Batsugun PCB vs Batsugun SE Saturn

Halloween Jack · Post by **Halloween Jack** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:23 pm

Gents,

Although I'm familiar with the differences between Batsugun standard and SE, I just wondered if I could ask for some views as to what this means in practice. I have the offer a standard Batsugun PCB for $175 and a $60 Saturn port which contains both Standard and SE versions.

Obviously I'd prefer to play the title on my Egret, but if SE is a million times better, there's little point in forking out for the extra....

What are your views?

Cheers

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:40 pm

Well it's got original and special editions, two soundtracks and, as I'm told, less slowdown.

ave · Post by **ave** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:09 pm

In my opinion, Batsugun Special Version is really a million times better than the original PCB Version. Its a classic though.

If I were in your situation, I would buy both. Not just that you have a complete Batsugun collection then, you also bought both a classic toaplan shooter and a maniac cave-like shoot em up.

The new stuff in SE is:
- 4 Loops instead of 1
- easier (you can get hit once before you die, which is much less frustrating think)
- more places to score with tricks
- absolutely great sound though the classic versions OST is pretty good as well
- more pigs^^

SE > PCB
Its a great game anyway.

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:58 pm

Hi!

The PCB Batsugun Special (which i have on loan) is better than the Saturn Port.

But, its a trade off, because you can't have the board run both Normal and Special. You have to choose. Then settle with your choice.

All things considered.....I think you would be better off with the Saturn port.

I would insist on the board (for my purposes), but that's another matter.

jp · Post by jp » Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:17 am

Why is the PCB better? As far as I could tell the Saturn version had no slowdown and no sound problems what-so-ever, so... I'd like to know what the Saturn version is tripping up on.

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:04 am

jp wrote;

Why is the PCB better? As far as I could tell the Saturn version had no slowdown and no sound problems what-so-ever, so... I'd like to know what the Saturn version is tripping up on.

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had no slowdown

That's just the point. I welcome slowdown.

Halloween Jack · Post by **Halloween Jack** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:32 pm

Thanks for this information fellas - must admit it sounds as though SE offers a vastly improved game playing experience, and as I can't find an SE board, I'll probably go with the Saturn version.

Cheers

Halloween Jack

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:03 pm

Halloween Jack wrote:Thanks for this information fellas - must admit it sounds as though SE offers a vastly improved game playing experience, and as I can't find an SE board, I'll probably go with the Saturn version.

Cheers

Halloween Jack

The Batsugun PCB can be upgraded to Special Version via EPROM chip dump...would be wise to have two Batsugun PCBs: one original & the other, Special version on a Japanese arcade cabinet setup...

Of course, that would only pertain to bona-fide original "Taoplan" produced Batsugun PCBs and not bootlegged versions of it floating there...I've got a "bootleg" Batsugun PCB myself but it needs to re-burned EPROM-wise to get it to working 100% again. ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~!

CFO · Post by **CFO** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:39 am

DEL wrote:Hi!

The PCB Batsugun Special (which i have on loan) is better than the Saturn Port.

But, its a trade off, because you can't have the board run both Normal and Special. You have to choose. Then settle with your choice.

All things considered.....I think you would be better off with the Saturn port.

I would insist on the board (for my purposes), but that's another matter.

You could also keep a seperate set of EPROMs and swap them when you choose

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:44 am

I know there's a million Batsugun thread floating about so I figured this would be best.

http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/98168590

Post by **Dave_K.** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:58 am

Halloween Jack wrote:Thanks for this information fellas - must admit it sounds as though SE offers a vastly improved game playing experience, and as I can't find an SE board, I'll probably go with the Saturn version

Hobbyroms.com will burn a Batsugun eprom for you for $10 shipped. Now you'd have both on PCB (just swap roms).

roker · Post by **roker** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:48 am

I'd go PCB over port

playing on a cab is always better IMO (my personal high scores are always greater on cab vs. mame/port)

burn the eprom

play in cab

problem solved

ninja edit: I just realized this thread is old

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:01 am

Crazy idea of the day: Build an adapter and connect your Saturn to your cab.

Post by **undamned** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:13 pm

Ceph wrote:Crazy idea of the day: Build an adapter and connect your Saturn to your cab.

Although, not spoken much (at all?) of, it should be no harder than any of the others (DC, PS2, etc.). It has native RGB out and you can easily hack the controllers for your joys/buttons.

-ud

Sonic R · Post by **Sonic R** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:43 pm

roker wrote:I'd go PCB over port

playing on a cab is always better IMO (my personal high scores are always greater on cab vs. mame/port)

burn the eprom

play in cab

problem solved

ninja edit: I just realized this thread is old

I am playing video games on console my whole life

I am just shit on bottom of everyone shoes

zakk · Post by **zakk** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:50 pm

I'm sorta in the middle of the 'saturn in a cab' thing. I gotta get the sync sorted out and I'm sorta kinda trying to build an ultimarc adapter for the controllers. Need to get back to that.

Halloween Jack · Post by **Halloween Jack** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:12 pm

Dave_K. wrote:Hobbyroms.com will burn a Batsugun eprom for you for $10 shipped. Now you'd have both on PCB (just swap roms).

Sounds a plan Dave_K, thanks. Well, I'm still getting a lot of gameplay out of my original Batsugun PCB, so no hurry for me. However, an SE upgrade for a fiver is an attractive prospect to say the least

Cheers,

Halloween Jack

roker · Post by **roker** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:33 pm

Sonic R wrote:
roker wrote:I'd go PCB over port

playing on a cab is always better IMO (my personal high scores are always greater on cab vs. mame/port)

burn the eprom

play in cab

problem solved

ninja edit: I just realized this thread is old
I am playing video games on console my whole life
I am just shit on bottom of everyone shoes

me too

there's a big difference

I play on cabs when I'm over a friend's place

at home it's the consoles

I'm not knocking the consoles, I'm just saying if you have the option of playing it on cab . . .

Sonic R · Post by **Sonic R** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:00 am

roker wrote: me too

there's a big difference

I play on cabs when I'm over a friend's place

at home it's the consoles

I'm not knocking the consoles, I'm just saying if you have the option of playing it on cab . . .

To many console are peice of shit and are vapor. Its like the console and the fellows who are play games on them are inferior peice of shit

I spend my whole life being shit on for being different and games was my escape it only hurts when game enthusist shit on me too.

roker · Post by **roker** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:19 am

Sonic R wrote:
roker wrote: me too

there's a big difference

I play on cabs when I'm over a friend's place

at home it's the consoles

I'm not knocking the consoles, I'm just saying if you have the option of playing it on cab . . .
To many console are peice of shit and are vapor. Its like the console and the fellows who are play games on them are inferior peice of shit I spend my whole life being shit on for being different and games was my escape it only hurts when game enthusist shit on me too.

if my dad read that post he'd say:

STOP BEING A SISSY FEELING SORRY FOR YOURSELF!

jk

anyway, like I said, I'm not knocking the consoles, but if the cab option is there, I'd go for it 100% of the time. I'm about to play some Ibara on my PS2 right now.

aesthetik · Post by **aesthetik** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:17 am

Just thought I'd throw this out there, you can actually piggyback the eproms and have a switch to flip back and forth between the regular and special versions of the PCB - I had mine done by a member a few years back and even though I don't play the regular version much, it is nice to have both on the same board.

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