Vasara and Vasara 2

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:25 am

Seeing as I've never started a HS topic before, I figured I'd try my hand at putting the call out to everyone to try these two nifty and rather obscure shmups...I've got 5 slots for the scores now, but if more people than that submit then I'll gladly extend the list.

Everything at defaults, one credit, you know the drill. I've kept separate table for the "Easy" and "Hard" modes in Vasara 2; also, the hidden character in that game (Magoichi) is allowed, the code to get him is below. I've also included the characters' names for your convenience, in case (like me) you have trouble remembering those long names, hopefully I spelled 'em right. Please submit scores in this manner:

Name - Score - Stage Reached - Prestige Kills - Character

As you can see, my scores are extremely dishonorable...slash 'em down!

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Vasara

01. clp - 1,174,130- ALL - 171 - Saiga
02. Vludi - 1,207,550- All - 146 - Saiga
03. BBH - 1,129,860 - ALL - 165 - Sanada
04. Vorpal - 1,086,830 - ALL - 179 - Sanada
05. Javel - 1,063,610 - 6 - 146 - Saiga
06. Tar-Palantir - 1,045,950 - 6 - 172 - Saiga
07. Gemant - 1.041.280 - 6 - 141 - Saiga
08. Eleriaqueen - 978,390 - 6 - 169 - Saiga
09. chum - 823,580 - 5 - 130 - Saiga
10. Dumple - 809,700 - ALL - 156 - Sanada
11. BLOODY - 784,440 - 5 - 142 - Saiga
12. Third_strike - 765,890 - 5 - 122 - Saiga
13. freddiebamboo - 714,170 - 5 - 115 - Saiga
14. Ruldra - 673,310 - 5? - 115 - Saiga
15. DeSangre - 657,680 - 5 - 112 - Maeda
16. crithit5000 - 600,600 - 4 - 102 - Saiga
17. blotto - 600,400 - 4 - 105 - Saiga
18. BulletMagnet - 585,520 - 5 - 131 - Maeda
19. RFP - 577,550 - 4 - 89 - Saiga
20. kozo - 567,930 - ST.4 - 96 - Saiga
21. RGC - 537,630 - 4 - 103 - Sanada
22. Segasonicfan - 492,290 - ? - ??? - Sanada
23. pugeta - 488,620 - 4 - 90 - Sanada
24. Momijitsuki - 477,560 - 4 - 73 - Saiga
25. LGB - 460.740 - 3 - 67 - Saiga
26. dannnnn - 457,030 - 4 - 86 - Saiga
27. Snake - 441,070 - 4 - 109 - Maeda
28. EAH (skull) - 401,990 - 3 - 59 - Saiga
29. Brian - 363,880 - 4 - 90 - Maeda
30. Tuoma - 355,410 - 3 - 58 - Saiga
31. worstplayer - 349,230 - 3 - 71 - Sanada
32. dos - 329,880 - 3 - 65 - Maeda
33.Sobek - 326,990 - 3 - 84 - Maeda
34. ZAC - 305,550 - 4 - 82 - Sanada
35. Pirate1019 - 297,220 - 3 - 60 - Saiga
36. califoreigner - 282,740 - 3 - 84 - Sanada
37. flux - 243,910 - 3 - 85 - Sanada
38. Capt. Takehiko - 180,720 - 2 - 57 – Maeda
39. janrodricks - 178,690 - 2 - 55 - Sanada

Sword Guy = Yukimura Sanada
Spear Guy = Keiji Maeda (Shima Sakon?)
Fan Gal = Saiga Magoichi

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Vasara 2

Hard (12 Stages) Mode

1. BOS - 7,169,480 - 7 - 138 - Sandayu
2. KAZ - 6,535,930 - 7 - 159 - Sandayu
3. clp - 6,526,490 - 6 - 133 - Sandayu
4. Tar-Palantir - 6,124,610 - 5 - 112 - Sandayu
5. crithit5000 - 3,053,950 - 3 - 71 - Sandayu
6. BulletMagnet - 1,811,150 - 3 - 56 - Mitsuhide
7. Sobek - 1,402,200 - 3 - 67 - Seiryubo
8. SFKhoa - 1,388,670 - 4 - 68 - Seiryubo

Easy (6 Stages) Mode

1. clp - 8,274,160 - ALL - 143 - Sandayu
2. BBH - 8,141,400 - 6 - 138 - Sandayu
3. Dumple - 6,713,150 - ALL - 134 - Sandayu
4. Tar-Palantir - 6,325,290 - 6 - 128 - Sandayu
5. Ratikal - 5,293,730 - 5 - 103 - Sandayu
6. Aliquant - 4,869,030 - 4 - 97 - Sandayu
7. Javel - 4,094,880 - 4 - 85 - Sandayu
8. zakk - 3,979,750 - 3 - 72 - Sandayu
9. crithit5000 - 3,952,940 - 4 - 89 - Sandayu
10. Capt. Takehiko - 3,291,250 - 4 - 60 - Magoichi
11. BulletMagnet - 3,277,490 - 4 - 98 - Mitsuhide

