wikimup.com

Button Hand · Post by **Button Hand** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:40 am

Has anyone else visited this site? I discovered it the other day, and started to write a bit, but then I realized that nobody else has done anything there for over a month. The articles that are actually somewhat written are pretty good, but there are very few of them. I wonder why it got totally abandoned? It's like an empty shell of a wiki just waiting for someone to take over.

Post by **Icarus** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:52 am

I don't trust wikis. Not only are entries on some wikis factually incorrect, but the ability to edit anything, even if you aren't the original author, puts me off. I don't like the idea of putting something as detailed as a Garegga ST up on there, only to find some fucktard dumbass has gone and done a bit of ninja editing.

That's just my opinion, though. Other people might jump at the chance of a shootemup wiki.

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:48 am

I would never contribute to a wiki. I don't want my shit changed and then misquoted. Wikipedia is awesome however.

szycag · Post by **szycag** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:48 am

wikis are so 2006
I'm not gonna contribute to something with no real backbone, if I saw the people running it were putting hard work into it then maybe, but it looks like a ghost town

Mortificator · Post by **Mortificator** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:36 am

I think well-maintained wikis like Wikipedia (or Wookiepedia

) are a great way to archive knowledge. There's more transparency than traditional encyclopedias or web sites since you can always check all the revisions ever made to each article and who made them, and any decent article cites sources to check up on. Vandalism can always be reverted, and the fact that Wikipedia's grown to the size it has shows more people are interested in building articles than tearing them down.

That said, I don't think many of these alternative wikis bring anything new to the table. Unless you're going to do in-depth strategy you can just as easily work on any shooter's article on Wikipedia itself, and many more people will see it there too.

zakk · Post by **zakk** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:53 am

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 318#246318

Button Hand · Post by **Button Hand** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:48 pm

Mortificator wrote:Unless you're going to do in-depth strategy you can just as easily work on any shooter's article on Wikipedia itself, and many more people will see it there too.

Good point. I just wanted to know if anyone had heard of this place, and knew why it was so desolate. Thanks for the info, zakk. Some of these other wikis can work, but only if there is a group of people dedicated to making it far more detailed and comprehensive than anything relating to the subject on Wikipedia. See hrwiki.org for example.

But with video games, for whatever reason, reviews and faqs written by one person still seem to do a better job. I don't think I've ever seen a game-related wiki that had a better collection of information than you could find elsewhere.

Post by **Dave_K.** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:14 pm

Icarus wrote:I don't trust wikis. Not only are entries on some wikis factually incorrect, but the ability to edit anything, even if you aren't the original author, puts me off. I don't like the idea of putting something as detailed as a Garegga ST up on there, only to find some fucktard dumbass has gone and done a bit of ninja editing.

That's just my opinion, though. Other people might jump at the chance of a shootemup wiki.

Umm, I wouldn't trust anything I read on the internet as factual, much less content found in Wikis. So whats your point?

Wikis do add value, but only if there is a large enough community determined to manage it, and thwart spammers, fucktards, and griefers alike. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening with our relatively small community.

Now I'll tell you what I don't like, and that is trying to read up on shmup strategy via forum posts. Yuck! If only there was some middle ground between tight content/editing control and open formating/linking found in wikis.

Post by **Icarus** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:35 pm

Dave_K. wrote:Umm, I wouldn't trust anything I read on the internet as factual, much less content found in Wikis. So whats your point?

No point. Just ranting.

Dave_K. wrote:Wikis do add value, but only if there is a large enough community determined to manage it, and thwart spammers, fucktards, and griefers alike. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening with our relatively small community.

"If it's on Wikipedia, it must be true, right? </sarcasm>"
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Personally, I don't trust anything where the original author does not have full control over the editing and formatting of the content. Wikis included. As you've said, it'd work if there is a large community actively working to ensure the content is properly managed, but there isn't a large enough core community here at the forum who would want to contribute to such a project.

There's more chance of a blind guy with one arm 2-ALLing Dodonpachi Daioujou than the majority of shmupsforum ever wanting to participate in something like that.

Dave_K. wrote:Now I'll tell you what I don't like, and that is trying to read up on shmup strategy via forum posts. Yuck! If only there was some middle ground between tight content/editing control and open formating/linking found in wikis.

Websites.

I quite like the forum thread guides, as people can still discuss while the opening post (or posts) are reserved for the master content. If there were some way of setting up the Strategy Forum to use the format [master post(s)] -> [small, collapsible thread comments] or something then it'd be nicer - keeping the focus on the guide while allowing readers to optionally view the discussion.

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:53 pm

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2005/20051216h.jpg

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:17 am

Turrican wrote:http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2005/20051216h.jpg

Can Hibachi even use a keyboard?