current favorite albums

Nemo · Post by **Nemo** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:20 am

"Embrace the Storm" - Stream of Passion
"Hammer and Nail" - White Cross
"Transitional Forms" Defyance
"Cowboy Bebop Blue" Yoko Kanno
"Zwei!! OST" - JDK
"Aegis" - Theatre of Tragedy

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:35 pm

Harmonia - Deluxe --

Penderecki - Matrix 5 --

Albert Ayler - Spiritual Unity
Nagamani Srinath - Sunada -- Wild Carnatic singing. Would love more. Info is hard to find, though...
Comus - First Utterance -- Bought the complete Comus collection. 2nd album was as lame as it was said to be.
Husker Du - Zen Arcade -- Always need some rock.

Michaelm · Post by **Michaelm** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:58 pm

The Moon Lay Hidden Beneath A Cloud - A New Soldier Follows The Path Of A New King

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:17 pm

Rob wrote:Harmonia - Deluxe --

Nice! I think I like 'music von' better, but what the hell! I also have a weird liking for the second La Dusseldorf...it is complete cheese like Deluxe...which is to say not just any old cheese but the best damn cheese you can imagine.

Penderecki - Matrix 5 --
Albert Ayler - Spiritual Unity

You should check out Ayler's 'live in greenwich village' CD reissue (adds essentially another record to the already two record set.) This is my favorite Ayler feel with Alan Silva and Sunny Murray guesting--I would actually consider putting this on my top 10 list of all time. Just all out fucking beautiful

That said, that ESP release you've got there is still a classic, and a bit edgier than the greenwich village set (perhaps in part to the sound quality)

Penderecki--oh shit. This guy started weird then got normal (what the hell?) If you can find Jutrznia/Utrenya it should be well worth your time. They used part of this in the soundtrack to The Shining. Crushes the most extreme noise acts you can think of like wet leaves under the boot. I don't think I can listen to this one very often, but great to have in your collection.

Comus - First Utterance -- Bought the complete Comus collection. 2nd album was as lame as it was said to be.

I didn't know there was a 'complete' collection, do you think its worth it?

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:29 pm

Rob wrote: Klaus Schulze - Irrlicht
Popol Vuh - Hosianna Mantra

Sorry for double post, just had to comment:

Irrlicht is funny to me because I did a 30 minute weird unrecognizable remix of it at one point that sounded more like radio static than anything else.

As far as Popul Vuh, have you heard In Den Gaerten Pharoahs yet?

sjewkestheloon · Post by **sjewkestheloon** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:05 pm

Listening to double vinyl Miles Davis and Gil Evans - The Original Greatest Hits, which seems to be the whole of Porgy and Bess, with Blues for Pablo, The Maids From Cadiz and Concierto De Aranjuez for good measure. Not heard this era Miles before but i like it a lot.

Also:
Acid Mother's Temple & The Melting Paraiso U.F.O. - The Penultimate Galactic Bordello Also The World You Made
Which i like a lot, especially the first CD which is all warm and psychy and the ideas flow enough to fill the track length, something i find so rare in these long experimental pieces.

Tried Boris - Absolutego again last night and it just doesn't do it for me like i thought at first. Too long by far, maybe 20 mins worth of ideas in there.

Been checking out the 365 Day Projects also, both the original 2003 mp3s and the new 2007 one. Has anyone else checked these out? Some classic wierdness! Basically a blog run by a guy and his mates where they pick out interesting music/spoken/journalist/performance pieces and release them one a day for a year. The new 2007 one is now happening (obviously) and expands on the first set by varying releases between singles and whole albums or radio shows. The first day of the year has an absolute classic radio show from 1981 by some evangelical twat discussing/dictating how all rock music is evil and how beatles records have hidden evil messages, going on to pick apart lyrics from loads of bands in an ammusing way.

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:14 pm

sjewkestheloon wrote: Acid Mother's Temple & The Melting Paraiso U.F.O. - The Penultimate Galactic Bordello Also The World You Made
Which i like a lot, especially the first CD which is all warm and psychy and the ideas flow enough to fill the track length, something i find so rare in these long experimental pieces.

