Mushihimesama PCB - ultra codes and score reset procedure?

Post by **Dave_K.** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:06 am

I've got the PCB (finally) and can't seem to do squat with either resetting the previous high scores, or getting my new highscores to save under the "all time" tables when it shows that I've beaten them. After power down all my scores are gone, the previous highscores remain.

After reading 3 other threads on the forum here asking the same question, it seems nobody has been able to enable high score saving, unless your board came with it magically working.

zakk wrote:I believe it is: up,left,b,right,a,down,down,a,a,b

It should save across powerups.

To disable it: up, left,b,right,a,up,up,a,a,b

My board came with Ultra enabled, and I understand the highscore bug. My Maniac high score beat the last place all time ultra score, and it did not copy over after powerdown. Alternatively, I can not get the "disable ultra" code mentioned above to work after inserting a coin, tried it like 20 times, and guess this is just wrong.

I also tried removing the battery, and resetting the options to default, and nothing seems to erase the highscores (they are not the default ones). The only thing the battery does is loose the date/clock info. And there are no options to enable/disable or initialize the highscores like in Ibara.

Well since I can't reset the scores, and can't save my scores, and nobody else has been able to confirm the codes or process for resetting scores, I guess I'm screwed?

puyo2345 · Post by **puyo2345** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:36 am

Can you scan game manual ?

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:43 am

Did you go into the Mushi test mode? There is a test button on the board you have to press and hold. This should lead you to a score saving option on the menu. Try going there. It's very odd that your scores are not saving when you beat the scores already saved (are you beating the maniac mode scores or just the ultra mode scores?). Either the board is set to not save scores anymore, or your board is messed up and needs repair.

Post by **Dave_K.** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:13 am

puyo2345 wrote:Can you scan game manual ?

No scanner, but I can snap a pic, if anyone can read it.

twe wrote:Did you go into the Mushi test mode? There is a test button on the board you have to press and hold. This should lead you to a score saving option on the menu. Try going there. It's very odd that your scores are not saving when you beat the scores already saved (are you beating the maniac mode scores or just the ultra mode scores?). Either the board is set to not save scores anymore, or your board is messed up and needs repair.

Thanks twe, but its keeping the previous highscores in the eprom just fine, so I don't see how the board might be messed up. The 3v lithium battery tests fine. Maybe I have to get the #1 score in Maniac for it to transfer over to Ultra? Was that the bug? Anyway, the little button on the PCB is just the test switch, same if I hold the test switch on the cab. I tried using both methods to make sure there was no other hidden menu. Even tried hitting the little button while in the "backup data" and "memory check" sub-menu. Nada. No option to reset the scores or enable/disable save.

I need someone who has the PCB to confirm what the codes are to enable/disable Ultra mode first, as that is supposed to get around the ultra score bug. After that, then findout how to reset all the scores to default.

Post by **Dave_K.** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:29 am

Here is the settings sheet if anyone can read something in the Kanji about highscore reset.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:50 am

I see in the second picture #9 in the test menu is 'back up data'. It says you can manage the board's clock and 'memory backup' in this menu. What do you see when you enter that menu? I see you've been in that menu and can't find any option to deal with save data. But looking at everything else, I don't see any other option that would deal with save data. Weird!

thegreathopper · Post by **thegreathopper** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:52 pm

I have tried and never found a way to reset all time high scores on my Mushi pcb,

I believe to save high scores you have to play on default setup.

bay · Post by **bay** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:41 am

im having a similar problem with my espgaluda pcb, it wont save scores past a power down.

all the test menu stuff is in english, so that isn't a problem to figure out. however there is nothing i can find about data or whatnot saving.

any ideas? does the board not support it?

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:43 am

AFAIK no Cave board saved scores before Mushi, so that explains your Espgaluda board. All the SH3 boards save hi scores.

puyo2345 · Post by **puyo2345** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:54 am

I heard about this problem from japanise friend.

It is bug of first pressed PCB.
(This game have various bug except score bug)

You can fix from AMI(JAPAN) company.
But basically they didn't admit this problem(bug).

You have to pay(21000yen) to Fix it.
Fix = change to latest version

bay · Post by **bay** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:15 pm

puyo2345 wrote:I heard about this problem from japanise friend.

It is bug of first pressed PCB.
(This game have various bug except score bug)

You can fix from AMI(JAPAN) company.
But basically they didn't admit this problem(bug).

You have to pay(21000yen) to Fix it.
Fix = change to latest version

yet another good reason not to buy pcb boards right away?

can anyone confirm this "bug"?

do we have a board # that the "bug" has been fixed there forward?

Post by **Dave_K.** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:28 am

Thanks puyo2345. The score bug is annoying but has a workaround if someone could just find out what the real "code" is to turn off Ultra. As for not being able to reset the all time highscore tables, that is not a bug, there is simply no option to do this. I guess thats what I'm most shocked about.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:34 am

I just got my mushi kit in the mail. It also had Ultra mode enabled,
and the Maniac and Ultra scoreboards shared most of the same scores. Ultra had a high of 180 mil, maniac's high was 98 mil, but the second place was 120 mil and then third place was 103 mil!! I played one run in Maniac and got 105 mil. This showed up on the maniac ranking in the NUMBER ONE slot until I powered down, when I powered up again it was saved as the NUMBER ONE score on Ultra, it was not on the Maniac ranking anymore, and the 180 mil high score on Ultra is completely gone. Very weird.

I too tried that disable ultra mode score and it didn't work. Where are you supposed to do it? I'm playing on all defaults with free play on.

Post by **Dave_K.** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:19 am

Hmm, I'm guessing you have to get #1 on Maniac for it to roll over to Ultra. Unfortunally I can't get anywhere close to the 155M on mine (which is showing the same #1 score on Ultra).

