current favorite albums

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:38 pm

Don't expect something special out of Jack Johnson though if you don't like the other material. Honestly I found everything on that original list I put up quite similar, so I really feel hesitant sending you off for Jack Johnson if you didn't like ther others.

Er, I guess I'm saying 'Don't blame me'. Personally I never felt that Pangea or Agharta were anything above and beyond the other works mentioned, so don't go into it expecting something different.

Bitches Brew made useless? Really?

SheSaidDutch · Post by **SheSaidDutch** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:58 pm

Joan of Arc-Eventually all at once

Could anyone recommend me some artists in the following genres- Folk, Jazz, Blues, Instrumental. Also any lo-fi/minimalistic stuff would be greatly appreciated also.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:30 am

SheSaidDutch wrote:Folk,

Comus.

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:55 am

SheSaidDutch wrote:Also any lo-fi/minimalistic stuff would be greatly appreciated also.

Hahahaha...www.lastvisibledog.com

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:49 am

Animal Collective, various

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:50 am

CMoon wrote: Hahahaha...www.lastvisibledog.com

Seriously, every home needs at least the Elegy Box.

Klatrymadon · Post by **Klatrymadon** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:21 am

Behold... The Arctopus - Nano-Nucleonic Cyborg Summoning EP

Oooh, it's fab.

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:26 am

Daniel Johnston - Yip/Jump Music
Young Marble Giants - Colossal Youth

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:06 am

I have a small list of power-crap-metal I'm trying to sell (I'll take it back to the store eventually), but I'm making the prices really low for any of you that still love power-metal (get out while you can!!!)

http://www.lastvisibledog.com/cdsale.htm

Obviously all cds are in excellent condition. My cat hasn't peed on a single one of them!

Oh, I also wanted to point out that Czukay's Canaxis has been reissued cheaply on CD:
http://www.amazon.com/Canaxis-Holger-Cz ... F8&s=music

Saw it at newbury's for $10 and almost picked it up just to have a second copy. This is a fantastic pre-krautrock album from one of the members of Can, but it is really an early exercize in sampling, loops, field recordings and electronics.

Very, very highly recommended for those interested in that kind of thing, and just an outright beautiful (but very challenging) album.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:55 am

Godz - Godz 2 -- amazing
Immolation - Here in After
Shining - Grindstone -- best '07 album I've heard yet
Kultivator - Barndomens Stigar -- avant-prog that doesn't make me want to kill
Debris - Static Disposal -- found by comparison to Chrome, did not disappoint
Area - Crac! -- those vocals
Camel - The Snow Goose
Popol Vuh - Letzte Tage - Letzte Nachte
Mnemonists - Horde
Brand X - Unorthodox Behavior

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:42 am

faraquet - the view from this tower (my favorite right now)
deerhoof - friend opportunity
fugazi - in on the kill taker (tried fugazi out because they allegedly influenced unwound; some good moments here and there)
king crimson - red
red house painters I (rollercoaster)
immolation - unholy cult

Thinking about getting:
immolation - close to a world below
shining - grindstone

MOSQUITO FIGHTER · Post by **MOSQUITO FIGHTER** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:11 pm

Mogwai – Mr. Beast
Dillinja/Capone – The Original Master
Dillinja - Cybotron
Three 6 Mafia – Most Known Unknown Hits
Hi-Tek – Hi-Teknology 2
Kanye West – Late Registration
Madlib vs Hi-Tek Mixed by DJ Skandal & Ameldabee
Chrome Children – Various Artists
Architect – The Analysis of Noise Trading
Datach'I – Shock Diamonds
Fila Brazillia – Retrospective
Defragmentation – Self Construct
Lamb – Fear of Fours
The Screws – Presents 12 New Hate-Filled Classics

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:48 am

Rob wrote:Godz - Godz 2 -- amazing

Unless I'm missing something, that's their best album by far. I own the other 2 ESP releases and they are definitely much weaker.

Mnemonists-Horde

Wow, that one takes me back. Remember that being one of the best as well. I still have several biota albums, but never picked up Horde.

professor ganson wrote: King Crimson - Red

Crimson was one my first 'weird' bands along with Eno, and I'll never really be able to seperate myself from that. Subsequently I love Red but think its flawed (severly). Starless and Lark's are definitely the winners in my mind. I wish I could really hear those two without the connection to my early listening experiences.

Ugh the best album I've heard lately is actually a promo I received, so it makes it a little difficult to discuss without sounding like a douchbag, but just leaving the details out, this nameless album by this nameless band sounds like Tangerine Dream (zeit period) meets Brian Eno's music for films, with a sort of distant, lonely thing going on.

