How much music is crammed onto your Mp3 player?

FatCobra · Post by **FatCobra** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:25 pm

How many songs have some of you managed to stuff into your portable music player? Obviously, longer songs and high quality files take up more space, but I'm going to attempt to stuff as much music as I can into my 1GB Zen Nano. The key I think is to convert my music in 64kps wma format. Now, before you bash me for using a low-quality format, I normally use 128kps mp3s and when I listened to a song in both formats, I can't tell the difference. Wish me luck!

DJ Incompetent · Post by **DJ Incompetent** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:31 pm

a 32mb mp3 watch.

24 songs.

Game music.

dementia · Post by **dementia** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:39 pm

8473 songs, 49GB; max capacity is 80GB, so it should last me.

Triple Lei · Post by **Triple Lei** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:43 pm

I just use my DS Lite together with my M3 Lite and 1 GB micro SD card. I usually load it up with movies and leave just enough room for one album (in ogg), a few random (and usually video game related) songs, and a week's worth of Penn Radio archives.

I no longer see the point in carrying gigs worth of music. When I'm on the go I usually just want to listen to my "flavor of the week" anyway, and I won't be able to hear the difference between 128kps or higher when I'm walking or I'm on the bus... so "lossless audio" isn't a big deal to me.

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:03 pm

I'm with Triple Lei here. I'm just using a 1GB and putting stuff in rotation. But the Asian pop is pretty constant, so it's just the power metal that rotates. And I only use it when I'm exercising or going for long-ish bus rides anyway. And by long, I mean ~1.5 hours. I don't need 30 hours of music for a 1.5 hour ride.

Jon · Post by **Jon** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:23 pm

I just got an 80 gig iPod a few weeks ago. Since then I have spent an ungodly amount of time importing cd's into my library and still have barely broken the 3 gig mark. Its going to take forever but having my entire music collection on that little brick will be a very cool thing indeed.

FatCobra · Post by **FatCobra** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:30 pm

Normally, I don't stuff my mp3 player with music either. Usually it's just the "flavor of the week" albums and random tracks for me as all. My sis, on the other hand, has already filled up her 4GB Ipod. I'm more into single tracks rather than whole albums; but I like some albums are layed out and some them tell a story.

I'd use those full lossless formats if they didn't take up so much space (my laptop, which serves as an docking station for my Mp3 player, only has a 20GB hard-drive). But, maybe I'll convert one of my albums into that format and check out the difference, if there's any (you probably need those $100 headphones to tell the difference anyway).

I'm doing this because just wanna see how many songs and albums I can stuff into the thing. The lowest quality wma bitrate sounds like total shit, while 64kps is pretty close to a 128 kbs mp3 with 50% less space.

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:44 pm

But, maybe I'll convert one of my albums into that format and check out the difference, if there's any

If you convert an mp3 to a full-lossless format, it will still only be the same quality of the mp3, maybe worse. You'd have to get it in the full-lossless format in the first place and then convert to mp3 to hear any differences.

Vexorg · Post by **Vexorg** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:32 pm

I don't actually own a portable MP3 player, nor have I really even found any particular use for one. I have a portable MP3 CD player, but it resides in the car and gets little use. I don't think I have more than about 3-4GB of MP3s on my hard drive though, although I need to look into updating my collection somewhat.

Klatrymadon · Post by **Klatrymadon** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:50 pm

About 5 or 6 albums at a time. It's an el cheapo one.

I'm the opposite to Vexorg, though. I use mine every day - especially on the way to university. Works a charm when you want to shut out the city center and get through that clipboard gauntlet unmolested!

JBC · Post by **JBC** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:28 pm

I'm not sure, but about 15-17 albums worth. I know i've got some Megadriver on there. Oh, Aural Vampire too ^.^

Specineff · Post by **Specineff** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:33 pm

FatCobra wrote:64kps is pretty close to a 128 kbs mp3 with 50% less space.

BLASPHEMY! BAN, PLZ.

FatCobra · Post by **FatCobra** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:52 pm

Specineff wrote:
FatCobra wrote:64kps is pretty close to a 128 kbs mp3 with 50% less space.
BLASPHEMY! BAN, PLZ.

LOL, my ears can't tell the difference but maybe yours does.

EDIT: Actually, I was wrong, I can tell the difference. 64kps WMA sounds like a tin can.

VNAF Ace · Post by **VNAF Ace** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:56 am

I don't even have an MP3 player...

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:06 am

FatCobra wrote: LOL, my ears can't tell the difference but maybe yours does.

At 64kbps you could be listening to anything and it'd all sound the same. Time to see the doc. Gotta be at least 192.

FatCobra · Post by **FatCobra** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:32 am

Rob wrote:
FatCobra wrote: LOL, my ears can't tell the difference but maybe yours does.
At 64kbps you could be listening to anything and it'd all sound the same. Time to see the doc. Gotta be at least 192.

My ears don't need cleaning, I think the song I was using made it hard to tell the difference. Other songs in the same album clearly showed some difference.

So much for music cramming I guess.

Blade · Post by **Blade** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:45 am

There should be some kind of statute of limitations with regards to Battery Life and GB Space.

If you can't play all the songs on your i-Pod without the battery going dead and having to recharge, from start to finish, that'd be reasonable, I think.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:47 am

Blade wrote: If you can't play all the songs on your i-Pod without the battery going dead and having to recharge, from start to finish, that'd be reasonable, I think.

