Capcom Classics Collection Vol 2 is out

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:05 pm

shinsage wrote:Since Cave made Progear, I doubt it would be included on any CCC, considering, you know, it's a collection of Capcom games.

Capcom own the distribution rights to Progear No Arashi. Legally, it is a Capcom game. Much in the same way Atlus own the rights to ESPRa.De. and Guwange.

Not to mention, the game is already emulated.

By the same token, it's entirely possible that they could choose to put Giga Wing or Mars Matrix in one of these collections.

I'm just saying... it's a possibility... and would certainly be ironic if the US got a homeport of a Cave title before Japan.

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:17 pm

Fuck a tate mode

this has black tiger

is this out for xbox yet?

PPA · Post by **PPA** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:42 pm

my god Black TIger!!!

I want this noW!

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:55 pm

Kiken wrote:The local EB said they would have it on Tuesday.. they didn't. Apparently, when a low budget release like this occurs and they receive no preorders, a store will receive zero copies of the game. How brilliant.

Of course they received no pre-orders... the game wasn't in their computer. It's on EBGames.com, but the game wasn't in the store computer for putting reserves on it. So basically, you couldn't reserve it.

I know. I tried.

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:16 pm

Yeah, there are still plenty of great games that deserve a volume 3, most notably:

battle circuit
armored warriors / powered gear
red earth
strider 2 (psx version might be compared to the psx version of G Darius)
warriors of fate
carrier airwing
u.n. squadron (copywrite issues?)

And of course, if develpers don't matter:
dimahoo
progear
19xx

All of these games are ones that either do not have ports or the ports are very distant from arcade perfect.

I'm sure there are plenty of other games that could use re-release as well, but each ot these really needs the rerelease. That said, there probably won't be a third capcom set...

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:16 pm

I'd hunt your local Best Buy if I were you; they seem to have the most luck with CCC2 copies. I got the only copy at a Gamecrazy by pre-ordering.

It's unfortunate though, that at least for ST practice mode, the music sometimes un-syncs itself and the screen occasionally flashes white.

Post by **Icarus** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:59 pm

CMoon wrote:And of course, if develpers don't matter:
dimahoo
progear
19xx

I'd be happy with just a three-pack of those games. The likelihood of such a pack ever appearing is about the same as me winning the jackpot on the National Lottery, however.

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:18 am

Icarus wrote:
CMoon wrote:And of course, if develpers don't matter:
dimahoo
progear
19xx
I'd be happy with just a three-pack of those games. The likelihood of such a pack ever appearing is about the same as me winning the jackpot on the National Lottery, however.

Three Wonders/Wonder 3 in a US collection took me by surprise. Wasn't that developed by Toaplan? It's probably still unlikely that those games would be in a US collection, but Three Wonders was an unlikely canidate and it ended up in two US collections (one for PSP and one for PS2).

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:41 am

CMoon wrote:Yeah, there are still plenty of great games that deserve a volume 3, most notably:

battle circuit
armored warriors / powered gear
red earth
strider 2 (psx version might be compared to the psx version of G Darius)
warriors of fate
carrier airwing
u.n. squadron (copywrite issues?)

And of course, if develpers don't matter:
dimahoo
progear
19xx

All of these games are ones that either do not have ports or the ports are very distant from arcade perfect.

I'm sure there are plenty of other games that could use re-release as well, but each ot these really needs the rerelease. That said, there probably won't be a third capcom set...

Don't for get Dungeons & Dragons: Tower of Doom, Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow Over Mystara, The first two "vs" games, the Darkstalkers series, 1944, and Saturday Night Slam Masters. They've got plenty to fill a third collection. The question is, will they bother?

Anyway, I finally tracked down a copy. I called every single store within driving distance that carried games. Some never got the game, a few were sold out, one said they weren't carrying it anymore (wtf?). But one... ONE store, had copies. A Walmart. No one else had it (including Best Buy), and Walmart only had the PS2 version. None of the others who had gotten the game received the XBox version. So something's screwy with this game's release.

Also, dig this. I was talking with a friend of mine who happens to be the AM at a Gamestop. The reason CCC2 couldn't be reserved, is that EB/Gamespot doesn't take reserves on budget titles, unless it's a big, big name. So, no one was able to reserve it. Here's the kicker...

Since there were no reserves, there's a good chance that at most, a store would get only one or two copies of it... if they got it all. Yes, there could very well be EBs/Gamestops that never even get this game because of their own retarded reserve policy. Isn't that something?

So, I got to spend a small bit of time with it. Played some The King of Dragons, and actually managed to beat Street Fighter. With SF's stuff unlocked, I don't plan on playing that grotesquely frustrating game ever again.

shinsage · Post by **shinsage** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:12 am

Ganelon wrote: It's unfortunate though, that at least for ST practice mode, the music sometimes un-syncs itself and the screen occasionally flashes white.

