STGT 2k6- Week #6 Guwange

ED-057 · Post by **ED-057** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:09 am

I'm guessing that for the players who know what they are doing the score sort of increases exponentially as the game progresses? As opposed to my case, where the amount of bullet spam allowed to accumulate on the screen increases exponentially instead?

ED-057 - Team Old Schoolers - 903,672 - Gensuke - 4 - 793

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:12 am

More like our case ED

Thanks for the insight Icarus. At least now I know what I'm looking at.

Also, I have to say the cat spider boss on stage three is the single coolest boss I've seen in a good while.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:15 am

GaijinPunch - FEKA USA - 5,932,072 - 6 - Gensuke

Boy, am I rusty. This took a shitload of effort. I keep fisf-fucking myself on stage 3. If not there, then surely on 4.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:29 am

Rob - Feka USA - 6'316'323 - 5 - Shishin - 8,348

Nemo · Post by **Nemo** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:50 am

Nemo - The Knights Of Rawk - 6,530,823 - 5,902 - 6 - Gensuke

Can we use scores we made 2 months ago? I don't feel like playing this.

howmuchkeefe · Post by **howmuchkeefe** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:07 pm

Keep the guage alive!

Kill smaller enemies with shot, kill bigger enemies with shiki!

Keep shiki on enemy shots when there are no enemies to kill on the screen at the time. Keep the guage alive!

Give boss some shiki abuse every once in a while. KEEP THE GUAGE ALIVE

God, I love the coin pumping thingy. So addictive. MOAR COINS!

mulletgeezer · Post by **mulletgeezer** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:17 pm

Yes, there's something lovely about the look and sound of shiny gold coins being streamed towards your character in this game. If only it had a coin dispenser so you could spend them afterwards this game would be perfect indeed.

Skyline · Post by **Skyline** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:56 pm

Skyline - California Dudez - 1,846,594 - 4 - Kosame - 2,204

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:11 pm

Icarus wrote:If you want to know your hiragana for your name entry, go here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiragana

For the score numerals, go here:
http://sp.cis.iwate-u.ac.jp/sp/lesson/j ... mbers.html

This is my name in hiragana, I'll be using it on my scoretable when I get round to posting screenshots:
いかるす = i-ka-ru-su
(Although for foreign words they should technically be using katakana, but nevermind.)

So what would subtitute the "Lay" sound in Laydock? I've checked the games' box, but it the title was written in Katana.

So far I have come up with the following:

スペル (Su-pe-ru) ? ドク (?-do-ku)

Is this anywhere near correct?

With multiple "alphabets" the Japanese language certainly is daunting to newcomers.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:15 pm

"Suupaa Reidokku"

Hiragana:

すうぱあれいどっく

Katakana:

スーパーレイドック

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:23 pm

CIT wrote:"Suupaa Reidokku"

Hiragana:

すうぱあれいどっく

Katakana:

スーパーレイドック

Thank you very much!

I would never, ever have been able to find this myself,especially with the romanization being so different.
And the Katana is indeed exactly as on the box!

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:09 pm

Super Laydock wrote:
CIT wrote:"Suupaa Reidokku"

Hiragana:

すうぱあれいどっく

Katakana:

スーパーレイドック
Thank you very much!

I would never, ever have been able to find this myself,especially with the romanization being so different.
And the Katana is indeed exactly as on the box!

In fact the レイ part is exactly as it is in Axelay

P.S. best of luck to the Old Schoolers with Guwange!

howmuchkeefe · Post by **howmuchkeefe** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:20 pm

P.S. best of luck to the Old Schoolers with Guwange!

Thanks!

Sorry you didn't get to play more, and I'm glad that you were able to contribute to team performance the week that you were able to play... an acheivement I hope to match this week.

Post by **Icarus** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:30 pm

Super Laydock wrote:I would never, ever have been able to find this myself,especially with the romanization being so different.
And the Katana is indeed exactly as on the box!

Japanese is a tricky language to get used to if you're a newcomer. There are a lot of easy points to remember to make the language learning a bit easier though (such as the "L" and "R" sounds being roughly the same - therefore "reidokku"). I actually really enjoy learning the language despite it being pretty challenging with kanji, katakana, hiragana and even romaji. Still a novice though. ^_-

Since the name entry only allows you four glyphs, you'll have to cut one of the hiragana out of your name to be able to fit it in.

Try this: れいどく

I'm probably going to be bored doing my coursework tonight, so I'll try and put up a layout chart with a translation of the name entry screen's hiragana tonight for everyone. Might as well get the practice in. ^_-

howmuchkeefe wrote:Keep the guage alive!
Kill smaller enemies with shot, kill bigger enemies with shiki!
Keep shiki on enemy shots when there are no enemies to kill on the screen at the time. Keep the guage alive!
Give boss some shiki abuse every once in a while. KEEP THE GUAGE ALIVE
God, I love the coin pumping thingy. So addictive. MOAR COINS!