How long does the battery typically last?

FatCobra · Post by **FatCobra** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:47 am

Blade wrote:There should be some kind of statute of limitations with regards to Battery Life and GB Space.

If you can't play all the songs on your i-Pod without the battery going dead and having to recharge, from start to finish, that'd be reasonable, I think.

That's true. What's the point of having all that music if your battery dies before you listen to them all?

I wonder if the bitrate and format affect the battery life as well. I've heard rumors that WMA files suck more juice out than MP3's do. Is that true?

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:57 am

I uh... I don't have an MP3 player.

icepick · Post by **icepick** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:55 am

I got one of those Diamond Multimedia Rio PMP300 players, a while after they came out. Anyone else still have one of these? It's got only 32 MB onboard and transfer is really slow (parallel port), but I can't bring myself to get rid of mine.

I've got 64 MB total now, because someone happened to give me a spare 32 MB card that they weren't using. The memory isn't... what's the word that I'm looking for? It's not... "mapped together," so it behaves as separate 32 MB + 32 MB. Files can't span from the internal to the external, so even though I might have exactly 64 MB of music, chances are good that one of the tracks in the middle will be on this 32-33 MB border and I'll have to pick one or two of the tracks to leave out so that they fit.

Still, it's light, runs for 12 hours on an AA cell (24 with lithium!), and sounds alright. I don't use it very often, but it works pretty well to simply encode or transcode MP3s to be whichever bitrate will allow all of them (say, the Gradius V soundtrack) to fit onto the player. You'd be surprised by what you can get away with when using today's encoders, they're pretty good.

I've got a new fascination with MP3 CD players, though. I picked one out for my mom on eBay last year (I think?) because she had to take a trip and wanted to study some material on audio cassette while she was there (which meant lugging an absurd amount of cassettes plus a cassette deck). Long story short, I decided that I could fit all of the material onto two MP3 CDs, which involved a lot of recording and encoding, but worked out very well. She didn't really use it after that, so I sort of commandeered it and think that it's cool that I could bring a CD of, like, nine albums with me at a time.

The only reason that I'd want something like an iPod is to, like many have said, simply have my entire collection immediately available and portable. Optimally, it'd basically serve as an external HDD with a built-in MP3 player. I don't need anything like that right now though, so, MP3 CD player it is. If I had an iPod right now, it'd probably get dropped or stolen... Plus, if you go on vacation with an MP3 CD player and you buy a new CD, guess what? You get to listen to it!

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:17 pm

I came up with 6789 songs, and about 36 gb. Though when I started I was compressing more in the 128 range, and have now started re-importing at 192.

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:09 pm

I got a 2gig Nano about 2months before they re-released them. I was a little pissed. I can't fit all of my music on there, but enough of it to matter. I originally had no plans to ever buy an iPod, but after having three mp3 players go out on me, I figured I'd take the fall and get one under the pesumptions that there had to be something that kept them in one piece, and if not then at least I could get mine repaired instead of buying another one. It hasn't exploded yet so I'm feeling pretty good. In hindsight I should have gotten the 4gig though.

PsikyoPshumpPshooterP · Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:21 pm

2 gig stick for my psp filled with 120 songs and cps2,cps1 emu, and iso's

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:29 am

I got 43.8 Gb with only 1,471 songs ?!? Each song used up around 30 Mb ?!?

That's the price for storing in uncompress format. But there are still 157 GB free disk space on my HDD, no pressure for compressing them right now.

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:37 am

iatneH wrote:I'm with Triple Lei here. I'm just using a 1GB and putting stuff in rotation. But the Asian pop is pretty constant, so it's just the power metal that rotates. And I only use it when I'm exercising or going for long-ish bus rides anyway. And by long, I mean ~1.5 hours. I don't need 30 hours of music for a 1.5 hour ride.

I second that. Why does anyone need 100 Gb of music and only found the battery of their MP3 player won't last enough to play back 10% of it.

Well I do own 43.8 Gb of music and capisity of 250 Gb in storing device, but that's my desk top PC and it is the only MP3 playback equirment I own.

Post by **Icarus** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:43 am

1900+ tracks. Something like 100 individual albums.
15GB iPod (3rd generation), 2.5GB free for PC <-> Mac data transfers using FireWire.
Mixture of trance, chillout and videogame music.
All organised with WinAmp and the ml_iPod Media Library plugin.

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:35 am

SAM wrote:Why does anyone need 100 Gb of music and only found the battery of their MP3 player won't last enough to play back 10% of it.

The spontaneity of being able to play any album from your music library you choose?

Batteries can be recharged?

seattlexc · Post by **seattlexc** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:15 am

I've got 6982 songs on my 60G video ipod. I don't think I could ever go back to using a CD player after using an ipod for the last several years.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:58 pm

Rob wrote:
FatCobra wrote: LOL, my ears can't tell the difference but maybe yours does.
At 64kbps you could be listening to anything and it'd all sound the same. Time to see the doc. Gotta be at least 192.

iTunes gives you 128kbs, and it seems fine. My equipment sux, though. I mostly play music from my laptop, using inexpensive Creative Zen speakers.

My Zen MP3 player has great, simple software, but it's just 1GB so I don't usually have more than about 19 albums at a time. I usually rotate once or twice a week.