I've had some probs with ST too; during the character select, music only comes out of the left speaker and during gameplay the screen sometimes breaks.
I'm considering taking my copy back...

I think it's funny that in Captain Commando, bodies can be sliced and flesh melted, but they still changed the bad guy's name from Genocide to Scumocide. Still a great game, even if the graphics are lacking it definitely makes up in style.

Considering guys aren't buying this collection since the 3 vert shmups don't have tate, I'd have to say they're missing out. This collection's all about the beat 'em ups and benjamins.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:25 am

CMoon wrote: Most of the reasons to own this collection are games like Black Tiger and Magic Sword (that have never been ported before).

FYI Magic sword was ported to the SNES.

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:35 am

twe wrote:
CMoon wrote: Most of the reasons to own this collection are games like Black Tiger and Magic Sword (that have never been ported before).
FYI Magic sword was ported to the SNES.

And Black Tiger was ported to C64.

Shocky · Post by **Shocky** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:54 am

BrianC wrote:
And Black Tiger was ported to C64.

And Amiga. I've never played the original so don't know how it compares, but at least it looks and sounds nice.

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:45 pm

The Coop wrote: Don't for get Dungeons & Dragons: Tower of Doom, Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow Over Mystara, The first two "vs" games, the Darkstalkers series, ...(snip)

I'm not, but I suspect the title Dungeons and Dragons is still owned by TSR (or whoeveer), so this is the same problem behind AvP, Punisher, all the versus games (which you mention), etc. The issue is, capcom did a lot of games which used copywritten material, and when their contract expired, the games went into limbo.

I guess in my mind a lot of these games have recent ports as well, some of which are arcade perfect or better. What I'd really like to see out are the games that either have never been ported or have ports which are far below the quality of the arcade. (hence my comments about black tiger and magic sword).

dial911 · Post by **dial911** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:22 pm

Target will have Capcom Classics Collection Volume 2 (PS2) priced at $9.87 this friday gentlemen.

Wang_MacTavish · Post by **Wang_MacTavish** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:19 pm

The Coop wrote:Don't for get Dungeons & Dragons: Tower of Doom, Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow Over Mystara, The first two "vs" games, the Darkstalkers series, 1944, and Saturday Night Slam Masters. They've got plenty to fill a third collection. The question is, will they bother?

There's already a Darkstalkers collection out for PS2 in Japan (budget - priced now too, no less!): http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-40- ... -1mhw.html

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:23 pm

Wang_MacTavish wrote:
The Coop wrote:Don't for get Dungeons & Dragons: Tower of Doom, Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow Over Mystara, The first two "vs" games, the Darkstalkers series, 1944, and Saturday Night Slam Masters. They've got plenty to fill a third collection. The question is, will they bother?
There's already a Darkstalkers collection out for PS2 in Japan (budget - priced now too, no less!): http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-40- ... -1mhw.html

Unfortunately, I need an import, or a modded, PS2 for that.

Post by **Icarus** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:28 pm

The Coop wrote:Unfortunately, I need an import, or a modded, PS2 for that.

Someone's selling a J-PS2 in Trading, Play-Asia has them for £90, and there's a crapload of them on YAJ.

So why haven't you got one yet? ^_-

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:52 pm

Icarus wrote:
The Coop wrote:Unfortunately, I need an import, or a modded, PS2 for that.
Someone's selling a J-PS2 in Trading, Play-Asia has them for £90, and there's a crapload of them on YAJ.

So why haven't you got one yet? ^_-

The lack of $150-plus dollars, and no clue how to hell to read a Japanese auction page.

DreamerNL · Post by **DreamerNL** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:24 am

For those of you who have the capcom collection vol2, are the cps1 ports arcade perfect? No graphic, music glitches?

shinsage · Post by **shinsage** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:57 pm

DreamerNL wrote:For those of you who have the capcom collection vol2, are the cps1 ports arcade perfect? No graphic, music glitches?

So far, yeah, no probs with the CPS-1 games. Just ST with me.

Danny · Post by **Danny** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:27 pm

twe wrote:
CMoon wrote: Most of the reasons to own this collection are games like Black Tiger and Magic Sword (that have never been ported before).
FYI Magic sword was ported to the SNES.

And the Atrai ST, I have both ports and the Atrai ST one is arcade perfect!

(the snes one does not have 2 player mode!)

p.s: MS was proberbly also ported to the Amiga as well but do not qoute me on that!...

Dale · Post by **Dale** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:16 pm

dial911 wrote:Target will have Capcom Classics Collection Volume 2 (PS2) priced at $9.87 this friday gentlemen.

Do you mean $19.87 or is it really $9.87? If it is that's awesome.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:27 am

Dale wrote:
dial911 wrote:Target will have Capcom Classics Collection Volume 2 (PS2) priced at $9.87 this friday gentlemen.
Do you mean $19.87 or is it really $9.87? If it is that's awesome.

