?'s ref: DDP USED for PS1 at Play-Asia

ktg · Post by **ktg** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:57 pm

First off I remembering reading that there was a certain PS1 shooter that didn't work on the PS2 and wanted to make sure this wasn't it. I think it might have been Gradius Gaiden. I only have a JPS2.

Secondly, does a US PS1 Mem Card work on a JPS2 with a JPS1 game? I know my US PS2 Mem Card works for JPS2 games.

And lastly, has anyone purchased a used game from Play-Asia before? Was it in good condition? I know that in general Japanese take much better care of there games than Americans, but when the price is $110 dollars you'd think the disc wouldn't have a single scratch on it.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:13 am

ktg wrote:First off I remembering reading that there was a certain PS1 shooter that didn't work on the PS2 and wanted to make sure this wasn't it. I think it might have been Gradius Gaiden. I only have a JPS2.

Gradius Gaiden (Stage 7 doesn't work), Gradius Deluxe Pack (Gradius II doesn't work), and Toaplan Shooting Battle (Twin Cobra and Kyuukyoku Tiger don't work).

Secondly, does a US PS1 Mem Card work on a JPS2 with a JPS1 game? I know my US PS2 Mem Card works for JPS2 games.

Yes.

And lastly, has anyone purchased a used game from Play-Asia before? Was it in good condition? I know that in general Japanese take much better care of there games than Americans, but when the price is $110 dollars you'd think the disc wouldn't have a single scratch on it.

I've ordered some used games from them before and always found them to be in excellent condition.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:15 am

Everything CIT said. Play-Asia's used products are truly mint, ime.

Sklabah · Post by **Sklabah** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:31 am

CIT wrote:
ktg wrote:First off I remembering reading that there was a certain PS1 shooter that didn't work on the PS2 and wanted to make sure this wasn't it. I think it might have been Gradius Gaiden. I only have a JPS2.
Gradius Gaiden (Stage 7 doesn't work)

Really? That stinks. I bought that game recently and only havd a PS2 to play it on. Bummer.

ktg · Post by **ktg** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:10 am

Thank you for the quick replies!

Order placed. $116 poorer.

Thinimus · Post by **Thinimus** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:25 am

I have a JP PS2 and stage seven of Gradius Gaiden works but at about at half speed. Music plays normally but there's constant slowdown until you get past the terrain being sucked into the blackhole.

It's annoying, but it definately doesn't make the game unplayable.

Maybe it's because I have a very first release PS2. The CPU clock speed hadn't been upgraded by Sony yet. (They quitely bumped it up over the years several times). But honestly, I don't know why mine can run it.

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:57 am

$116? What did you get besides DDP, if I might ask? ^_^

It's too bad I don't know of a way to make US PS2's play JP PS1 games, short of modding. I don't think the swap magic CD will work =( Otherwise I'd buy this.

http://www.japangamestock.com/buy_video ... s_id=10512

ktg · Post by **ktg** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:23 am

DDP only.

Hopefully it's in perfect condition.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:40 am

Yeah, the PS1 version is going to cost quite a bit more than the Saturn version, obviously. Now you just need to get a Jap PS1 to play it on.

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:09 am

japangamestock has a copy for around $70. I've never had any problems with the condition of games from japangamestock.

NTSC-J · Post by **NTSC-J** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:44 am

For $116 it better be factory sealed. I could've sold you a mint complete one for almost half that.

ktg · Post by **ktg** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:53 am

Oh well.

What do I know?

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:49 am

I think a Near Mint PS1 DDP costs around 7,000 yen.

And that is what I paid for mine.

hikarutilmitt · Post by **hikarutilmitt** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:45 am

Arvandor wrote:$116? What did you get besides DDP, if I might ask? ^_^

It's too bad I don't know of a way to make US PS2's play JP PS1 games, short of modding. I don't think the swap magic CD will work =( Otherwise I'd buy this.

http://www.japangamestock.com/buy_video ... s_id=10512

If you have a flip top or (gasp) a slide card you can use a PSone game shark and swap when the GS tells you to insert the game. This doesn't work 100% on all games, though, because my copy of Makeruna! Makendo 2 doesn't load at all.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:19 am

CIT wrote:
ktg wrote:
First off I remembering reading that there was a certain PS1 shooter that didn't work on the PS2 and wanted to make sure this wasn't it. I think it might have been Gradius Gaiden. I only have a JPS2.

Gradius Gaiden (Stage 7 doesn't work)

Really? That stinks. I bought that game recently and only havd a PS2 to play it on. Bummer.

mine plays this also but slows down.... mine is one of the PS2s 1st out the gate and it's still going..... have had to replace the laser though.

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:36 am

hikarutilmitt wrote:
Arvandor wrote:$116? What did you get besides DDP, if I might ask? ^_^

It's too bad I don't know of a way to make US PS2's play JP PS1 games, short of modding. I don't think the swap magic CD will work =( Otherwise I'd buy this.

http://www.japangamestock.com/buy_video ... s_id=10512
If you have a flip top or (gasp) a slide card you can use a PSone game shark and swap when the GS tells you to insert the game. This doesn't work 100% on all games, though, because my copy of Makeruna! Makendo 2 doesn't load at all.

