From a stray comment lifted from an older thread...
TWITCHDOCTOR wrote:there is an alternative...don't tate your TV, tate your brain!
Seriously, lay on your side! It works, and you will be able to play it properly. Just don't get up fast when your done...you're equilibrium will be shot for a few seconds
As an increasing number of people lately are installing HDTVs into their gaming setups, more of us are going to at least consider this idea. It would probably necessitate using a joypad rather than a joystick.
One of the senior editors at Gamespot was playing Raiden III in Tate mode, sideways on a couch on 04/12 On The Spot.
Anyone actually vouch for this method? Sounds like it might be more of a headache (literally) than its worth, but slightly tempting for a nicer screen.
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I agree with DJI. Sound is also really weird, unless you're wearing headphones. Something about it simply feels really lopsided; I'm not sure if I'd prefer "personal rotation" to yoko in most cases.
(I tried the self-rotate before finally taking the plunge and rotating my television, and the self-rotate didn't give me an accurate impression at all, it seemed. I'm glad that I went for it anyway!)
One of my friends has a TV that they would never rotate, though, so maybe I'll bring something over sometime to try it. I suppose that I thought that with the larger HDTVs, yoko mode would work decently since the visual size is bigger than most rotated SDTVs. It'd indeed be two different kinds of scaling going on, though (the console rotating and scaling the image to yoko, then the TV scaling the console resolution to match its native resolution).
What a useless thread. What are you asking? Are you in an environment where there is no way to lay down? I'm sure some kind of Japanese superplayer could 1cc any shmup in this position.
Are you asking us if you should buy a couch for this purpose?
Just try it, it will suck, but when you're kinda tired you could try this for a few laughs though. Or are you asking if you should buy a pad so you can lay on yer side?
I have done the "ghetto tate" at a friends house before. Not the best way to play shooties though I did realize some good scores for the games I was playing (Battle Garegga & Batsugun). I think I hit one of my high scores that night
(maybe I should have a few drinks more often when I play?)
It makes me literally sick. Plus the fact most shmups look awful on LCD's puts me right off.
I bought a shitty CRT a while back and just plop that on its side. Looks quite nice through SCART and if it breaks, I'll just get a new one for tenner from the thrift shop.
I always play verts in ghetto tate. So much easier than trying to turn my TV set back and forth. At first my shoulder would easily get sore, but I'm used to it now and don't have any problems with it.
You can also TATE your 'controller' and play it hori-stylee!... And with some verts, you don't even need to do this!... Of course, true-TATE is preferable...
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I ALWAYS do this with my regular TV. Pose pillows between your legs and arms and you'll feel like sitting in front of a tate-screen.... well close to it >_>.
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sadly widescreen TV will be another nail in the coffin for shooters, all modern console games have requirements for fullscreen wide HD, and having just a thin sliver of your screen dedicated to authentic vertical gameplay isn't gonna fly with MS or sony.
stuminator wrote:I always play verts in ghetto tate. So much easier than trying to turn my TV set back and forth. At first my shoulder would easily get sore, but I'm used to it now and don't have any problems with it.
aventus wrote:I ALWAYS do this with my regular TV. Pose pillows between your legs and arms and you'll feel like sitting in front of a tate-screen.... well close to it
shinsage wrote:I've been sideways tate'ing that way for years.
I've never flipped my TV to play it proper
Sounds like it has some potential, if at least a few people have used this method OK.
Pixel_Outlaw wrote:Forget fancy controllers, you would be buying fancy pillows instead.
I google searched "seimitsu pillows" but didn't find anything...
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Can anyone recommend a straight up amazing tv that can handle component and look beautiful with a supergun? I have a sony pvm that looks great, but it takes up too much real estate in my room.
Lying on your side (not that I've tried it for long periods) doesn't work properly, because your brain still knows the right side of the screen isn't UP in the real sense.
See, it's all scientific and stuff (I read it a long time ago), but turning your head on its side doesn't fool your brain at all into thinking the world is sideways because the semicircular canals in your ears are constantly telling it to right itself. Hence, your eyes are not as relaxed scanning the screen on your side, and "up" on the screen is still not up in your brain, so your control of your ship through button presses on the pad will also suffer.
ccovell wrote:Lying on your side (not that I've tried it for long periods) doesn't work properly, because your brain still knows the right side of the screen isn't UP in the real sense.
I remember reading something like that as well, now that you mention it. (Perhaps it was in an older thread similar to this one?)
Then, I got to imagining playing a shmup in tate with the screen rotated in the opposite direction, meaning that one would have to hang upside-down to play. That would probably make me somewhat ill.
j^aws wrote:
shinsage wrote:It certainly takes a while to adjust to.
Yes, yes it does.
If I had been eating something when I read this, it would have been all over my screen.
Thunder Force wrote:I google searched "seimitsu pillows" but didn't find anything...
Perhaps it works for me because my bed is exactly parallel to my TV in my shitty box apartment, but i've been playing espgaluda like this all week and it works a treat.
Kron wrote:They look even worse when people stretch them into widescreen as well (see above).
That is why I am not shop for a wide screen television. Imagine letterbox tate with black bar on top and bottom of tate screen. Many of my friends are not understanding why I shop for 4:3 TV. I play games. I am play classic old fashon game. I am not watching television shows (I am fan of NBA basketball that is all).
Sound is also really weird, unless you're wearing headphones. Something about it simply feels really lopsided; I'm not sure if I'd prefer "personal rotation" to yoko in most cases.
