I'm going to make an extremely wild guess that Nemo didn't have a 12,000 chain by the end of stage 3, as I basically wrote above. There are more scoring possibilities than Icarus' way, some of them slightly less bountiful.Icarus wrote: A 20k chain all the way to Guwangesama should be netting you at least 15mil.
I'm pushing 8mil after the stage3 boss, and that's with a chain of between 10,500 - 12,500.
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I only score a 900-1100 chain after Stage 1 and 8,000-8,500 after Stage 3 to give you an idea of my progression. I know I'm missing points in terms of potential coins and I'm not sure if there are some other scoring aspects I'm neglecting, but I suppose that comes with actually learning the game myself, as opposed to watching superplays for scoring hints, ehh.Icarus wrote:A 20k chain all the way to Guwangesama should be netting you at least 15mil.Rob wrote:It's a slower moving chain, so less points along the way. He's just good at not getting hit, and getting some quick jumps in the chain thanks to the health bonuses.
I'm pushing 8mil after the stage3 boss, and that's with a chain of between 10,500 - 12,500.
No need to explain, was just curious is all. I just find it unusual how you've only got 11mil by the last boss with a chain of 20k, when stage6 is full of scoreboosting oppurtunities. Especially with a big chain in tow.Nemo wrote:I only score a 900-1100 chain after Stage 1 and 8,000-8,500 after Stage 3 to give you an idea of my progression. I know I'm missing points in terms of potential coins and I'm not sure if there are some other scoring aspects I'm neglecting, but I suppose that comes with actually learning the game myself, as opposed to watching superplays for scoring hints, ehh.
Dunno. Starting your chain off with a big count is a good way to pick up missing points. I've always managed between 2,200 and 2,450 ending stage1. If you start slowly, then your scores increases slower as a result.Rob wrote:So if I clear stage 3 in this chain range and have 4.3 million points, where have I gone wrong? That's a lot of missing points.
I've only got 5 mil at the stage 3 boss w/ a chain of roughly 10,000.I'm pushing 8mil after the stage3 boss, and that's with a chain of between 10,500 - 12,500.
StoryOne more thing: Why are these 3 people killing everyone?
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That's not it. You really don't know what would account for a near halved score? It's a quiz and you're failing.Icarus wrote: Dunno. Starting your chain off with a big count is a good way to pick up missing points. I've always managed between 2,200 and 2,450 ending stage1.
Of course I know.Rob wrote:That's not it. You really don't know what would account for a near halved score? It's a quiz and you're failing.
Non-obvious scoring secrets to thread please.
That's a common bug with Guwange - it doesn't always list your highest chain.Rob wrote:Built the chain back up to nearly 10,000 on stage 5, but hey look 8,500.
It depends on how you play, really. A lot of players will find it easier to use Shikigami to chain with, but I've always had better success using it only when needed and blitzing around the screen with Shot. My mobility is a lot better that way, and in Guwange, the trick is to quickly move from one place to another to prepare for the next wave. If you use Shot a lot the primary technique is to bullet-stall to hold yor chain.Twiddle wrote:I thought the general rule was to not have ghostman run over people, but it seems I'm able to hold my chain better that way. Huh?
Halved. It was the listed chain. I guess it doesn't record the chain after the first lost life?Icarus wrote: What was your chain when it was first broken/halved?
This is my approach to the stages. Shoot all of the small guys unless I can use them to sweep away clumps of bullets, try to get the most out of larger targets.A lot of players will find it easier to use Shikigami to chain with, but I've always had better success using it only when needed and blitzing around the screen with Shot.
I think that's the case, yes. It only seems to record the chain before the first break or half, which is an unusual thing at least. Then again, it sort of makes sense in a "best first-time chain" sort of way.Rob wrote:Halved. It was the listed chain. I guess it doesn't record the chain after the first lost life?
Chaining records by stage-end:This is my approach to the stages. Shoot all of the small guys unless I can use them to sweep away clumps of bullets, try to get the most out of larger targets.
Approximate chain count:
1-2000
2-5000
3-10000
=4.3 million. There can't be too many possibilities here. I destroy most of the enemies as outlined above, do not milk bosses. Are there actual "scoring secrets" (not talking about anything listed in Mode 7's ST, since I've read it) or a basic strategy that I'm missing (like using the piercing cannon instead of the main shot in Mars Matrix)?
I'm hoping your "I'm not good at Cave games" claim was mere modesty.It's a fine beginner-intermediate guide, but I think it's lacking some basic and not so basic scoring info. It may seem obvious, but what values get multiplied and vice versa would be good to cover (bosses - no?). A little more detail to how milking the level 3 boss can amount to 20 million points, for clarity's sake.Icarus wrote: All techniques are covered in Mode7's ST.
Well, for starters, the coins you leech off of enemies with your shot (the small coins) are barely worth any points at all, probably like 0.01 or 0.001 points per coin times your multiplier. Normal coins seem to be worth around 1 point each. I don't think they're worth quite as much outside of the bosses, but I haven't really looked in to it.Rob wrote:It's a fine beginner-intermediate guide, but I think it's lacking some basic and not so basic scoring info. It may seem obvious, but what values get multiplied and vice versa would be good to cover (bosses - no?). A little more detail to how milking the level 3 boss can amount to 20 million points, for clarity's sake.Icarus wrote: All techniques are covered in Mode7's ST.
Sorry bro, I've been really busy this week with work and other activities. I really am not good at cave games scoring wise. I can usually pass the first loop, but my score is usually utter crap. Guwange is the worst for me, and EspRaDe a close second. Not being able to read my score sorta pisses me off to and makes me not want to play at all (though the art in this game is great).Davey wrote: Landshark, please don't tell me I'm carrying the team this week!
That is correct. Anything vacuumed to your character is worth shit and is only good for pumping the chain up. Falling air coins, and ground coins are worth your chain multiplied by a factor I haven't figured out yet, but coin size does play into it (small coins are worth a fraction, while the largest coins/coin stacks are worth a multiplied amount).MrMonkeyMan wrote:Well, for starters, the coins you leech off of enemies with your shot (the small coins) are barely worth any points at all, probably like 0.01 or 0.001 points per coin times your multiplier. Normal coins seem to be worth around 1 point each. I don't think they're worth quite as much outside of the bosses, but I haven't really looked in to it.
On the third boss you're destroying those orbs which rain large coins down on you which are each worth whatever your chain is. So, with a 15,000 chain and grabbing just ten coins you've got yourself 150,000 points. Do this for a couple minutes and you'll net yourself a lot of points. But can you survive the attack long enough?
Anyway, I'm not 100% sure on any of this, but that's what it looks like to me.
I knew there must be a drawback to those. Kind of Giga Wing Generations-ish, with its +0 medals. Thanks.MrMonkeyMan wrote: Well, for starters, the coins you leech off of enemies with your shot (the small coins) are barely worth any points at all, probably like 0.01 or 0.001 points per coin times your multiplier. Normal coins seem to be worth around 1 point each. I don't think they're worth quite as much outside of the bosses, but I haven't really looked in to it.
WolfMAME does save your score (I'm using v0.106) with the latest unofficial hsdat file, but it doesn't save the in-game configuration. As a result, loading the game again keeps the scores, but loses C AUTO ON. I have to keep saving a state before exiting to retain all recent scores (as it occasionally forgets to write the new scores to the hs file) and the C AUTO ON.The Coop wrote:I've noticed MAME doesn't seem to save high scores anymore. For this entire competition, every time I close MAME and come back, the scores are reset. It sucks quite a bit.
