New to Modern Shooters/ Under Defeat

[slap_fight]

ok, i've played gradius v as well but to me that's still an old franchise.

anyway, i thought i'd give some of these newer shooters a go recently and to my surprise, i really like under defeat.

i haven't been impressed by many games of recent years, so i was pleasantly surprised when i got to level 1-5, the graveyard level, which starts with this really moody soundtrack and a good 10-15 seconds after the soundfx fades up. wow, it was a simple yet effective little feature. i'm not sure if this effect has been used in any other game, but fancy that, of all the multi-million pound epic games out there that doesn't impress me at all, along comes a shoot 'em up of all things made me sit up.

from what i've seen. cave games aren't for me unfortunately. i don't know where i'm going with this thread but i thought i'd share my thoughts anyway.

[Asherdude]

Welcome to the club! If you've got access to a cube or a DC, you ought to give Ikaruga a go around.

[Sonic R]

May I suggest Border Down - the other fine work of game from our friends G.rev - the same folks who bring us Under Defeat. It is fun challenge game and has nice classic feel.

I am fond of games of the olden days. I think I am becoming grumpy, grouchy old man . I am suck so bad I cannot play new shooting games well though I try Lord knows I am try to play but I suck so bad its not funny. I am play classic games far better and am revisiting them today and playing them better than I do at youth.

I don't know where I go with this post but enjoy your games
Under Defeat is one of my favorites and in my top 25 - only G.rev games were new games in my top 25 the rest were old console games.

[CMoon]

Under Defeat is about as old school as new school shmups come.

May I suggest Dodonpachi Dai Ou Jou

(yeah, and border down is great too. Might as well pick up the taito 2 legends pack to grab up G Darius while you're at it.)

[Kemko]

i haven't been impressed by many games of recent years, so i was pleasantly surprised when i got to level 1-5, the graveyard level, which starts with this really moody soundtrack and a good 10-15 seconds after the soundfx fades up. wow, it was a simple yet effective little feature. i'm not sure if this effect has been used in any other game, but fancy that, of all the multi-million pound epic games out there that doesn't impress me at all, along comes a shoot 'em up of all things made me sit up.

The effect was used in Darius II. Maybe it's G.Rev's homage to TAITO shooters?

[Grant Windsor]

Maybe it's G.Rev's homage to TAITO shooters?

Since G.Rev was formed by ex-Taito staff, you never know.

Since Cave games were mentioned specifically, I would imagine that most "bullet hell" shmups would be out (otherwise, I would recommend the DC port of GigaWing 2...I generally don't like Takumi games, but I do like this one).

I might recommend the following, though:

Psyvarier 2 (DC, PS2, Xbox)
Raiden III (PS2)
Shikigami no Shiro II (DC, PS2, GC, Xbox)

A lot of people bag on Raiden III for this and that...but I think it's a fun game, especially with two players.

- Grant

[Necronom]

Yeah, Raiden III is seriously underestimated. Very satisfying game if you can get into the groove of it...
Btw, there's a really charming review of it on Eurogamer.net that might arouse your interest. Both the PS2 and PC versions are very good.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=77224

[Ceph]

Yeah, Raiden III is seriously underestimated. Very satisfying game if you can get into the groove of it...
Btw, there's a really charming review of it on Eurogamer.net that might arouse your interest. Both the PS2 and PC versions are very good.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=77224

If only your ship wasn't as sluggish in Raiden III... That and the absence of the beloved toothpaste laser make it a ho-hum sequel. Raiden DX is still the best.

[Asherdude]

I keep forgetting about Raiden III. I suppose it's a mental block. I just traded in my PS2 and it makes me sad when I think about it.

Yeah, I can hear everyones gasps of surprise and a few chuckles of laughter out there. I need to get on the ball and order that Japanese PS2 as originally planned.