I mention this because although plenty of people have build on the early-mid 70's ambient material, they never really directly followed it up. So it is good to know that artists can legitimately still follow-up on these sounds without coming off as intentionally retro or derivative.

Other than that, mostly keep working on Miles Davis, Windir and classical. What do you want?

(oh, and Windir's Liekferd is the first of his albums I haven't really enjoyed. The others seem really solid.)

Axon · Post by **Axon** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:13 am

Johnny Winter-S/T
Mahavishnu Orchestra-Inner Mounting Flame

Even though I should give them a few more listens, I'm kind of disappointed, sure better than Romantic Warrior though.

Addressing Crim, I urge those who liked the Larks era and haven't already to check out some of the live material from that period. They are certainly beefier and IMO better, while John's voice and The Night Watch are better in the studio, the improvs and extra additions to songs certainly make up for it. There is still inconsistency but when they get going the results are spectacular. The Collectable King Crimson: Volume One is a great place to start because the Asbury Park disc makes USA obsolete and you get another concert for about $4 more. You can also purchase a crapload of bootlegs at dgm live and Live At Central Park seems to be the best Larks era one. I have only heard two tracks, but one, the improv Cerberus is BRILLIANT. My favorite work of theirs, even beating out the version of Schizoid Man on Earthbound.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:18 am

professor ganson wrote: Thinking about getting:
immolation - close to a world below
shining - grindstone

I'd skip the Shining album so the song I put on the mix isn't spoiled.

CMoon wrote:
Rob wrote:Godz - Godz 2 -- amazing
Unless I'm missing something, that's their best album by far. I own the other 2 ESP releases and they are definitely much weaker.

It's so perfect I don't even want to hear any other album yet. Maybe I should keep it that way.

Subsequently I love Red but think its flawed (severly).

I especially love the first three songs. What don't you like about it? I'd place Starless second, Larks third, but they're both new to me. I'm guessing there are no other KC studio albums worth checking out (similar to these)?

Axon wrote:Johnny Winter-S/T
Mahavishnu Orchestra-Inner Mounting Flame

Even though I should give them a few more listens, I'm kind of disappointed, sure better than Romantic Warrior though.

I didn't really like Inner Mounting Flame. Is Birds of Fire better? Does anyone have any fusion-y suggestions similar to the Brand X album a few posts up?

Now listening: Kousokuya & Masayoshi Urabe - The Dark Spot. I went though bunches of Japanese psych-rock last summer and this tops most of what I heard. Nice!

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:45 pm

Rob wrote: I especially love the first three songs. What don't you like about it? I'd place Starless second, Larks third, but they're both new to me. I'm guessing there are no other KC studio albums worth checking out (similar to these)?

Well first off, Red is the album where the band is completely falling apart. David Cross isn't even officially part of the group anymore, Wetton is apparently about ready to jump ship to Asia (who knows?) Fallen Angel is a great track, but far closer to a pop song then I like hearing Crimson be. I actually don't like One More Red Nightmare (its OK), and the improv Providence I don't recall being as good as the ones on Starless and Bible Black. Starless (the song) is also problematic. Its opening and closer are great but I feel like the mid-section could use re-working.

Ultimately, Red feels like a mixed bag to me. The improv and 'power' parts of it do not excel what has already been laid down own Lark's and S&BB, while the songier parts feel out of place. Really, this is a band losing its identity (which reflects I think the mindset of the players involved).

Lark's and S&BB though...those two are absolutely classic IMO. The first for its composed textures and not really being part of any genre at all (good lord, Jamie Muir was part of the band at one point which really says how completely 'out' they were!), while S&BB has an incredible dusky, gritty atmosphere to it that spans the gap between improv and composition. It is a roughly hewn album that I think will grow tremendously on anyone who's willing to give it a chance.

Now understand, Red definitely isn't bad, but it is more of a dessert after the main course. Make sure and really give the other two a chance (alone with the amazing (though way too damn expensive) 'great deceiver' set.)

As far as other Crimson, I like 'in the court of the crimson king' (though it is way too overblown), and 'Islands'--another broken album, but one that has some real character to it, and a certain ugliness that I don't even know if it was intentional or not. Everyone hates Islands, and as a whole album, it isn't great, but there are definitely moments of brilliance.

I also rather like Discipline, but it is easy to say this is not Crimson anymore, but just a new-wave interpretation of Frippertronics.

