STGT 2k6- Week #6 Guwange

Edge · Post by **Edge** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:49 am

Week #6: Guwange

-All default settings
-Autofire allowed
-1 credit only, offcourse

The playing week ends on 6th November, 11:59 AM (GMT).

Please post scores in this format:

Name - Team - Score - Stage - Character - Max Chain (Version)

(Character names from left to right: Shishin, Kosame, Gensuke)

Code: Select all

   Player             Team                 Score     Stage   Character   Chain

 1.Icarus             namakoteam         17'099'785    6     Kosame      15'266   (MAME)
 2.mulletgeezer       namakoteam         15'154'890    6     Kosame      14'836
 3.Rob                Feka USA           14'940'782    6     Shishin     12'707
 4.Nemo               Feka USA           11'994'494   ALL    Gensuke     12'852
 5.GaijinPunch        Feka USA           11'606'333    6     Gensuke     10'756
 6.freddiebamboo      namakoteam          9'221'684    6     Gensuke      9'870
 7.MrMonkeyMan        Team Cowboy         8'687'014    5     Shishin     12'875
 8.Randorama          Team Cowboy         8'100'322    6     Gensuke      9'950   (MAME)
 9.zakk               Team Cowboy         7'423'437    5     Shishin     10'895
10.Galdur             Team Canada         7'381'111    5     Shishin     12'120
11.Tvspelsfreak       Team Sweden         7'006'013    5     Kosame      11'633   (FBA)
12.Gion               Team Stranger       6'612'360    5     Shishin      6'285
13.The Coop           Team Old Schoolers  6'469'759    6     Kosame       7'558   (MAME)
14.Edge               Team Germany        6'439'318    5     Shishin     11'681   (MAME)
15.javel              Team Sweden         6'257'523    6     Shishin      6'210
16.Dennis             Team Stranger       5'377'618    6     Shishin      9'509
17.neocps2            Team Stranger       5'290'690    5     Shishin          ?
18.Neverland          Bargiggia Team      5'226'754    5     Shishin      8'736   (PCB)
19.DJ Incompetent     Drink & Fly         3'963'605    5     Gensuke      4'556   (MAME)
20.BulletMagnet       Team Loser          3'823'731    ?     Gensuke      7'196
21.DarkWolf7          Feka USA            3'782'547    5     Gensuke      6'193   (MAME)
22.Acid King          Drink & Fly         3'472'019    5     Shishin      5'834   (MAME)
23.Davey              Super Buffet S.T.   3'394'996    5     Kosame       3'884   (MAME)
24.howmuchkeefe       Team Old Schoolers  3'348'545    5     Gensuke      4'435
25.coffejoerx         Team Old Schoolers  3'179'285    5     Gensuke      5'773   (MAME)
26.Smraedis           namakoteam          3'065'231    5     Shishin      5'191
27.PlasmaBlooD        Team Germany        3'034'227    4     Gensuke      5'937
28.msm                Underdogs           2'681'747    5     Kosame       4'198   (MAME)
29.malcolm            Drink & Fly         2'609'114    5     Gensuke      2'174   (MAME)
30.NRS                Team Loser          2'368'200    6     Kosame       1'537   (MAME)
31.landshark          Super Buffet S.T.   2'113'631    4     Kosame       2'234
32.Sword              Team Stranger       2'061'219    4     Kosame       4'103
33.Kiken              Drink & Fly         2'051'401    4     Shishin      2'895
34.namagomi           Team Germany        1'988'997    5     Gensuke      2'844   (MAME)
35.Skyline            California Dudez    1'846'594    4     Kosame       2'204
36.Cannibal           Bargiggia Team      1'833'659    4     Shishin      3'903   (MAME)
37.ED-057             Team Old Schoolers  1'726'461    4     Gensuke      2'850   (MAME)
38.DEL                namakoteam          1'703'026    5     Kosame       1'125
39.Vincere            Team Stranger       1'626'192    4     Kosame       2'164   (MAME)
40.sven666            Team Sweden         1'620'500    3     Gensuke          ?
41.Xargon             Team Skandinavia    1'510'810    4     Gensuke          ?
42.shiftace           Team Loser          1'372'447    4     Kosame       2'250   (MAME)
43.Shocky             Team Skandinavia    1'164'432    4     Shishin      2'279   (MAME)
44.Herr Schatten      Team Old Schoolers  1'130'586    4     Gensuke      1'528
45.SFKhoa             Team Canada         1'038'145    4     Shishin        419   (MAME)
46.Ghegs              Team Skandinavia      963'743    4     Kosame         389   (MAME)
47.Twiddle            Team Loser            691'251    3     Shishin        673   (MAME)
48.dexstell           Bargiggia Team        628'118    3     Shishin      1'101
49.Limbrooke          Team Canada           508'927    3     Shishin        439
50.1up                Team Skandinavia      468'743    3     Shishin        178   (MAME)
51.Leeram             Underdogs             23X'XXX    3     Gensuke          ?   (MAME)

Only scores that are made during this week are accepted, no old highscores.

zakk · Post by **zakk** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:07 am

Can someone post the quick rundown on how to read the score? I can sorta muddle through it but a quick guide by someone who knows what the fuck would be helpful.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:15 am

Check SAM's post in this thread...IIRC you really only need to know the symbols for 0-9.