Sword Guy = Takeda Nobukatsu
Spear Guy = Seiryubo
Helmet Guy = Akechi Mitsuhide
Shuriken Gal = Momochi Sandayu
Fan Guy = Saika Magoichi

To unlock Magoichi, insert a coin, press Up 3 times, Down 3 times, Up 7 times, and Start: he'll appear in the center of the character select screen.

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Have fun!

PlasmaBlooD · Post by **PlasmaBlooD** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:54 am

I have the PCB of Vasara

BLOODY-597,800-4-?-Saika

crithit5000 · Post by **crithit5000** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:57 am

I love Vasara 1. Can't quite recall what stage I made it to, though...I need to work on this one some more and get a Vasara 2 high score to enter...

crithit5000 - 331,390 - ? - 73 - Maeda

Edit:Scratch that score, got a better one-

crithit5000 - 383,030 - 4 - 90 - Maeda

Tar-Palantir · Post by **Tar-Palantir** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:20 pm

Are you sure about the Vasara names? The flyer lists different ones:

Pretty samurai /sword boy: Yukimura
Requisite female player: Magoichi
Macho samurai guy: Sakon

Vasara 2:

Tar-Palantir - 3,568,200 - 4 - 97 - Mitsuhide

Vasara:

Tar-Palantir - around 911k - all - (forgot) - Sakon

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:25 pm

Tar-Palantir wrote:Are you sure about the Vasara names? The flyer lists different ones:

Pretty samurai /sword boy: Yukimura
Requisite female player: Magoichi
Macho samurai guy: Sakon

I went by the names listed in the Vasara review here on shmups.com, not sure where the reviewer's source for the names is. I know that the "sword guy's" first name is Yukimura, but I used his last name instead. The gal is only mentioned in the review as a member of an assassin clan called "Saika," so I just used that..."Magoichi" makes sense though, since the fan-wielding guy in Vasara 2 has that same name. No idea what kinda discrepancy exists with the spear guy. For now I'll leave 'em as is, but I'll see what i can find to come up with a more "proper" set of names.

As for your scores, the second one is a bit too inexact to include in that form, I'm afraid...I'll add the first one to the official list as soon as you tell me whether it's for the Easy or Hard game.

Tar-Palantir · Post by **Tar-Palantir** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:58 am

BulletMagnet wrote: As for your scores, the second one is a bit too inexact to include in that form, I'm afraid...I'll add the first one to the official list as soon as you tell me whether it's for the Easy or Hard game.

Hard. Of course

crithit5000 · Post by **crithit5000** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:40 pm

Switched to Saika in Vasara, got a much better score...milking bosses is easier for me with her. Still need to improve...

crithit5000 - 468,000 - 4 - 89 - Saika

Still working on a devent Vasara 2 score...

Tar-Palantir · Post by **Tar-Palantir** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:04 pm

For Vasara:

Tar-Palantir - 805,240 - 119 - Stage 5 - Magoichi/Saika

Vasara 2, easy mode:

Tar-Palantir - 4,396,150 - 98 - Stage 4 - Sandayu

Tar-Palantir · Post by **Tar-Palantir** » Wed May 25, 2005 3:18 am

For Vasara 2:

Easy mode:

Tar-Palantir - 4,468,000 - Stage 4 - 95 - Sandayu

Hard mode:

Tar-Palantir - 4,631,000 - Stage 4 - 98 - Sandayu

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Wed May 25, 2005 3:30 am

Hmm, been awhile.

Scores updated!

janrodricks · Post by **janrodricks** » Sat May 28, 2005 2:33 am

Figured I'd add my score to the list of a game I could actually appear on

heh heh

janrodricks - 178,690 - 2 - 55 - Sanada

Tar-Palantir · Post by **Tar-Palantir** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:07 pm

Vasara 2, hard mode:

Tar-Palantir - 4,892,390 - 4 - 98 - Sandayu

Tar-Palantir · Post by **Tar-Palantir** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 5:42 am

And again:

Vasara 2, hard:

Tar-Palantir - 5,347,280 - 5 - 118 - Sanadyu

PlasmaBlooD · Post by **PlasmaBlooD** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 12:30 pm

Vasara:
BLOODY - 713,660 - 5 - 134 - Saika

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:06 pm

Scores updated!

Keep the entries coming: I haven't had a chance to play this for a bit (I've been stuck on Garegga for a bit now), but I'll do my best to keep things current in this thread.