Now listening: Kousokuya & Masayoshi Urabe - The Dark Spot. I went though bunches of Japanese psych-rock last summer and this tops most of what I heard. Nice!

Jesus christ! Do I need to make a PSF list now? Yes, this is a great album. If you want to score another Kousokuya for cheap, I think Forced Exposure still has their 'live RayNight' CD (or something like that), for much less than buying a PSF release.

Rob, what other PSF-esque stuff are you listening to? I don't know if you are just starting down this road, but seriously consider purchasing the first three volumes of Tokyo Flashback (you'll thank me later!)

http://www.forcedexposure.com/bin/searc ... ield=title

Let me know if you want any recommendations in this whole japanese psych scene. This, Krautrock and New Zealand free-noise make up my favorite areas of music and I'm actively trying to promote the latter two (releasing albums, trying to help set up gigs when I can, etc.) So yeah, if you want to dig in more, let me know.

Edited for stupid spelling errors

Monk 0 Nuggets · Post by **Monk 0 Nuggets** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:52 pm

Neon wrote:Daniel Johnston - Yip/Jump Music

Did you see "The Devil and Daniel Johnston"? If not, go see it. It's insane.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:36 pm

Very interesting remarks on KC, CMoon. It's been many, many years since I last heard Lark's. I'll keep an eye out for a used copy. I don't want to pay full-price because the vocals on their albums sound so dated for me (likewise the hand-clapping in One More Red Nightmare) and that's hard for me to get past, as much as I enjoy other aspects of their sound.

Discipline is very meaningful to me because it was one of the albums (along with Eno pop and ambient stuff) that first helped me get beyond my classic rock phase, when I would only listen to Zepplin, Floyd, Sabbath... I suppose Bach was pretty important in this regard as well.

Rob wrote:I'd skip the Shining album so the song I put on the mix isn't spoiled.

Cool, I independently decided to put my money on:

Immolation - Close to a World Below
Meshuggah - Nothing (2006 remix)

Both of these albums are sooo great, but they exhaust me after the third track or so. The Meshuggah remix is much improved for me-- less grating, no less complex. Still exhausting, though.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:33 pm

CMoon wrote: Now understand, Red definitely isn't bad, but it is more of a dessert after the main course. Make sure and really give the other two a chance (alone with the amazing (though way too damn expensive) 'great deceiver' set.)

What I really like about Red is how dark and relatively abrasive it is for 70s rock. I'll definitely have to give LTIA more effort. I cast it aside too quickly. I can see Starless making the switch as favorite KC album... maybe. Cigarettes, ice cream!

Rob, what other PSF-esque stuff are you listening to? I don't know if you are just starting down this road, but seriously consider purchasing the first three volumes of Tokyo Flashback (you'll thank me later!)

Very little else judging by all of the proper name releases there. Favorites were High Rise (Live) and Mainliner (Mellow Out, not sure if they released this one), the more pummeling rock-oriented stuff. I could do with a little less compression, though. I definitely want to hear that Cinorama album (Garden something). Any good?

professor ganson wrote:the vocals on their albums sound so dated for me (likewise the hand-clapping in One More Red Nightmare)

YES on the hand clapping. It sounds so brittle. That's the one thing I hate.

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:33 pm

Regarding Red: The title track alone is enough to make it worth it. If they could have somehow made the whole album like that, it would have been genre defining.

Back to the Japanese stuff.

No, Mellow Out wasn't released by PSF. In fact, no Mailnliner was. Some was put out by Charnel House. PSF did all the High Rise and Musica Transonic stuff though.

Funny you mention Cinorama--I was just looking through the PSF catalog this morning, and they are one of the bands on that label I don't have.

Here's a quick list of favorites: (not all PSF)

Tokyo Flashback 1-3
Fushitsusha double live 1 & 2 (PSF 3/4 & 15/16), Gold Blood
Kan Mikami, Keiji Haino, Moto Yoshizawa / Live at 1st year of Heisei (PSF 5 &6)
White Heaven - Out (PSF 11)

Above bolded albums are completely life-altering shit. Do not pass up on them if you are a conscious entity!!!

Below are great too!

various Mikami and Tomakawa albums
The first two Vajra albums
Shizuka
Chie-Shizu (Nazareth in particular, but they are all good)
As far as High Rise, my vote goes to dispersion, but others are great too!
MIKAMI/HE YON/ISHITSUKA/SATOH - Fukon (PSF 8001)
Sanjah (PSF 8023)
Uptight-Lucretia (Alchemy)
Broomdusters (they only have one album, get that shit!)
And you know, there's that LSD-march and Miminokot I put out, also great!!
The thing with PSF is that I think the guy just releases music by his friends, so you see the same artists over and over. For instance, if you like Fushitsusha/Haino stuff, there are dozens of albums to buy. Same for everone else (except White Heaven, why??!!)