If you can still find La Novia, this is for me their one TRULY GREAT album. I like a lot of their other albums, but when they did this (one single track cut into two sides of vinyl), they really outdid themselves and in some ways diminished everything else they had ever done. It is sometimes very much like krautrock I suppose, but that isn't what makes it good. Its just one of the best songs/jams they've ever done. Makes the Dead come off as rather nutless. Truly great stuff, I should listen to it more.

sjewkestheloon · Post by **sjewkestheloon** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:48 pm

CMoon wrote:
sjewkestheloon wrote: Acid Mother's Temple & The Melting Paraiso U.F.O. - The Penultimate Galactic Bordello Also The World You Made
Which i like a lot, especially the first CD which is all warm and psychy and the ideas flow enough to fill the track length, something i find so rare in these long experimental pieces.
If you can still find La Novia, this is for me their one TRULY GREAT album. I like a lot of their other albums, but when they did this (one single track cut into two sides of vinyl), they really outdid themselves and in some ways diminished everything else they had ever done. It is sometimes very much like krautrock I suppose, but that isn't what makes it good. Its just one of the best songs/jams they've ever done. Makes the Dead come off as rather nutless. Truly great stuff, I should listen to it more.

I'd noticed you had them listed on your label site. Did you release any of their material? I've read somewhere that they limited a lot of their stuff to only 100 copies etc and where you involved in this? A fascinating band/collective with an intimidating catalogue.

And yeah i'd rather listen to this than Live Dead, but only just. The Dead rock, assuming you are refering to this dead and i'm not totally misunderstanding you.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:49 pm

CMoon wrote: Nice! I think I like 'music von' better, but what the hell! I also have a weird liking for the second La Dusseldorf...it is complete cheese like Deluxe...which is to say not just any old cheese but the best damn cheese you can imagine.

Yeah, I just now got in the mood to hear all of the recommended krautrock albums I had been missing and this is probably my favorite. Definitely like the electronic leaning stuff best, as cheesy as it sounds. So far I've covered some Tangerine Dream, Popol Vuh (have heard In Den Gaerten Pharoahs - really good!), that Klaus Schulze album, and Zuckerzeit. I wanted to get more into electronic music this year - not exactly what I had in mind, ha (with fellow cheesemongers YMO).

Penderecki--oh shit. This guy started weird then got normal (what the hell?) If you can find Jutrznia/Utrenya it should be well worth your time. They used part of this in the soundtrack to The Shining. Crushes the most extreme noise acts you can think of like wet leaves under the boot. I don't think I can listen to this one very often, but great to have in your collection.

Heh, I pulled The Shining out for a rewatching yesterday. Apparently it's also got Ligeti and Bartok on it, so I'll be paying closer attention to the soundtrack. Penderecki is very intense! Definitely brings the noise.

I didn't know there was a 'complete' collection, do you think its worth it?

I knew it would probably end up being only worth it for First Utterance, but yeah. It is only 2 discs, apparently remastered. It sounds crystal clear. It also has some First Utterance era tracks on the end of disc 1 (from the Diana single, which sounds a little different from the original, + 2 new ones there and an unreleased track - all good). Disc 2 is a curiosity only, I suppose. Not exactly what a person would want after enjoying the debut... But not terrible as far as sunny pop goes.

Post by **Icarus** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:34 am

There's very little that gets my interest being released nowadays, so I'm revisiting old favourites. In the current playlist:
Faithless - Sunday 8PM, Reverence, Outrospective, Reperspective (Outrospective Remixes), Forever Faithless
The Prodigy - Experience, Music For The Jilted Generation
Leftfield - Leftism, Rhythm And Stealth
... and virtually every Godskitchen compilation out - Life, Summer Trance, Journeys, Digital, Worldwide, Direct, Classics - plus assorted trance and chillout singles. (I think I had some Jamiroquai going earlier...)

