Jets n Guns - free today

kong · Post by **kong** » Thu May 17, 2007 2:48 pm

Game giveaway of the day is offering Jets n Guns for free today.
http://game.giveawayoftheday.com/jetsnguns/

I know it's more of a euro shmup but some people might like it.

Nuke · Post by **Nuke** » Thu May 17, 2007 2:50 pm

How nice of them.

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Thu May 17, 2007 3:08 pm

nice.
Interesting, i can upgrade it to GOLD version fro 9$?

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Thu May 17, 2007 10:51 pm

A euro shmup is fine too.

bVork · Post by **bVork** » Fri May 18, 2007 2:09 am

This game is really growing on me. Yes, it is definitely a euroshmup - it has between-level saving, an item store, and a lifebar - but it's still good on its own merits. Reminds me a lot of Disposable Hero, actually.

Even if you don't like the game, the soundtrack is badass.

Ozymandiaz1260 · Post by **Ozymandiaz1260** » Fri May 18, 2007 3:15 am

bVork wrote: Even if you don't like the game, the soundtrack is badass.

Yeah, Machinae Supremacy is awesome.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Fri May 18, 2007 3:17 am

Why does the phrase "Euro-Shmup" keep being stated like it's a trait that has to be overcome?

Damocles · Post by **Damocles** » Fri May 18, 2007 3:20 am

The Coop wrote:Why does the phrase "Euro-Shmup" keep being stated like it's a trait that has to be overcome?

Because if they're not done properly they come off as sloppy. Cheap enemies and poor levels can be more readily forgiven than sloppyness.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Fri May 18, 2007 3:21 am

Damocles wrote:
The Coop wrote:Why does the phrase "Euro-Shmup" keep being stated like it's a trait that has to be overcome?
Because if they're not done properly they come off as sloppy. Cheap enemies and poor levels can be more readily forgiven than sloppyness.

And this differs from a "Japano-Shmup" how?

Damocles · Post by **Damocles** » Fri May 18, 2007 3:28 am

The Coop wrote:
Damocles wrote:
The Coop wrote:Why does the phrase "Euro-Shmup" keep being stated like it's a trait that has to be overcome?
Because if they're not done properly they come off as sloppy. Cheap enemies and poor levels can be more readily forgiven than sloppyness.
And this differs from a "Japano-Shmup" how?

Style. The tendency to use lifebars. Multiple hits before going down. Common ideas in so-called Euro-shmups that generally aren't well recieved. Shmups with anything other than one-hit-kills tend to throw unavoidable patterns at you that force you to minimize damage rather than avoid it. I'm sure you can think of a few examples off the top of your head. That said, this isn't always the case.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Fri May 18, 2007 3:47 am

Damocles wrote:
The Coop wrote:
Damocles wrote: Because if they're not done properly they come off as sloppy. Cheap enemies and poor levels can be more readily forgiven than sloppyness.
And this differs from a "Japano-Shmup" how?
Style. The tendency to use lifebars. Multiple hits before going down. Common ideas in so-called Euro-shmups that generally aren't well recieved. Shmups with anything other than one-hit-kills tend to throw unavoidable patterns at you that force you to minimize damage rather than avoid it. I'm sure you can think of a few examples off the top of your head. That said, this isn't always the case.

Well, I can just as easily name plenty of Japanese shmups with questionable style, collision detection, and seemingly just as unavoidable enemy and bullet patterns. For every one Euro-Shmup with issues, there's at least one Japanese shmup with issues (likely more since Japanese shmups far out number European ones). But as I'm sure others would back me up on, those bad Japanese shmups aren't held over the "heads" of the good Japanese shmups. Most people don't liken Gradius Gaiden to XDR just because they might share a similar style or trait. So why do such a thing with Euro-Shmups?

Damocles · Post by **Damocles** » Fri May 18, 2007 4:22 am

The Coop wrote:Well, I can just as easily name plenty of Japanese shmups with questionable style, collision detection, and seemingly just as unavoidable enemy and bullet patterns. For every one Euro-Shmup with issues, there's at least one Japanese shmup with issues (likely more since Japanese shmups far out number European ones). But as I'm sure others would back me up on, those bad Japanese shmups aren't held over the "heads" of the good Japanese shmups. Most people don't liken Gradius Gaiden to XDR just because they might share a similar style or trait. So why do such a thing with Euro-Shmups?

Maybe because the "bad" Euro-Shmups outweigh the "good" ones? I don't know if that's the case, but it's an idea. Since I don't personally like the stereotypical Euro styling, probably because I'm not a huge fan of most horzies, I can't say.

Personally, I can't stand most Western-developed shmups. Many seem clunky, and most put visuals first and gameplay last. Hell, look at Jets 'n Guns. I think it's great to look at, though it has the computer lifelessness look to it, but I think it's a sub-par game. Just my opinion.