Of course, picking up some Le rallizes de nudes, and maybe the Jack's Vacant Worlds makes for a good start.

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:54 pm

Monk 0 Nuggets wrote:
Neon wrote:Daniel Johnston - Yip/Jump Music
Did you see "The Devil and Daniel Johnston"? If not, go see it. It's insane.

I bought it last night and watched it this morning, so I inadvertently obeyed your order, ha ha. I thought and felt there were some similarities with me and him, I only wish I had 1/10th the songwriting talent. Good thing my insanity is more benevolent.

Currently listening to:

Weird Al - Alapalooza
The Moldy Peaches - s/t
Unrest - Imperial f.f.r.r. (this kinda sucks, 1/2 developed ideas. Perfect Teeth FTW)

Axon · Post by **Axon** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:08 pm

Rob wrote:
Axon wrote:Johnny Winter-S/T
Mahavishnu Orchestra-Inner Mounting Flame

Even though I should give them a few more listens, I'm kind of disappointed, sure better than Romantic Warrior though.
I didn't really like Inner Mounting Flame. Is Birds of Fire better? Does anyone have any fusion-y suggestions similar to the Brand X album a few posts up?

I can't really say. I only have two tracks from Birds of Fire, the title track and Resolution. The title track is great, John plays the only solo but I like that because one of the problems with the first one was that there was too much noise in some tracks. The overall mood of the track is very oppresive and heavy, as is John's solo. The other is Resolution and it sounds like credits music, it's average. Birds of Fire is supposedly more composed than the first album and like the second group's Vision Of The Emerald Beyond.

Can anyone tell me about the Genesis albums Nursey Cryme, Foxtrot, and/or Live? Specificly which one is more rock-oriented since I'm pretty sure Genesis's soft side would sound cheesy to my ears.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:53 pm

Axon wrote:Can anyone tell me about the Genesis albums Nursey Cryme, Foxtrot, and/or Live? Specificly which one is more rock-oriented since I'm pretty sure Genesis's soft side would sound cheesy to my ears.

Good question. I recall liking Nursery Cryme pretty well 20 years ago, but I can't remember much about it. Sorry.

Brand X was a real surprise. I had no idea that Phil Collins was skilled enough to play as a studio musician at this level or that he had worked with Eno. I've only heard small bits so far, but I'm pretty tempted to pick this one up.

Album of the day:

Don Caballero - Don Caballero 2 (

I'm liking this more than ever)

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:06 am

If you are worried about early genesis sounding cheesy, stop now, because it will. In fact, why are we specifying early? All the genesis albums sound cheesy, it is just that the early ones are good.

Here's my take on the quality of their output:

1) tie: Foxtrot / Lamb Lies Down
2) Tresspass
3) tie: Selling England / Nursary Crimes
4) (and somewhat more distant) Trick of the tail

After this, there really is little point...

Monk 0 Nuggets · Post by **Monk 0 Nuggets** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:45 am

Neon wrote:
Monk 0 Nuggets wrote:
Neon wrote:Daniel Johnston - Yip/Jump Music
Did you see "The Devil and Daniel Johnston"? If not, go see it. It's insane.
I bought it last night and watched it this morning, so I inadvertently obeyed your order, ha ha. I thought and felt there were some similarities with me and him, I only wish I had 1/10th the songwriting talent. Good thing my insanity is more benevolent.

Nice. Such a strange dude.

Klatrymadon · Post by **Klatrymadon** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:40 pm

Nocturnus - Thresholds

Just rediscovering an old favourite here.

MovingTarget · Post by **MovingTarget** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:01 pm

At home its drum and bass;

Seba,
Klute, Renegade hardware and Bailey mixes.

At work its techno;

Dave Clark, Sander Van Doorn and Luke Slater mixes.

Edit: I forgot also Tool, at home and at work! The Lateralus and !0,000 days albums.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:32 am

Bal-Sagoth wrote:Nocturnus - Thresholds

Just rediscovering an old favourite here.

Make sure to check out The Key if you haven't.

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:21 am

Electric Wizard - Dopethrone

Dirtiest, filthiest, heaviest album ever? Quite possibly.

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:33 pm

Sounds like I'll have to look into that one.

Sleep - Dopesmoker