Aha... Did not know that ^_^ I might just have to do this for DDP. I really enjoy the Saturn version, but everyone says it's this horrible bastardized inbred cousin abortion port.

Edit: n/m, I looked at one on ebay and it says it won't work on newer PS2s =/ Maybe it's just the wrong gameshark? Who knows. If it really comes down to it, maybe down the road I'll just grab myself a jp PS2.

eretsua · Post by **eretsua** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:14 pm

ktg wrote:Oh well.

What do I know?

It's a bit unfriendly all those people here offering you their copies for less than what you've paid after you've placed your order.

If you are really unhappy with your purchase you can cancel it with them but only before the order status changes to shipped (or maybe only even to the packing stage).

Play-Asia's 2nd hand stuff is mint and happy so if your order has been shipped already just trust in that you'll have a spotless copy. And maybe consider all that you overpaid learning money cause I'm pretty sure you'll check the average going price in the future before placing an order...(not in anyway meant offensive! I myself have overpaid for items as well in the past).

~eretsua.

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:36 pm

Yeah, I felt almost bad making the "you got a pretty bad deal," post, but we all have to learn sometime (I know I did, the hard way), I just figured I'd be the one to punch him in the face this time ;)

On that note though, while DDP goes for much less than what you paid for it, you're still getting your money's worth in my opinion. Dodonpachi is up amongst my top 3 shooters, those being Radiant Silvergun, DDP, and ESPgaluda (odd list, I know =P) If prices were all distorted, and DDP really did go for as much as Radiant Silvergun, I wouldn't hesitate to buy it for that much. Truly awesome.

NTSC-J · Post by **NTSC-J** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:37 pm

eretsua wrote:
ktg wrote:Oh well.

What do I know?

It's a bit unfriendly all those people here offering you their copies for less than what you've paid after you've placed your order.

Unfriendly? He could've asked if it was a good deal before placing the order, but it looks like he bought it within an hour of his first post. In general, I'd say it's a good idea to poke around the web a bit before paying for an expensive item, but I think we're all guilty of making quick purchases in a hurry to get a wanted item.

No worries though, it's well worth that price and more. If anything, it's value will increase over the next few years, so its good to get one now anyways.

tekneekz · Post by **tekneekz** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:15 am

you will love ddp forever.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:32 am

Arvandor wrote: I really enjoy the Saturn version, but everyone says it's this horrible bastardized inbred cousin abortion port.

Bah, the Saturn port's just fine, most of its inferiorities to the PS1 version are purely cosmetic.

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:27 am

BulletMagnet wrote:
Arvandor wrote: I really enjoy the Saturn version, but everyone says it's this horrible bastardized inbred cousin abortion port.
Bah, the Saturn port's just fine, most of its inferiorities to the PS1 version are purely cosmetic.

Really? Because people's panties seem to get in much more of a bind over the Saturn port of DDP than most other "bad" ports. I think the only complaint I've heard detailed was the "pixlated explosions" and remember thinking "Bleh, so what?"

I will admit this game is nigh unplayable in yoko mode though. I played quite a few shooters prior to DDP, and never really thought about or cared about tate. But after playing DDP for a few days, it just "felt" like it needed to be tated. So I procured a junky 19" TV from a friend, flipped it on its side, and viola... MUUUUUCH better, ahhh... Most games are fine in yoko, but DDP is ... just especially bad for some reason.

Wolf44 · Post by **Wolf44** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:48 am

Damn and I was planning on buying that copy they had up, had my eye on it the last few weeks.

I just ordered valkyrie profile original from them not long ago with DDP Doj and while it was [pre owned] it was literly re shrinked and after opening it up you would swear it really was MINT, the spine card was perfect and all the warranty stuff was there, discs were spotless, I would easily buy pre owned from them again if they are all like this.

The price was pretty steep but I have a feeling it is probably ultra hyper NM, the real question is if that is a decent price for DDP in that kind of shape or not. I would have paid it simply because of the spinecard and shape of it, there was one up on ebay not long ago with no spine and it was around 69 or 79 I believe, I mean hey when your paying that kind of cash for a used game it better have a spine card.

1- is ddp psx rare or in high demand ?

2- What is the average in demand price for it on ebay when it is in the shape it was on p-a ?

3- Will it go up in value more or will it drop or what ?

Since this is the shmups community I am surprised nobody has really mentioned much over it being rare and its value, port issues and whatnot aside.

NTSC-J · Post by **NTSC-J** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:41 am

Its rarity isn't really a secret and gets mentioned around here frequently. It's in high demand since word of the quality of the port has now become common knowledge and everyone has accepted that the Saturn put out an inferior port (although for the record, I prefer the Saturn one to the PS one due to it being closer to the PCB).

I put a mint complete copy on ebay a few months ago and the highest it went was $50, but I've seen copies go for up to 70 or 80. If anyone was looking for one in pristine shape with the regi card, spine and all that, I could hook you up.

I think the value will continue to rise as PS imports become more in demand. Its a worthwhile investment for sure.

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