Mushihimesama PS2 pre-orders confirmed! (was: Is this real?)

TVG · Post by **TVG** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:39 pm

it290 wrote:Yeah, but if you consider the DC part of the current generation (I do), then the PS2 might not be crowned the champ just yet. I think it will be when its run is over, though.

that depends wether you're biased or not, imo.

mannerbot · Post by **mannerbot** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:49 pm

The vagrant wrote:that depends wether you're biased or not, imo.

It depends on your preferences really. Border Down, Ikaruga, Mars Matrix, Gunbird 2, Bangai-O... DreamCast doesn't have that many but what it has is great. Could make a case for the DC being a better shmup console than the PS2 if you wanted to.

And no, I don't consider the DC a part of this gen. It was in its own generation.

TVG · Post by **TVG** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:10 am

mannerbot wrote:
The vagrant wrote:that depends wether you're biased or not, imo.
It depends on your preferences really. Border Down, Ikaruga, Mars Matrix, Gunbird 2, Bangai-O... DreamCast doesn't have that many but what it has is great. Could make a case for the DC being a better shmup console than the PS2 if you wanted to.

And no, I don't consider the DC a part of this gen. It was in its own generation.

well, here comes the "unbiased" part.
just because someone prefers, say, super aleste over any 16 bit shmup, doesnt really make the snes the best 16 bit shmupping console, from an objective point of view that is.

that said, i prefer mars matrix over any next get shmup :p

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:12 am

Does anyone have an answer to the question I asked about the symbols/patterns in those pink/purple bullets? Just curious.

And I too personally think the DC was in a unique "mini" generation all its onw.

TVG · Post by **TVG** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:13 am

since the triangles are hardly visible in motion, i think its just a aesthetical thing.

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:16 am

I hope to hell this isn't some kind of mess up or joke. Not that I'm quite as excited by this game as others, but it would be great to see the Cave games coming out consistantly, plus I'm stoked about Ibara. Well what the hell, maybe our day has come afterall!

MovingTarget · Post by **MovingTarget** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:22 am

I dont understand why it hasnt been our time the whole time.

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:23 am

The vagrant wrote:since the triangles are hardly visible in motion, i think its just a aesthetical thing.

Ah, gotcha. Thanks.

Mushihime has me very interested in checking out Miyazaki's Nausicaa.

LASERBEAST · Post by **LASERBEAST** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:29 am

Good lord, please let this be for real. I don't have money right now anyway, but I am definitely picking this up. I've wanted it ever since I saw those replays on Ultra difficulty. Absolutely beautiful.

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:34 am

shariar07 wrote:Beat GameCube what shmup game does gamecube have to even compare to PS2 SHMUP library same with X-box (HALO 2 is not a shmup at all)

***Devil's advocate voice:***

Ikaruga !??

Not my view, but just thought I'd mention it before anyone else does!

mannerbot · Post by **mannerbot** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:43 am

Dylan1CC wrote:Mushihime has me very interested in checking out Miyazaki's Nausicaa.

Definitely have to.

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:45 am

Lamecube, Deadcast, X-balks, Gaystation Poo, Saturd, Stupor Nintendon't, Genisucks, Pee Sea engine omg

There, back to mushi now

Cugel · Post by **Cugel** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:00 am

I really hope the port doesn't suck. It would be a tragedy if the port is capped at 30 fps like GWG.

Anyone know if the PS2 can handle the port? Any thoughts on this?

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:13 am

Definitely worried as well. But hey, it handled the bullet-frenzy modes of DOJ and Espgaluda; can't see it not handling Mushi. Then again, I've never seen Mushi in person...

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:19 am

I don't care if it's 30 fps, I just want TATE. If they have to compromise and put maniac/ultra mode in non-tate in order to fit it in there fine, just so long as original mode and everything else have TATE modes.

cigsthecat · Post by **cigsthecat** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:14 am

I look forward to playing this for a month and then dropping it cold.

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:26 am

cigsthecat wrote:I look forward to playing this for a month and then dropping it cold.

Then why even buy it?

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:38 am

Probably because there's no way to rent it or anything to try it...

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:44 am

Ganelon wrote:Probably because there's no way to rent it or anything to try it...

Yeah true, but if I was of the same mindset I would try buying or mastering a game with a scoring system I consistently enjoyed instead. To each his own though.

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:50 am

He was being sarcastic

that is what most here do...if a month

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:55 am

Whether this is real or not I'm wishing that Arika was still halping Cave with this stuff, due to Taito's inconsistent track record with ports, but if this turns out to be real I might just spring for the pre-order in good faith...