Just to check, though, I'll post my first score...

If I translated everything right, I believe it should turn out something like...

BulletMagnet - Team Loser - 1,391,377 - Stage 4 - Gensuke

If I got it wrong, please let me know.

Anyways, not too bad for having not played in a bit...held my chain up till just before the stage 2 boss, then got it back to about 1000 in stage 3 before losing it again...from there all heck broke loose, as usual. Hopefully will have a decent amount of time to devote to this, as it's one of my favorites.

Post by **Icarus** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:21 am

If you want to know your hiragana for your name entry, go here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiragana

For the score numerals, go here:
http://sp.cis.iwate-u.ac.jp/sp/lesson/j ... mbers.html

This is my name in hiragana, I'll be using it on my scoretable when I get round to posting screenshots:
いかるす = i-ka-ru-su
(Although for foreign words they should technically be using katakana, but nevermind.)

I doubt Edge will want to bother listing the chain count for the tournament table, but in your case BM, its 1914.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:25 am

Icarus wrote:I doubt Edge will want to bother listing the chain count for the tournament table, but in your case BM, its 1914.

Cool, I think I translated it correctly then.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:28 am

zakk wrote:Can someone post the quick rundown on how to read the score? I can sorta muddle through it but a quick guide by someone who knows what the fuck would be helpful.

Each rank is seperated by color (first place being on the far right), and has three columns each, written vertically. The one on the far left, is the score. The one in the middle is stage, and just under it coin (max chain) and the third one (on the right) is your characters name. There's something else under the name but I'm not sure what it means.

Anyways, the kanji can be found on this chart, written from top to bottom.

The kicker is the 10,000 marker, but you really don't need it. It's the one that looks like this: 万, and is in silver, while the other numbers are in gold.

Example. BM's score is:
1,391,377 Stage 4, max chain of 1914

EDIT: I'm slow.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:32 am

Rob - Feka USA - 4,612,308 - Stage 4 - Shishin

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:32 am

Gonna throw this out there, as this is just a good a place as any. Can someone confirm the differences in characters? From what I know:

Gensuke: Strongest Shikigami
Shishin: The bizarre range
Kosame: Uh... stronger shot?

Speeds all seem to be the same. I've not paid attention to Shikigami speed, which might be an issue.

Post by **Icarus** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:45 am

GaijinPunch wrote:Gonna throw this out there, as this is just a good a place as any. Can someone confirm the differences in characters? From what I know:

Gensuke: Strongest Shikigami
Shishin: The bizarre range
Kosame: Uh... stronger shot?

Speeds all seem to be the same. I've not paid attention to Shikigami speed, which might be an issue.

Gensuke - strong semi-piercing Shot, slowest speed Shikigami with large clustered bombs, average movement speed

Shishin - variable sweeping Shot, average speed Shikigami with small clustered bombs, slowest movement speed

Kosame - weakest narrow rapid Shot, fastest Shikigami with small forward trail bombs, fastest movement speed

The difference in movement speed for both character and Shikigami isn't too great, but it is noticeable if you are used to a particular character and then make the switch. The majority of players use Kosame for her movement and Shiki speed, and her Shot is weak, allowing prolonged milking. Shishin holds a chain better due to the variable Shot movement which can catch more enemies in one sweep, while Gensuke can obliterate enemies and bosses.

I think all Shikigami strengths are the same. If not, then it would probably go in the order from weakest to strongest: Kosame, Gensuke, Shishin.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:47 am

I blow through the bad guys w/ Gensuke. I always attributed it to the shikigami... I guess it could've been the shot, but doesn't seem to make sense as I don't do a lot of milking.

landshark · Post by **landshark** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:10 am

Landshark - Super Buffet S.T. - 0 - 0 - Can't Read It

Edge · Post by **Edge** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:24 am

If you can't read your score, simply post a snapshot. But reading the kanji isn't as difficult as it seems at first. Actually you just have to learn the numbers 1-9. The kanji for the 10'000 mark is there by default.

And one more place to see the kanjis for the numbers: Numerical Kanjis

@Icarus:
If you guys want to, I can also add the chain counter.

Post by **Icarus** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:46 am

Edge wrote:@Icarus:
If you guys want to, I can also add the chain counter.

It's up to you Edge, it's your scoretable.
namakoteam will probably be listing all necessary data when we post our scores up.

javel · Post by **javel** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:48 am

Javel - Team Sweden - 6,257,523 - Stage 6 - Chain: 6,210 - Shishin

Last Boss. Final pattern. Those damn balls will go straight at you and hit you and there´s not a thing you can do about it.

I´ve yet to get through that pattern on my _2nd_ credit.