Yeah, it's really cheap at Target this week. I wish I cared, but I just can't get myself excited about this collection.

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:37 am

Every now and then, people have to eat their own words. Now the best of us don't have to do it that often, but, well, it seems I've been served a big plate of crow:

Varth is a much better game than I remember it. It will never be a top-tier game, but it is a good game. A downright solid game actually. And subsequently, I am now pissed about the tate issue. It is OK on a big screen, but that's about it. I can only hope that there ends up being a gameshark code that lets us play it in tate. I doubt there is any other port of it...

...am I mistaken about the gun frontier references in this???!!!

I'm not going to cry over 1941 (these games have never been my cup-o-tea, don't ask me why...), but Last Stand, while not great, shows off some really amazing Toaplan graphics. Yes, toaplan. There is no secret this is a toaplan game, unfortunately beyond the graphics I find the gameplay pretty wonky.

Eco Fighters is another weird one. Even using the analog stick for aiming I found this game frustrating (as I have before). The great thing here are the graphics though. This is some of Capcom's better 2D graphics and really showcases their style.

The Three Wonders shooter isn't half bad. Not exceptional in anyway, but far better than any of the other 'three wonders'

Throw in an arcade perfect port of strider, magic sword, captain comando, black tiger, etc. and you have one hell of a great set here. Presentation feels like a lot more care went into this than the first one, plus there are tons of extras.

Despite the age and lateness of this set, I can feel the love comin' from this baby. Really, who needs a next-gen console?

llabnip · Post by **llabnip** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:40 am

CMoon wrote:Varth is a much better game than I remember it.

I'm glad you're digging it. Malc was one of the first proponents of this game some years ago - he convinced me to give it a chance and I really liked it after first giving it the thumbs down. Since I switched from emulation to actual consoles, I've been missing Varth quite a bit - it's nice to have a quality port. Missing TATE is a shame, but stretched up as far as it will go and putting the score/stats to the side makes it playable for me. I've gotten many hours out of this now.

CMoon wrote:I'm not going to cry over 1941 (these games have never been my cup-o-tea, don't ask me why...)

I love 1943 The Battle of Midway as I played the heck out of this machine back in school. I'm not fond 1941 so I haven't really played it much on the collection. It seems more hurt by lack of TATE than Varth (which is plenty playable streched on a normal TV). Still, I just don't like the narrow straights you need to navigate starting on the 2nd level. I'm still hoping 19XX will make it to a console someday. It's my fav in the series.

CMoon wrote:Eco Fighters is another weird one. Even using the analog stick for aiming I found this game frustrating (as I have before).

Switch to using the L2 and R2 shoulder butons for rotating the arm (you'll need to configure the buttons). Then it feels buttery smooth after a few games. It's my favorite game on the compilation and one of my all-time favorite shooters. The analog stick for rotation doesn't work very well - having the control on the shoulder buttons lets you move the arm so easily while you maintain fire (or hold the button down for power build-up). I've hardly spent any time with the platform games or brawlers on this set. I've stuck with Eco Fighters, Varth, Chariot and Side arms and am having a shooter-blast with those.

shinsage · Post by **shinsage** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:11 am

I bet a day doesn't go by that the Japanese kid who sent Capcom the idea for Eco Fighters thinks "Yeah, I'm the Ultimate Ecology idea guy, who's cool? Me, because my idea became a video game."

llabnip wrote: Switch to using the L2 and R2 shoulder butons for rotating the arm (you'll need to configure the buttons). Then it feels buttery smooth after a few games.

Yeah, I did the exact same thing like 5 seconds into the game. Still hard getting used to that mechanic of the game, but tons better than the original layout.
I've found many of the control figurations aren't suited to my taste, which is pretty odd since nearly all the time I never customize the controls. But hey, whatever.

PFG 9000 · Post by **PFG 9000** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:37 pm

dial911 wrote:Target will have Capcom Classics Collection Volume 2 (PS2) priced at $9.87 this friday gentlemen.

Not that it matters now, but the ad I looked at showed Volume 1 at that price, not Volume 2.

shadowkitty777 · Post by **shadowkitty777** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:29 pm

Dale wrote:
dial911 wrote:Target will have Capcom Classics Collection Volume 2 (PS2) priced at $9.87 this friday gentlemen.
Do you mean $19.87 or is it really $9.87? If it is that's awesome.

So I was at Target and picked it up for 19.99. Not a bad price though, this collection is totally worth it.

yojo! · Post by **yojo!** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:41 pm

DreamerNL wrote:For those of you who have the capcom collection vol2, are the cps1 ports arcade perfect? No graphic, music glitches?

I've noticed one major bug with "The King of Dragons". Play one game and once the game is over let it go back to attract mode; the attract sound will play over the gane's actual sound effect and music once you start a new game. It's very annoying. I have to reset the game everytimes to get rid of it.