Capt. Takehiko · Post by **Capt. Takehiko** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:36 pm

Vasara
Capt. Takehiko - 180,720 - 2 - 57 – Maeda

Vasara 2
Easy Mode: Capt. Takehiko - 3,291,250 - 4 - 60 - Magoichi

Edit: Un-capitalised titles, very common to do. BulletMagnet I know your cool but I hope that you copied this onto the board as a reminder and forgot to remove it.

PlasmaBlooD · Post by **PlasmaBlooD** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:46 pm

Vasara:
BLOODY - 784,440 - 5 - 142 - Saika

Vorpal · Post by **Vorpal** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:18 pm

Been having fun with this radically different (to me) shooter. Its a nice breath of fresh air from Garegga... being able to swipe away those bullet patterns at will amuses me greatly :D

Vorpal - 638,710 - 5 - 143 - Sanada

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:35 pm

I assume that's for Vasara 1, right? If so, score updated.

Vorpal · Post by **Vorpal** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:51 pm

Oh, sorry forget to mention that. Yes it is Vasara 1.

flux · Post by **flux** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:37 pm

vasara:
flux - 243,910 - 3 - 85 - Sanda

Tar-Palantir · Post by **Tar-Palantir** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:30 am

Vasara:

Tar-Palantir - 1,000,320 - 6 - 144 - Magoichi

Tar-Palantir · Post by **Tar-Palantir** » Wed Aug 03, 2005 3:35 pm

Vasara 2, Hard:

Tar-Palantir - 5,851,360 - 5 - 113 - Sandayu

Perfect run until the Stage 4 boss (where I lost 2 lives), then I recovered but died by the purple bullets of the green tank sub-boss.

crithit5000 · Post by **crithit5000** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:54 pm

Vasara-

crithit5000 - 515,470 - 4 - 90 - Saika

Tar-Palantir · Post by **Tar-Palantir** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:15 pm

Vasara 2, Easy:

Tar-Palantir - 6,325,290 - 6 - 128 - Sandayu

The first time I beat Hideyoshi (and made it to Stage 6) !

!

Tar-Palantir · Post by **Tar-Palantir** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:10 pm

Vasara 2, Hard:

Tar-Palantir - 6,124,610 - 5 - 112 - Sandayu

I still go to pieces at the stage 4 boss, but I'm working on milking Nobutada.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:36 am

Keep up the good work! I actually haven't even touched this game or anything at all in MAME for months now, since I've got a lot of console stuff to occupy me for the moment, but don't worry, I'll keep updating, and hopefully get the chance to come back to the Vasaras one of these days.

Post by **Dave_K.** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:16 pm

I absolutely love the style/presentation of this game, and thought it was pretty hard. I was about to purchase both PCBs since they are suspiciously cheap everwhere I looked, but decided to first watch some highscoring replays off MARP. Well I'm glad I did this, as the game looks flawed with the charge attack. Clearly you can finish the entire game just using the charge attack, and without firing a single shot! Maybe its just the female character that is mostly unbalanced, but I'm surprised nobody else noticed this (seeing the scores here pretty small compared to the millions you can get by just doing charge attacks).

It looks like the developers recognized this unbalanced gameplay and tried to fix it somewhat by having purple un-blockable bullets in Vasara 2. But its doesn't seem to be enough to me, and not firing a single shot makes this game not much fun IMHO.

crithit5000 · Post by **crithit5000** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:46 pm

Dave_K. wrote:Maybe its just the female character that is mostly unbalanced, but I'm surprised nobody else noticed this (seeing the scores here pretty small compared to the millions you can get by just doing charge attacks).

Believe me, I've noticed...It just doesn't actually bother me, as I've just accepted it as the way it is...Gigawing with no charging and Psikyo-style gameplay, basically. When I play, I rarely let off shots except for when the screen's a bit crowded with enemies at the top, opting for the charge attack about 95% of the time. I find the real fun to be letting the center of the screen get littered with enemies and letting off a well timed charge, scooping up a nice combo/chain...milking bosses is a bit less fun, though.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:03 pm

Dave_K. wrote:Clearly you can finish the entire game just using the charge attack, and without firing a single shot!

Heh, that is true (I think the review of Vasara 1 on this site even mentions that), but I personally find it forgiveable...I mentioned the Vasaras on my past "Non-Shooting Shmups" topic, since "traditional shooting" is more or less discouraged by the scoring system, not to mention the ability to cancel bullets...it's not exactly unique in that respect (Giga Wing 2, the later Cottons, etc.), but I readily acknowledge that its gameplay style isn't for everyone. I still don't mind something a little different from time to time though...speaking of which, I've been considering starting a Psyvariar HS topic, which also appeared on my "non-shooting" list...