My least favourite Cave game. Anyways, I have absolutely no time to play this week, maybe I can squeeze in some time with it on Sunday. Hopefully my team mates will do better.

howmuchkeefe · Post by **howmuchkeefe** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:55 am

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/5358/guwa0004ta9.jpg

howmuchkeefe - Team Old Schoolers - 2,304,092 - Stage 5 - Chain: 2,724 - Gensuke

Stage five killed me in less than ten seconds.

Post by **Icarus** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:00 am

Starting to find my old rhythm again, thankfully.

Icarus - namakoteam - 8,490,157 - Stage 5 - Kosame - 11,739 - [WolfMAME]

Chainbreak at the stage4 worm, mistiming the link. Flapped through the rest of the game, ending the run at the stage5 boss, first form.
This is my name in hiragana again, for reference.
いかるす = i-ka-ru-su

Replay verified.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:06 am

Wow, I'm so fucking comically bad at this since I've last played.

I'm not sure if I'm going to have an entry this week, being the final week of midterms and whatnot.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:16 am

javel wrote: Last Boss. Final pattern. Those damn balls will go straight at you and hit you and there´s not a thing you can do about it. I´ve yet to get through that pattern on my _2nd_ credit.

Yeah, this is hard in a way that lessens the fun. There's no way I will clear that in a week. How did DOJ (1st round even) ever get a reputation for being really hard.

DarkWolf7 · Post by **DarkWolf7** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:29 am

If you have trouble reading your score and are using MAME, you can set a watchpoint at $2024A4 to retrieve in arabic numerals. This value persists after a game over until a new game is started, so turning it on after your game is over is fine. Score is stored as an 8-digit BCD value (hence, 32 bits).

Here is the set-up in the MAME cheat dialog:

http://h1.ripway.com/kingshriek/guwange_m.PNG

BBH · Post by **BBH** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:43 am

Rob wrote:
javel wrote: Last Boss. Final pattern. Those damn balls will go straight at you and hit you and there´s not a thing you can do about it. I´ve yet to get through that pattern on my _2nd_ credit.
Yeah, this is hard in a way that lessens the fun. There's no way I will clear that in a week. How did DOJ (1st round even) ever get a reputation for being really hard.

I've finished Guwange and can only get to 1-4 on DOJ on a lucky day. Haha.

Then again, I logged way more time on Guwange because I thought it was actually fun.

MrMonkeyMan · Post by **MrMonkeyMan** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:48 am

MrMonkeyMan - Team Cowboy - 8,687,014 - Stage 5 - Shishin - 12,875

Yay, it's not Progear!

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:03 am

I have no fucking clue how to read this. Sure, there are pages that tell you what the symbols mean, but what about how to read them?

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:11 am

Downwards. You can see the score in-game, so see how that matches up with the chart.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:32 am

Am I reading this right?

936522, with a chain of 600?

Edge · Post by **Edge** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:35 am

You have to read it from the top to the bottom. And only the yellow kanjis do matter. So for that snapshot it would be:

Score: 1'139'012
Max Chain: 1138

Edge - Team Germany - 1'139'012 - Gensuke - 4 - 1138

EDIT:
Oh, you figured it out already. I think you misplaced the 6s on your post are actually 7s.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:36 am

The Coop:

The 6s are 7s. 6s are star-like.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:54 am

Ah. Gotcha. Thanks for the assist.

Edge- What are the rest of the areas? I know where your initials go, but what do the rest of the sections on your score mean? I'm guessing the top center is the name of your character, but what about the top right and bottom right areas?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:23 am

Rob wrote:There's no way I will clear that in a week. How did DOJ (1st round even) ever get a reputation for being really hard.

It's not as bad as it looks. I broke this out, played it for like a week (maybe a bit more) after not having touched it in years and got a 1CC. It's very doable. I sucked ass at it when I first put it away... made it to stage 4, maybe.

I had to use my bombs quite liberally on stage 6 though. The key is to find the food items.... the one on stage 6 is like an extra credit!

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:27 am

The Coop wrote: Edge- What are the rest of the areas? I know where your initials go, but what do the rest of the sections on your score mean? I'm guessing the top center is the name of your character, but what about the top right and bottom right areas?

Top center is the stage you reached, not the name of the character. Top right is the ranking (1st, 2nd, or 3rd) on the hi score chart, under that is the name you entered followed by the suffix '-dono' (honorific name suffix somewhat analogous to "Mr./Miss"), under that it says "ikkin", and I'm not sure what that's for. Means "one gold" literally. Might refer to you getting the score on one credit? The "gold" here could be referring to the coins you pop in the cab to play a credit.

Post by **Icarus** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:30 am

The Coop wrote:Ah. Gotcha. Thanks for the assist.

Edge- What are the rest of the areas? I know where your initials go, but what do the rest of the sections on your score mean? I'm guessing the top center is the name of your character, but what about the top right and bottom right areas?

Here's a layout chart:

Everything is read from top to bottom.

You can always tell which character was used by the silhouette in the background of the score display. Blue for Shishin, Red for Kosame, and Yellow/Orange for Gensuke.