FatCobra · Post by **FatCobra** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:11 am

I've recently been in the mood for some techno and electronica

ATB - Movin' Melodies
Future Sound of London - Accelerator
Godskitchen - Life Disc 2
John Digweed - MMII
George Acosta - Next Level

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:27 am

Boredoms - Pop Tatari
Mudhoney - My Brother The Cow

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 5:06 am

sjewkestheloon wrote:
I'd noticed you had ACID MOTHERS TEMPLE listed on your label site. Did you release any of their material? I've read somewhere that they limited a lot of their stuff to only 100 copies etc and where you involved in this? A fascinating band/collective with an intimidating catalogue.

I've put out a couple releases with Kawabata but not AMT. I've seen AMT play live a couple times and they can be great, but here's the big caveat:

Yes. they have a gazillion albums, many of which are highly collectable. Are they all good? No. I say this as a fan of Kawabata and the scene he's coming from, but the truth is, the man produces way too much material with not much care put into it. I think there are a few select albums that are probably the best ones to hear, and a whole bunch I haven't heard at all. I've definitely heard a lot of throw away albums.

The ones I'd recommend would be the two on Eclipse (La Novia and In C), the first two on PSF (they may have been reissued elsewhere) and 3 CD overview 'do whatever you want, don't do whatever you don't want'. Armed with these, you'll have a pretty good idea whether you want to dig deeper or not. Personally I'd say to take the opportunity while picking up the two PSF releases to also grab Tokyo Flashback 1, 2 or 3 for a hint of how great the Japanese psych scene can be (these are legendary comps by the way). My issue is that I do not think AMT lives up to the hype nor has the rigor of the other bands in the same scene.

And yeah i'd rather listen to this than Live Dead, but only just. The Dead rock, assuming you are refering to this dead and i'm not totally misunderstanding you.

Yeah I was speaking of the grateful dead. I'm not a dead head, but you listen to enough of the live tapes from the right period and they did indeed have the power. I just wish they could have gone a bit farther out.

Rob wrote:
Yeah, I just now got in the mood to hear all of the recommended krautrock albums I had been missing and this is probably my favorite.

Let me know if you have any interest in seeing a 'recommended' list of top krautrock albums (like a top 50 or something). I made a huge internet list way back in the day right after Julian Cope wrote that book 'Krautrock Sampler', ammending and adding a number of titles that weren't available to him when he wrote the book. I doubt I have the list anymore, but a rundown on the real must-haves would be easy.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 6:27 am

CMoon wrote: Let me know if you have any interest in seeing a 'recommended' list of top krautrock albums (like a top 50 or something). I made a huge internet list way back in the day right after Julian Cope wrote that book 'Krautrock Sampler', ammending and adding a number of titles that weren't available to him when he wrote the book. I doubt I have the list anymore, but a rundown on the real must-haves would be easy.

If you could excise the psych-rock, I'd love to see some recommendations. Yeti and the like do nothing for me, sad to say.

sjewkestheloon · Post by **sjewkestheloon** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:39 am

Rob wrote:
CMoon wrote: Let me know if you have any interest in seeing a 'recommended' list of top krautrock albums (like a top 50 or something). I made a huge internet list way back in the day right after Julian Cope wrote that book 'Krautrock Sampler', ammending and adding a number of titles that weren't available to him when he wrote the book. I doubt I have the list anymore, but a rundown on the real must-haves would be easy.
If you could excise the psych-rock, I'd love to see some recommendations. Yeti and the like do nothing for me, sad to say.

Well you could do two and include the psych stuff for myself too

I'd love to know what Neu and Amon Dull stuff is worthwhile as i have no idea and i know full well that some of those records are gonna be a bagashit. I also need to get mroe faust

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:14 pm

sjewkestheloon wrote:Amon Dull

hehehe, my thoughts exactly.

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:58 pm

Pity, krautrock excels far more in the psych arena than the electronica arena, though maybe I can make a small list with discriptors because I do know what your talking about, the problem is I love Yeti, so your making this difficult for me.