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:02 am

BulletMagnet wrote:Whether this is real or not I'm wishing that Arika was still halping Cave with this stuff, due to Taito's inconsistent track record with ports, but if this turns out to be real I might just spring for the pre-order in good faith...

Yeah, I'm worried about Taito doing this a bit myself. Again, I know they don't care whether or not their games are ported, but I'm hoping Cave does at least a little quality assurance before Taito puts the port on the market.

cigsthecat · Post by **cigsthecat** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:18 am

Well, I'll probably enjoy it for that month. I've already found the 3-4 games I can play endlessly so I'm all set there.

Just seems to be my Cave routine.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:33 am

Can someone point out some recent Taito ports that suck balls to grade them against? I heard GWG was a turd to begin with.

I read a rumor about this on a Japanese shmup BBS board

and which board might that've been?

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:48 am

cigsthecat wrote:Well, I'll probably enjoy it for that month. I've already found the 3-4 games I can play endlessly so I'm all set there.

Just seems to be my Cave routine.

I know what you mean. I am trying to limit myself to 4 shmups that I plan on "mastering" in my lifetime: Progear, Garegga, DDP and Radiant. I'll probably never buy DOJ for this reason. I'd like to but I'd never have enough time to truly ace it.

EDIT: Assuming I like Mushi enough, that will be my 5th game to "master."

yojo! · Post by **yojo!** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:52 am

The vagrant wrote:
brand1bil wrote:
The vagrant wrote:after a bit of ressearch, i think taito is up to something, and not just this port but much stuff.
Like what? Tell me more!
they are re-releasing some of their titles, of which is shiki 1 and 2, that, and some weird thing named taito memories 1 and 2 is on the way.

I thought Tatio signed a deal with Empire in europe to release a taito collection DVD with 30 of their 80s arcade hits.

Lets dream a second an maybe Taito memories 1 and 2 are 60 arcade perfect games for PS2

.

MadSteelDarkness · Post by **MadSteelDarkness** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:00 am

Dylan1CC wrote:
cigsthecat wrote:Well, I'll probably enjoy it for that month. I've already found the 3-4 games I can play endlessly so I'm all set there.

Just seems to be my Cave routine.
I know what you mean. I am trying to limit myself to 4 shmups that I plan on "mastering" in my lifetime: Progear, Garegga, DDP and Radiant. I'll probably never buy DOJ for this reason. I'd like to but I'd never have enough time to truly ace it.

EDIT: Assuming I like Mushi enough, that will be my 5th game to "master."

Aww, Dylan...
You have to get DOJ, at least at some point. You haven't lived 'til this game has made you it's bitch. Truly life changing...

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:01 am

MadSteelDarkness wrote:
Dylan1CC wrote:
cigsthecat wrote:Well, I'll probably enjoy it for that month. I've already found the 3-4 games I can play endlessly so I'm all set there.

Just seems to be my Cave routine.
I know what you mean. I am trying to limit myself to 4 shmups that I plan on "mastering" in my lifetime: Progear, Garegga, DDP and Radiant. I'll probably never buy DOJ for this reason. I'd like to but I'd never have enough time to truly ace it.

EDIT: Assuming I like Mushi enough, that will be my 5th game to "master."
Aww, Dylan...
You have to get DOJ, at least at some point. You haven't lived 'til this game has made you it's bitch. Truly life changing...

Nah. I seriously am satisfied with Progear, Saturn DDP, Mushihime and if it appears on PS2, Ibara as far as my Cave play goes. The next Cave game I get beyond these titles would be an EspRaDe PCB.

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:09 am

Personally, I'll wait for NCSX to offer a pre-order (mainly because anything shipped from them arrives overnight here using UPS Ground).

However, we do have 3 possible issues with this currently:

1: Another "Ketsui Incident". Something stupid occurs between Cave and Taito that nixes the project (hopefully, this won't be the case).

2: Another "OMFGWG". A badly implemented port can be almost as bad as not getting the game at all (almost). Hopefully, Taito will pull a page from their Psikyo Shooting Collection 3 book and do an admirable job.

3: Another "Ikaruga Fiasco". The release info is leaked to a commercial site and they post a speculative release date. Company denies they are working on port (even though they are). Proposed date of release passes (for DC Ikaruga, it was originally May 30th of 2002). Company acts cryptic for 2-3 months. Game is then finally announced officially by company for release in yet another 2-3 months (even though port is 99% complete).

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:50 am

GaijinPunch wrote:I heard GWG was a turd to begin with.

Nope, it's great and the port is adequate. People should really get over the 30 frames per second and try it out. It's totally playable, as I've been doing for a few days.