Under Defeat.

They Should make Raiden Fighters 3: 2D in 720P
Or Go nuts and create:
Seibu VS G-Rev: 2D in 720P

cigsthecat · Post by **cigsthecat** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:11 pm

They should totally make Under Defeat 2 : Tgs,wwwyg?

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:12 pm

If you put that through Enigma I'm going to have to choke you

J-Manic · Post by **J-Manic** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:28 pm

Damn. I was really hoping for a sequel to either Border Down or Under Defeat.

sideshow · Post by **sideshow** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 4:01 am

Maybe G-Rev doesnt want to do any sequels to their games?

Frogacuda · Post by **Frogacuda** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:31 pm

So is there a decent scan of the screenshots yet? This is taking far too long.

Stormwatch · Post by **Stormwatch** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:06 am