The code is supposed to work after inserting a coin, and before hitting start. I just tried a few more times right now, trying to get it down quicker. No dice.

Tell me if you figure out how to reset the board and wipe out all the high scores.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:58 am

Yeah, I just played another Maniac mode credit and got 203 mil, and it saved in the Ultra #1 slot again, replacing the previous 105 mil score I had there. So at least my top Maniac score will always be saved in the Ultra #1 slot. I'll let you know if I get the Ultra disable code to work. I don't see any way to wipe out the saved high scores though...

LUNardei · Post by **LUNardei** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:58 pm

Weird stuff indeed. I'm still thinking of buy it one day, but this is scary. Anyway, I've seen other boards work very well, so it's all about luck, I guess

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:23 am

Bad news. I got to 4th place on my board's Original Ranking with 31 mil:

But after I turned the board off and then on again, it was gone! Damn. It appears that this Ultra mode glitch prevents you from saving ANY scores, even original mode ones.

Wish I could find a way to get rid of Ultra mode!

Post by **Dave_K.** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:37 pm

twe wrote:It appears that this Ultra mode glitch prevents you from saving ANY scores, even original mode ones. Wish I could find a way to get rid of Ultra mode!

I do wonder if it will hold if you get the #1 original spot. I have a fear there was only an enable ultra code, as I don't see why they'd make a disable code if they weren't aware of any bugs. Its a nice little secret to unlock for arcade owners. I am certainly shocked there is no reset procedure to clear scores and put everything back to as the PCB was shipped (factory settings without ultra).

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:22 pm

I'm wondering how the heck to get to the SERVICE mode of the board. I go into the TEST mode, and to the "input" test. In that menu it has a test for the SERVICE button, and I press the service button on my supergun and it passes the test. But no matter where I press (and/or hold) the SERVICE button, I cannot enter service mode. It must be there as it's in the input test. I have a feeling this is the last hope to reset scores or get rid of Ultra mode. Any ideas?

I really don't think it matters where you get the hi score in original mode, none of them would save. The only reason the top maniac score saves over is because of the glitch that copies it to the top Ultra mode slot. The glitch doesn't apply to Original mode scores afaik. Anyway, I'll try and get the top Original mode score and see what happens (just need to die one less time on a run!).

rtw · Post by **rtw** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:10 pm

I recently got hold of this PCB but must admit being slightly confused about what this is all about. Isn't Ultra always selectable ? When I coin up I get the following screen:

If I select ultra I get this screen:

Can someone please tell me what it says at the bottom of the second screen ?

twe, the SERVICE SWITCH is a button where the operator can insert a credit into the game without incrementing the coin meter.

My version is listed as 2004/10/12 Master Version.

rtw

LUNardei · Post by **LUNardei** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:07 pm

No worries, just select the option on the right and enjoy ULTRA mode

Anyway, it says something like: "This is gonna hurt you, do you really want to play it?". Twe will be more precise on the translation, if necessary

zakk · Post by **zakk** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:52 pm

rtw wrote:I recently got hold of this PCB but must admit being slightly confused about what this is all about. Isn't Ultra always selectable ?

On your board it is, because it's been enabled already. It was not enabled by default and a code was required to get the ultra choice to even show up. The chances of coming across a used PCB without it enabled are probably pretty slim at this point.

rtw · Post by **rtw** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:07 pm

zakk wrote:
rtw wrote:I recently got hold of this PCB but must admit being slightly confused about what this is all about. Isn't Ultra always selectable ?
On your board it is, because it's been enabled already. It was not enabled by default and a code was required to get the ultra choice to even show up. The chances of coming across a used PCB without it enabled are probably pretty slim at this point.

OK things are a bit clearer now. But does the disable code work ? I tried it a few times after inserting a coin but to no avail.

rtw

Post by **Dave_K.** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:33 pm

rtw wrote: OK things are a bit clearer now. But does the disable code work ? I tried it a few times after inserting a coin but to no avail.

Nobody has confirmed the code. Not even sure what source it came from (2ch?). I can't get it to work either, nor figure out how to reset the currently stored high scores.

zakk · Post by **zakk** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:29 am

I can't even remember where I got the disable code.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:12 am

enable code is shown on booklet with INH dvd. i don't believe a disable code exists (?).

rtw · Post by **rtw** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 2:38 pm

I have scanned the page in question, can anyone else tell me if there is any other pertinent information there ?

http://home.online.no/~an-tj/rtw/mushi_20.jpg

rtw

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:07 pm

RTW: the page says Ultra mode is not available initially. To unlock it you need to get 100 points then enter a code. The points are gained by clearing the game in Original or Maniac mode. Each time you 1CC the game in Original you get 1 point. Each time you 1CC the game in Maniac you get 2 points. Once 100 are reached, enter ULBRADDAAB at the title screen after inserting a credit. It does not say anything about being able to disable the code after it's entered (indeed, I doubt you can disable it).

Post by **Dave_K.** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:22 pm

Thanks for the translation twe. I guess I'd rather have the ultra mode enabled now with the bug, than have to try and 1cc the game that many times on Origina/Maniac myself to unlock it. Guess I'll live with writing down my scores like the other PCBs.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:32 pm

Yeah, that's pretty crazy you have to 1CC the game so many times. I hope it's not like this with Mushi Futari or I won't have Ultra mode enabled for like 2 years on that one! I don't mind the scores not saving because they give you a password when you get a hi score. You can then go to Cave's online mushi ranking page and enter your score there. Pretty cool to see it posted online in an "official" manner. The website is here for those that don't know:

http://wig.cave.co.jp/ranking2/index.html

My 31mil Original mode score is up there.