This game is the single sexiest thing Cave have ever made. So much style and excellent design. The only Cave games I've seen lately that can match Guwange is Ibara and Mushi Futari.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:54 pm

I constantly feel like I'm on the verge of a breakthrough with this game...I can keep my chain going 90 percent of the time, but there's always something that seems to break it...one stray hit, getting the spirit onto something a second too late, I feel this close to semi-respectability on this thing. I managed a score above 2 mil earlier today but lost it like an idiot, guess I'll hafta do it again.

namagomi · Post by **namagomi** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:32 pm

namagomi - team germany - 879.084 - 4 - shishin

still have to figure out how the scoring works. I'm aiming for at least 1.500.000. it's a fun game. have only played it superficially until now.

Galdur · Post by **Galdur** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:38 pm

Galdur - Team Canada - 4,280,535 - Stage 4 - Shishin - 8416

Wow, this game is a lot harder than I remembered. Getting through that last stretch before the stage 3 boss while keeping your chain is a nightmare.

msm · Post by **msm** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:57 pm

msm - underdogs - 1'441'493 - 5 - Kosame - 521

that took ages to figgure out, hope it's right

thanks for the tips howmuchkeefe

the guage is the rotating skulls right?

do the red things increase your health?

and what do the pearl and angel type things do?

sorry for all the questions!
Thanks
msm

howmuchkeefe · Post by **howmuchkeefe** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:09 pm

the guage is the rotating skulls right?

You got it!

do the red things increase your health?

and what do the pearl and angel type things do?

Some are shot power ups, others refill the life guage/give you coins. The pearl might be an extra bomb? I don't remember off the top of my head. I read it in the strategy section, but I haven't memorized it. You might want to check it out:

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=84

The Coop was kind enough to bump it, it should be close to the top of the rather slow moving strategy section now.

Post by **Icarus** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:53 pm

More info on hiragana here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiragana

That was fun. Some of the glyphs are hard to work out.

1up · Post by **1up** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:05 pm

1up - Team Skandinavia - 468.743 - 3 - Devil Guy - MAME+

could someone check if my score is correct?

http://users.cybercity.dk/~dsl203926/score.JPG

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:13 pm

1up wrote:1up - Team Skandinavia - 468.743 - 3 - Devil Guy - MAME+

could someone check if my score is correct?

http://users.cybercity.dk/~dsl203926/score.JPG

+178 chain and the devil guy is Shishin.

Sword · Post by **Sword** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:38 pm

Sword - team Stranger - 642.263 - 3 - Kosame

msm · Post by **msm** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:58 pm

howmuchkeefe wrote:http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=84

The Coop was kind enough to bump it, it should be close to the top of the rather slow moving strategy section now.

Thanks again howmuchkeefe

i did look for that thread but failed miserably

Shocky · Post by **Shocky** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:18 pm

Shocky - Team Skandinavia - 593.012 - 3 - Kosame - 1153 (MAME+)

May I ask what you pro guys are scoring in stage 1? I'm getting a measily ~170k no matter how I try to chain. Also, how much can the chain be after stage 1, I'm getting some 436?

Post by **Icarus** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:31 pm

Shocky wrote:May I ask what you pro guys are scoring in stage 1? I'm getting a measily ~170k no matter how I try to chain. Also, how much can the chain be after stage 1, I'm getting some 436?

I'm getting on average 480k, with a chain of around 2,200. Highest chain I've ever had is 2,401 (just got it two minutes ago). Master players are breaking 3,200 for the stage1 chain.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:36 pm

Hmmm... not sure how good my score's going to be with this one.

The Coop - Team Old Schoolers - 1,831,736 - Stage 4 - Whoever the chick with the eight-tailed fox is - 3,292 (MAME)

Post by **nZero** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:37 pm

Icarus wrote:That was fun. Some of the glyphs are hard to work out.

Eh? Which were troublesome, if you don't mind my asking?

By the way, your first u should be a ra.

Interesting that the game is using the old layout (i - ro - ha) complete with depreciated wi and we. They were really trying to go for the feel!

Post by **Icarus** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:38 pm

nZero wrote:Eh? Which were troublesome, if you don't mind my asking?

By the way, your first u should be a ra.

Interesting that the game is using the old layout (i - ro - ha) complete with depreciated wi and we. They were really trying to go for the feel!

Frick! I knew I made mistakes! >.<
Are there any more?

And most of them were quite tricky, as this hiragana is quite stylised. The very complex ones (we, wi, na) took a while to recognise, and some of them have unusual strokes.

Post by **nZero** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:43 pm

Icarus wrote:Frick! I knew I made mistakes! >.<
Are there any more?

I don't see anything else, nice job and surely appreciated by many of the tourney members