Edit: Typed up something quick
www.lastvisibledog.com/krautprimer.doc

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:51 am

Discordance Axis - The Inalienable Dreamless

On a side note, whats with all the tight pants screamo kids playing death metal nowadays? It's like the weird glut of wacky pseudo-grind bands that all those kids love (Number 12 looks like you, Daughters etc) turned into a glut of All Shall Perish knock offs complete with stupid so clever it's cool song titles. For instance, I heard this band Bring me the Horizon on a Terrorizer sampler and really liked the song. Then I saw their picture and the song titles for the album ('off the heezay'? Give me a fucking break.) and I immediately thought of the old robot expression "Does not compute".

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:20 pm

It's simply metal by numbers

Nemo · Post by **Nemo** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:22 pm

"12:5" - Pain of Salvation
"Open Sky" - Iona
"Unsung EP" - The Chariot
"Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex Vol. 3" - Yoko Kanno
"Reminiscence" - Lunascape
"Breathe" - Blue Stone

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:06 pm

CMoon wrote: Edit: Typed up something quick
www.lastvisibledog.com/krautprimer.doc

My comp. can't read it.

On a side note, whats with all the tight pants screamo kids playing death metal nowadays? It's like the weird glut of wacky pseudo-grind bands that all those kids love (Number 12 looks like you, Daughters etc) turned into a glut of All Shall Perish knock offs complete with stupid so clever it's cool song titles. For instance, I heard this band Bring me the Horizon on a Terrorizer sampler and really liked the song. Then I saw their picture and the song titles for the album ('off the heezay'? Give me a fucking break.) and I immediately thought of the old robot expression "Does not compute".

Metal and rock are not in a good place this decade. The good thing about song titles like that is that they can serve as one of many red flags. As can band names and album covers. It's almost a science.

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:18 pm

Rob wrote:
CMoon wrote: Edit: Typed up something quick
www.lastvisibledog.com/krautprimer.doc
My comp. can't read it.

Turned it into an HTML file:

http://www.lastvisibledog.com/krautprimer.htm

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:50 am

CMoon wrote: Turned it into an HTML file:

http://www.lastvisibledog.com/krautprimer.htm

Just read it over, thanks for that. Looks like I'll be going for more of the same (1st Harmonia and Zeit for sure). I like the absence of over-excitement for everything. I swear some people have no standards.

sjewkestheloon · Post by **sjewkestheloon** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:11 pm

[quote="Rob"][quote="CMoon"]
Turned it into an HTML file:

May take me a while but cheers

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:58 pm

Hmm, just recently picked up Windir's 1184 on a lark and while my first take on it was 'so what, more borknagard, who cares?', the more I listened to it, the more I found myself really enjoying it. I find myself listening to it quite a bit now and it ranking up there with some of my favorite black metal.

Anywone else heard these guys? Thoughts?

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:10 am

Dün - Eros -- I think I'll be digging up prog for at least 3 months because of the song "Arrakis" alone.
Pierrot Lunaire - Gudrun -- OK, I renounce all other music.

Debussy - Preludes vol. 1 / 12 Etudes
Koenji Hyakkei - Thousand Sights of...

seattlexc · Post by **seattlexc** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:31 am

Malajube "Trompe-l'oeil".

French Canadian band, good stuff

Klatrymadon · Post by **Klatrymadon** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:36 pm

Discordance Axis - The Inalienable Dreamless

Best grind album ever? I think so.

Well, at least of the more modern crop. I still pine for dirty Ripcord/ND type stuff, too...

sjewkestheloon · Post by **sjewkestheloon** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:14 pm

Anyone interested in Grindcore should check out a Wigan band called MechaGodzilla. Saw them do a quality show the other night. It was hectic.

Currently listening to Stray Dog Cafe's new single which is ace.

Also everything Miles Davis and Gil Evans. Lush.

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:59 pm

Downloaded a torrent with almost every Melvins album. Needless to say I'm going to be busy for a while.