Mushihimesama or DoDonPachi Dai Ou Jou ?

PPA · Post by **PPA** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:53 am

I would like to buy one of those games for my ps2....but which one?

Ive never played Mushi, but i really enjoy DoDonPachi on MAME....does mushi and daoujou play similar?

Also, if it can be any help, i dont really like ESP Ra.De..........

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:39 am

Get Mushi.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:03 am

DOJ is classic and you like DDP, so easy choice. That other game is highly skippable unless you really like purple.

landshark · Post by **landshark** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:16 am

They are both good, but I like DOJ better, if nothing else then for psycho boss mode.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:24 am

DOJ got the better port (including replays, a nice practice mode, etc.), but Mushi, while its port quality is only "okay," got a "Best" release which can be had for about half the price.

Both are good games, similar in some ways but different in others: both have variations on the "chaining" mechanic, and can offer quite a challenge, but the presentation and atmosphere are completely different.

I like both: imo you'll have fun with either.

Shalashaska · Post by **Shalashaska** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:22 am

DOJ gets my vote as well. I'm one of those players that loves getting a beatdown though.

I have to admit that I didn't really care for Mushi too much at first but it really grew on me. Both are great but the quality of DOJ's port is just so much better.

With Mushi's Best release though, I'd say save a little bit longer if you have to and get both.

PPA · Post by **PPA** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:37 am

Rob wrote:DOJ is classic and you like DDP, so easy choice. That other game is highly skippable unless you really like purple.

lol

actually i REALLY like purple, i even wear purple shirts!

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:23 am

DOJ is the better game, and the port is as good as it gets. The Mushihime port unfortunately has stupid filtering/blur.

LUNardei · Post by **LUNardei** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:28 am

Rob wrote:DOJ is classic and you like DDP, so easy choice. That other game is highly skippable unless you really like purple.

Uhm, no. Mushi reinvented the chain, is technical, deep, beautiful in any way. To me. And we must add that with 3 modes and a more "open" scoring system this game is better for starters.

However, I must admit that I really enjoy purple, you got me

Dandy J · Post by **Dandy J** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 11:03 am

DOJ has a better port, better bullet patterns, and even though I don't care for chaining systems overall I think it has the better scoring system.

It also has HYPERS.

Daigohji · Post by **Daigohji** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 11:40 am

They're both great. If you like pain, get DOJ. If you want a more accessible game, get Mushi. Mushi Original is good for casual play, and there are more challenging modes if you feel like delving deeper. The two modes in DOJ consist of Crazy Hard and WTF I'm Dead Already?

If you really can't decide between them now, but plan to get both eventually, I'd say to buy DOJ first. Mushi has recently been re-released at budget, so it should be easily available for a while. DOJ on the other hand has been out for a long time at full price and doesn't look like it's getting a budget re-release, so you might want to grab that before the pressing sells out.

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:04 pm

For some reason I really like DOJ. It is an absolutely punishing game that pretty much tells you from the opening level that you aren't good enough. Yes, that sort of challenge is really welcome for some reason--in part I suppose because the execution is so damn good.

Mushi I've never felt anything special for. Just another shooter from cave (obviously some disagree...)

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:35 pm

even tho im currently having more fun with mushi than i ever did with DOJ it still wins if you can only play PS2.

the mushi port is terrible, i didnt even like the game untill i got the PCB...

the DOJ port is brilliant AND you get a superplay DVD to boot

al138 · Post by **al138** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:56 pm

While I like both, I must admit that I have a slight preference for DOJ. It is a much better port and is packed with extas (ESPgaluda got the same excellent treatment). The port of Mushi, while passable, seems rushed in comparison.

However, the most important reason I would pick DOJ is availability (to echo Daigohji's response). Its rather hard to find beyond Playasia.com, which is where I scored my copy. The port is around three years old, after all. I could see DOJ becoming a real collectors item in the near future, whereas Mushi is relatively easy to grab--provided that you don't mind a Best version. You can grab a copy of it for around $30, verses $60-$70 for DOJ.

Post by **system11** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:08 pm

DOJ is too much like fan service for the hardcore Cave fanboys. Yeah, I said it. The chaining is absolutely fascist, and the difficulty is too high on default. Mushi is a more rounded game, with optional smackdown mode in addition to two very different normal modes.

DOJ did get the better quality port though. They're about at opposite ends of the Cave spectrum in play style, it really does depend on what sort of player you are. If you want a brutally hard revision of existing DDP play, which will demand section memorisation and tactical use of bombs/hypers, DOJ is probably the one. Mushihimesama is a little more freeflow, in normal modes. Sure, there's a best route, but not sticking to it doesn't necessarily force death.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:11 pm

comedy ibara or espgaluda vote

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:55 pm

Dandy J wrote:DOJ...has HYPERS.

Fuck yes. Hypers are like your regular bullets but TWICE AS BIG.

Nice game to play for survival also. Can't compare it to Mushi but you should plan on trying it eventually

freddiebamboo · Post by **freddiebamboo** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:11 am

Bloodflowers summed it up best.

Mushi is good fun, DOJ is purely for the hardcore enthusiasts looking for punishment - which is a good thing if thats what you're after.

If you're quite new to cave then mushi is the obvious choice.

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:16 am

Yeah, only go DOJ if you're hardcore.

But, only go for Mushi if you already have ESPGALUDA -_^

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:15 am

BUY BOTH

Nuke · Post by **Nuke** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 6:44 am

Strider77 wrote:BUY BOTH

Quoted for truth, and I would get Mushi special edition for that little extra you can sell for teh megabucks in a few years (Soundtrack also reacomented if you take that reasoning to the extreme)

PPA · Post by **PPA** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:11 am

Strider77 wrote:BUY BOTH

after reading al your info i think ill get both for sure!