5th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time! - Discussion thread

Herr Schatten · Post by **Herr Schatten** » Wed May 02, 2007 8:08 am

I don't think Ibara, Arrange and Black Label should count as one game. Maybe Arrange and BL can be lumped together (I'm not sure since I haven't played BL), but at least Ibara and Ibara Arrange have different enough core features to count as seperate games, I think.

j^aws · Post by **j^aws** » Wed May 02, 2007 9:53 am

Quick question: Is Life Force Salamander (AC/ SAT/ PS1), grouped with Salamander (AC)? Thx...

Zach Keene · Post by **Zach Keene** » Wed May 02, 2007 1:32 pm

Historically no, but I'm willing to reconsider (the only major difference between the two is the power-up system.)

Actually you were one of the ones I needed to PM as I wasn't entirely sure if you were voting for Lifeforce or Salamander there.

Herr Schatten wrote:I don't think Ibara, Arrange and Black Label should count as one game. Maybe Arrange and BL can be lumped together (I'm not sure since I haven't played BL), but at least Ibara and Ibara Arrange have different enough core features to count as seperate games, I think.

Fair enough. I'm not at all familiar with Cave's more recent titles and variations thereof.

cigsthecat · Post by **cigsthecat** » Wed May 02, 2007 4:00 pm

Uh yeah, my vote was for Ibara arcade. The other versions are trash.

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Wed May 02, 2007 6:44 pm

Herr Schatten wrote:I don't think Ibara, Arrange and Black Label should count as one game. Maybe Arrange and BL can be lumped together (I'm not sure since I haven't played BL), but at least Ibara and Ibara Arrange have different enough core features to count as seperate games, I think.

Same for Steel Empire and Steel Empire GBA:

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 938#197938

There's enough stuff to call it an adjusted conversion, rather than a straight port.

j^aws · Post by **j^aws** » Wed May 02, 2007 10:15 pm

Zach Keene wrote:Historically no, but I'm willing to reconsider (the only major difference between the two is the power-up system.)

Actually you were one of the ones I needed to PM as I wasn't entirely sure if you were voting for Lifeforce or Salamander there.
...

Ah, okay... I'd be happy with that.

Just to clarify if it wasn't already: I was voting for Lifeforce (AC: JPN), ported to the "Salamander Deluxe Pack Plus" (SAT), with that 'Gradius' style power-up system and the more 'bio' graphics theme... And definitely *not* Lifeforce (AC: US) nor Salamander (AC); which I guess would still be grouped together because they lack that "power-up" system... Phew!

*slaps Konami with Salamanders*

jeremycarrier · Post by **jeremycarrier** » Mon May 07, 2007 11:22 pm

So I guess we've all seen the new results huh?

Sad that Guwange fell off, but DDP is still number one for what...5 straight years now?

Where the hell did Batrider come from?

Post by **Shatterhand** » Tue May 22, 2007 1:03 pm

Yes, it's getting ridiulous, I'll start a campaign against Dodonpachi next year.

Oh, and welcome back myself, I've been out the forum for like 7 months now, even missed the annual top 25 shmups voting for the first time in my life! Because of this, Compile shmups obviously lost positions and Hype isn't in the full list anymore

Sonic R · Post by **Sonic R** » Tue May 22, 2007 1:28 pm

Shatterhand wrote:Yes, it's getting ridiulous, I'll start a campaign against Dodonpachi next year.

Oh, and welcome back myself, I've been out the forum for like 7 months now, even missed the annual top 25 shmups voting for the first time in my life! Because of this, Compile shmups obviously lost positions and Hype isn't in the full list anymore

Welcome back Shatterhand!
Us Compile supporters are miss you very much!

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Tue May 22, 2007 2:53 pm

Shatterhand wrote:Yes, it's getting ridiulous, I'll start a campaign against Dodonpachi next year.

Oh, and welcome back myself, I've been out the forum for like 7 months now, even missed the annual top 25 shmups voting for the first time in my life! Because of this, Compile shmups obviously lost positions and Hype isn't in the full list anymore

Hey, glad to see you are still alive! I was beginning to think that something bad had happened to you...

Herr Schatten · Post by **Herr Schatten** » Tue May 22, 2007 2:56 pm

Shatterhand wrote:Yes, it's getting ridiulous, I'll start a campaign against Dodonpachi next year.

And leave the top spot to Treasure? You must be kidding.

Shatterhand wrote:Oh, and welcome back myself, I've been out the forum for like 7 months now, even missed the annual top 25 shmups voting for the first time in my life! Because of this, Compile shmups obviously lost positions and Hype isn't in the full list anymore

Also, your yearly vote for Apidya has been missed.

Welcome back. We already feared you got lost or something.