Death Smiles: Countdown to North America Invasion

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:11 am

1.) Will this newly announced Cave arcade shmup PCB title, Tenshi No Juusha, be released on new smaller PCB hardware or the standard SH-3 based PCB setup?

2.) And does AMI handle the actual production of the Cave PCBs themselves? (I do recall that Atlus handled production some of the earlier produced Cave PCBs titles such as Donpachi, ESP.ra.de, etc.)..... ^_~

3.) And does not Cave do actual PCB production themselves but through agreement with 3rd-party Japanese arcade PCB manufacturer?

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:33 am

PC Engine Fan X! wrote:1.) Will this newly announced Cave arcade shmup PCB title be released on new smaller PCB hardware or the standard SH-3 based PCB setup?

2.) And does AMI handle the actual production of the Cave PCBs themselves? (I do recall that Atlus handled production some of the earlier produced Cave PCBs titles such as Donpachi, ESP.ra.de, etc.)..... ^_~

3.) And does not Cave do actual PCB production themselves but through agreement with 3rd-party Japanese arcade PCB manufacturer?

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

1)No one knows yet.
2)Yes.
3)Isn't this the same question as #2, but worded differently?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:44 am

Until somewhat recently, Cave has not had a marketing department... at all. Now, it only handles small print runs of CDs, DVDs, toys, etc. In theory, that could even be a third party, working under the Cave umbrella, but the production numbers hint otherwise.

kemical · Post by **kemical** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:21 am

how did I miss this thread??
This teaser has caught my attention...

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:37 am

Well, I nabbed this from Danmakugata.

According to Mihara, a post on Mixi (which you can't view w/o an account) says that Cave's upcoming game has the working title Death Lolita, and that they are looking at hiring some people for Cosplay.

MathU · Post by **MathU** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:44 am

JoshF said

Is Cave really reduced to that kind of pandering to survive as a company? I'm open to artistic freedom but you can only take so many teenage girls in your shooting games.

I couldn't agree more.

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:31 pm

Too bad it won't get a console port, thanks to Cave being douchebags nowadays.

Post by **undamned** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:41 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:...Death Lolita, and that they are looking at hiring some people for Cosplay.

Like they will have a hard time finding loligoths in Japan.
-ud

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:33 pm

undamned wrote: Like they will have a hard time finding loligoths in Japan.
-ud

Yeah, I can walk a mile from my house and point them to 100 or so.

Zeether · Post by **Zeether** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:05 am

Damn...this won't get ported...

Fucking Cave.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:51 pm

Not sure if anyone saw this particular nugget on IC, but apparently the rumor is that the game is going to be sort of a horizontal take on Guwange (with options)...who was it from Cave who, in some interview or other, said that they sort of figured that their "style" didn't work as well in a hori after they finished with Progear?

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:58 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:, and that they are looking at hiring some people for Cosplay.

...hmm im spotting a new career move here

Geezer · Post by **Geezer** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:02 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:horizontal

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:19 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:who was it from Cave who, in some interview or other, said that they sort of figured that their "style" didn't work as well in a hori after they finished with Progear?

Yes, Ikeda said the style of Progear (maniac hori) didn't work well and they wouldn't try that again. But a hori Guwange style game is not the same as a Progear style game.

Still a pretty odd design choice, if it is true. Also makes you wonder if they're using new hardware for this one. I'd like to think that if it is a hori, the odds of a port would be greater. But perhaps that's just wishful thinking.

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:05 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:Not sure if anyone saw this particular nugget on IC, but apparently the rumor is that the game is going to be sort of a horizontal take on Guwange (with options)...who was it from Cave who, in some interview or other, said that they sort of figured that their "style" didn't work as well in a hori after they finished with Progear?

It was in that French shmups documentary, can't remember who said it, Mihara or one of the other bigwigs. I'd be seriously surprised if Death Lolita will be a true hori. Much more likely to to be a Guwange style 'up-down-left-scroller-but-always-shooting-up-so-basically-vert-with-nobs-on" shooter, imo.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:07 pm

It was Ikeda who said it. And by the way, Mihara doesn't work for Cave, he works for Arika.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:43 pm

They said the Progear project was a learning project on all fronts (CPS2 hardware, and horizontal gameplay). It wasn't just with that though. Ikeda has said on many occasions that horizontal & vertical are like night & day. He's never seemed to warm up to horizontal gameplay though, so I'm wondering what the fuck has possessed him in this case.

This nugget was apparently taken from the Mixi blog that nobody could read as it required a Mixi account (something I've since gotten, but hadn't read yet).

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:47 pm

I think he just hasn't worked with ikeda in a while and has some spare time from his monthly manga and whatever design work he's doing for people

zakk · Post by **zakk** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:22 am

A walking like guwange yet hori-vert (RS/Gigawing) orientation might not work out so bad. Maybe that's what it is.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:35 am

Twiddle wrote:I think he just hasn't worked with ikeda in a while and has some spare time from his monthly manga and whatever design work he's doing for people

He always said he'd return to the game world when his manga was over. I assume it is, but haven't been keeping up.

Circa2113 · Post by **Circa2113** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:48 am

I'd cream my pants if we ended up with a psuedo guwange sequel.

LET IT BE!

Damocles · Post by **Damocles** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:59 pm

I like where this theme is going. Death, demons, and the undead as enemies, please.

Post by **system11** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:41 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:
undamned wrote: Like they will have a hard time finding loligoths in Japan.
-ud
Yeah, I can walk a mile from my house and point them to 100 or so.

Could you please go into the export business?

Post by **Shatterhand** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:49 pm

If the game is really called "Death Lolita", then I will want a port badly...

... it would be awesome when my friends look at my games collection, frown at games titled "Mushihime-Sama" "Radirgy Precious" "Espgaluda 2".. and suddenly they open a huge smile.. "DEATH LOLITA" ....

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:50 pm

bloodflowers wrote:
GaijinPunch wrote:
undamned wrote: Like they will have a hard time finding loligoths in Japan.
-ud
Yeah, I can walk a mile from my house and point them to 100 or so.
Could you please go into the export business?

..you want to buy gothic lingerie

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:09 pm

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/jpop/essential ... tml?id=EGL

The Loli heart Of Fire

Post by **system11** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:14 pm

sven666 wrote:
bloodflowers wrote:
GaijinPunch wrote: Yeah, I can walk a mile from my house and point them to 100 or so.
Could you please go into the export business?
..you want to buy gothic lingerie

Well I was rather hoping to get the present as well as the wrapping.

Post by **Icarus** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:44 am

bloodflowers wrote:Well I was rather hoping to get the present as well as the wrapping.

You never struck me as being a gothloli fan, bloodf.
Then again, you had Suigintou (or a character that looks like her) as your desktop a while back, so I guess it makes sense.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:01 am

Their not all that hot/cute. There are way hornier looking girls dressing more normal, albeit sluttier around town.

Post by **system11** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:47 am

Icarus wrote:
bloodflowers wrote:Well I was rather hoping to get the present as well as the wrapping.
You never struck me as being a gothloli fan, bloodf.
Then again, you had Suigintou (or a character that looks like her) as your desktop a while back, so I guess it makes sense.

You know, I ran the goth club where I live for a few years, and did one of the regular DJ slots. Do the maths, this makes gothlolis about the hottest possible thing in the world.

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