Lightening Force - 10/10
Twinkle Tale - 9/10
Thunder Force 3 - 9/10
Thunder Force 2 - 8/10
Forgotten Worlds - 7/10
Bio Hazard Battle - 7/10
Phelios - 7/10
Gleylancer - 7/10
Eliminate Down - 6/10
MUSHA - 6/10
Elemental Master - 6/10
Battlemania 2 - 6/10
Sol-Deace - 5/10
Air Buster - 5/10
Raiden Trad - 5/10
Wings of Wor - 5/10
Task Force Harrier Ex - 5/10
Verytex - 5/10
Whip Rush - 5/10
Sagaia - 4/10
Gaiares - 4/10
Undead Line - 4/10
Grindstormer - 4/10
Master of Weapon - 4/10
Trouble Shooter - 4/10
Vapor Trail - 4/10
Curse - 4/10
Arrow Flash - 3/10
Steel Empire - 3/10
Fire Shark - 3/10
Truxton - 3/10
Twin Cobra - 3/10
Magic Girl - 3/10
Darwin 4081 - 3/10
Insector X - 2/10
Crossfire - 2/10
Bioship Paladin - 1/10
Divine Sealing - 1/10
So much junk.
WTF, Fire Shark, Truxton, and Twin Cobra that low!
Undead Line a 4?!
MUSHA a 6?
Gaiares a 4?
Master of Weapon is 4, it should be a fucking 1!
Your list is bulla man, seriously.
Turrican wrote:
Fighter17 wrote:GreyLancer is the most fucking easy shmup I've ever played. My second time playing it on a emulator I got to the final boss of the game.
This game is so not worth the money, seriously.
YES!!! Please Fighter17, spread the word across the whole net!! This game is too easy, not worth the price!!!
(as a matter of fact, I need to grab one, so if this whole community could be convinced of this, the price out there might lower...)
Rob is like the elder Cato of Shmups Forum. An embittered, old contrarian prone to hyperbole and intense prejudice against anything not Takumi or Psikyo. Don't listen to him.
Anyway, my Megadrive top picks:
- Thunder Force IV
- Twinkle Tale
- Eliminate Down
- Same! Same! Same! (Fire Shark)
- Steel Empire
Also great: Musha Aleste, V-V, Battlemania Daiginjou, Verytex, Steel Empire
MD has lots of great shooters. The great-to-crappy great ratio seems much better than on PC-Engine.
It's funny how one persons idea of a 'good' shooter differs so wildly from the next person. Personally I think MD Ultimate Tiger is incredible, as someone earlier in this thread said, 'it thinks'. However, and I realise I'm in the minority here, I think VV/Grindstormer is the greatest shooter of its generation. Manic, individual stage practice and tough as hell. Way ahead of its time imho.
Other than that, I agree quite a bit with what Fighter17 says above - Toaplan games are pretty good. Simple, but good. They have their own charm.
The only thing I can say for Master of Weapon is that it predicted 9/11, so if it were a seer instead of a video game, maybe it would get a passing score. Actually, it's been a long time since I tried it in MAME and at the time I wasn't in shmups.
I doubt we would have GigaWings or Mars Matrix without Toaplan. Twin Cobra is no less classic than Raiden. (I think this will be clear to those who know arcade or arcade-perfect versions of both.)
So what's the argument on the other side?
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It's very fun, though. Initially I thought that Gleylancer was the better-looking, perhaps more interesting game, but the novelty of the firing system wore off very quickly (I go with auto setting every time now), and some of the levels basically suck.
ED is pretty awesome (with initials like that, how could I refuse)! Lots happening. I think I barely made it out of the asteroid field last time I played it, though.
ED (8)) turns into a lame memorizer with flickering bullets at the end. It's one of those games where it's a major setback when you lose the fully powered ship, since how many power-up icons does it take to actually power-up? Stupid game design.
As for the other scores, I don't agree with too many of them, but the Thunder Force games sound pretty much right on. TF rocks! 7 out of 10 sounds about right to me with Forgotten Worlds too. It's definitely toned down a bit compared to the arcade, though still pretty good.
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You need a dictionary. Perversion is simply a deviant sexual practice. There are hundreds of practices which are perfectly legal and still considered perverted. Sex with a plant is chief amonst them.
As for megadrive shooters... I'm hugely fond of Thunderforce III and IV as well as Gaires, MUSHA, Gleylancer, Truxton, Twin Hawk and Fire Shark. Toaplan rules!
llabnip - DaveB
Once more the light shines brightly in sector 2814.
Dale wrote:What's so perverted I just said it would be interesting I'm no perv I don't fantasize about little girls or boys(Which is how perversion is defined).
I'm afraid I'm a walking counterexample to your definition: I'm completely perverted but (fortunately) have no interest in children.
Until you play Silpheed on Sega CD, you haven't lived!
Hmmm. I've played Silpheed for the Sega CD LONG ago and still feel like I haven't lived. Maybe because I've never gotten laid...
Heresy or not, I'd much rather play Silpheed for the PS2 than Gyruss--err, Siipheed for the Sega CD.
As for best Mega Drive shooters, I have a very soft spot for Gynoug for being my very first shooter. This game desperately needs a sequel with 2-D hand drawn graphics.
GateofThunderforceIII wrote:Hmmm. I've played Silpheed for the Sega CD LONG ago and still feel like I haven't lived. Maybe because I've never gotten laid...
Heresy or not, I'd much rather play Silpheed for the PS2 than Gyruss--err, Siipheed for the Sega CD.
I was just being silly. I played it for the first time today and thought it was an OK Gyruss update.
Admittedly, I was blown away by Silpheed CD when it first came out, but by the intro more than anything. Looking back, I was being a silly boy. I love how they recreated the old intro in the PS2 sequel.
More MegaDrive shooting greatness: MUSHA, Battlemania 2, Raiden. I'm stumped as to why Elemental Master does not do anything for me.