Gungriffon Geona · Post by **Gungriffon Geona** » Fri May 18, 2007 4:41 am

I gotta say, I really love this game so far. normally I utterly detest pre-rendered graphics, but this game does it WELL. besides that, it takes me back to Stargunner and Raptor, both which I absolutely adored. (as for issues with the style and easiness, Raptor's hardest difficulty drove me insane because it was literally throwing everything at you by the third level. that goes for especially for it's other 3 episodes.) I actually may get gold version later if I have the time to.

Pixel_Outlaw · Post by **Pixel_Outlaw** » Fri May 18, 2007 6:12 am

It's nice that he/she/they are offering it as a free game. I'm not going to claim that the game is bad since it's basically charity. I just wish the enemies didn't get fully across the screen with constant fire before blowing up. Many times I had to literally fire on an object until it blew up pixels away from ramming my plane to death. Also some parts almost demand you take damage. I personally didn't care for this concept. Also it seems that they tried to build on the shmup genre and just ended up adding more complications. It's a great looking game and it's nice for people to give it away if only for a day. I can see that a lot of time and effort went into this work but some parts are still a bit unbalanced in my opinion.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Fri May 18, 2007 7:07 am

You have tried powering up your weapons with the money you earn, right? That makes a world of difference. Click on one of the weapons that's attached to your ship at the "shop" screen, and a menu will pop up in the upper right. The "+" adds a power up, the "-" takes it away.

NeoZeed_RP · Post by **NeoZeed_RP** » Fri May 18, 2007 8:02 am

Balls!!!! I missed it! Its $29.99 now

.I should really pay attention

ForteMP3 · Post by **ForteMP3** » Fri May 18, 2007 8:10 am

Also missed it today, damn.

mainpatr1 · Post by **mainpatr1** » Fri May 18, 2007 8:22 am

What's with all of the swearing in this game?

It really reminds me of Download for PC-Engine.

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Fri May 18, 2007 8:46 am

mainpatr1 wrote:What's with all of the swearing in this game?

It really reminds me of Download for PC-Engine.

Tons of blood, heavy music and destruction.
Its best euroshmup for years. Not for score or 1cc, but for FUN.

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Fri May 18, 2007 12:40 pm

NeoZeed_RP wrote:Balls!!!! I missed it! Its $29.99 now .I should really pay attention

Me too. What´s up with this "free but only for a day" crap? That´s so... so... MEAN!

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Fri May 18, 2007 12:53 pm

Downloaded and installed it in time; I'll have a look later. Thanks for the tip! Sucks that you can only install it for one day, though. In case the installed game somehow gets corrupted you can't reinstall it later...

Gungriffon Geona · Post by **Gungriffon Geona** » Sat May 19, 2007 5:40 pm

could someone tell me how to go about switching the atarix correct color from green to something else? I seriously can't tell the difference between the yellow and green they chose to use, and so I have to adjust my moniter in some asinine way to just see the difference.

Klatrymadon · Post by **Klatrymadon** » Sat May 19, 2007 6:52 pm

If anyone who managed to get it wants to send it to me, I can stick it on my FTP for you chaps. Unlimited space and permanent hosting and all that jazz.

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Sat May 19, 2007 7:12 pm

The installer required online activation during installation, which only worked while they were giving it away (for one day). So the installer alone is no good.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Sat May 19, 2007 7:43 pm

However, the installed product... if it were to say, be zipped...

Post by **Dave_K.** » Sat May 19, 2007 8:18 pm

Crap, I downloaded it on that day to save, but never tried installing it. Looked at the zip file right now and its a 39M corrupted file!? wtf?

Post by **Ghegs** » Sat May 19, 2007 8:34 pm

Dave_K. wrote:Crap, I downloaded it on that day to save, but never tried installing it. Looked at the zip file right now and its a 39M corrupted file!? wtf?

The file was over 70M, so your download was cut off for whatever reason.

For the people who weren't in time for the offer: rest assured you aren't missing out on anything aside from cool music.

MrMonkeyMan · Post by **MrMonkeyMan** » Sat May 19, 2007 8:46 pm

Yeah, seriously, if you missed out on the game just go download the soundtrack. Hey, it's free.

http://www.machinaesupremacy.com/

http://www.machinaesupremacy.com/webography.html#JNG

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Sat May 19, 2007 8:50 pm

Ghegs wrote:
Dave_K. wrote:Crap, I downloaded it on that day to save, but never tried installing it. Looked at the zip file right now and its a 39M corrupted file!? wtf?
The file was over 70M, so your download was cut off for whatever reason.

For the people who weren't in time for the offer: rest assured you aren't missing out on anything aside from cool music.

Some of us would say the opposite... that they did miss out on getting a good game.

Shocky · Post by **Shocky** » Mon May 21, 2007 12:55 pm

The Coop wrote:
Some of us would say the opposite... that they did miss out on getting a good game.

Yeah, J'n'G may not appeal to shmup purists but it has tons of small gimmicks to keep the player occupied. The chaotic designs (especially the weapon combinations) of euro-shmups sometimes produce a varied gameplay unlike most of the j-shmups that are very dogmatic and even-quality.